Winx Club/Headscratchers

• How is Icy the most powerful witch? Her ice cannot even kill people, yet her sisters control storms (which should include ice by default) and darkness itself!
  • Well Icy is the most evil one out of the three of them. She's very hateful and cruel just for fun, and I'd assume that hatred weighs in on a witch's strength. Also, Icy is charismatic so I'd assume that also contributes to a witch's strength. And actually, her ice *can* kill people, it's just that we usually see Stella unfreezing the frozen person or Bloom unfreezing herself before the coldness of the ice would actually suck the life out of the frozen person.
    • And another reason why her ice can't kill people: The Moral Guardians wouldn't allow it. It's a kid's show.
  • I agree with the first post. I didn't see how ice is more powerful than darkness. Or heck, storms for that matter! Who knows though. Then again, what if Icy isn't as powerful as she supposedly makes herself out to be? I always thought she just convinced her sisters that she's the strongest, and they believed her.
• Why isn't Mirta part of the Winx?
  • Cute Pumpkin girl? Maybe she has Powers like Flora and they got Flora.
  • Her power was to create illusions out of emotions, I think. But that would be to similar to Nabu's.
  • Nabu is dead, and Stella and Bloom have similar powers.
  • He wasn't dead yet when the Winx last encountered her, and they didn't have the time to send for her before the final battle with the Wizards.
  • I don't understand that either. What really bugs me though is that she didn't stay a witch, and instead becomes a fairy.
    • Dark Is Evil, apparently. Note that she CAN still use her witch powers.
• Why didn't Daphne told Bloom that she has the dragon fire all along and her Heroic BSOD is blocking her from using it?
  • I think it is because she decided to bring Bloom journeys to Cloud Tower. When she tells her to go to a river and let all her worries go away, that when Bloom gets her powers back.
• Why did the Trix lose Bloom's dragon fire in the virtual reality chamber?
  • My theory is that in a virtual reality, they can't get her powers there. So that's when they get Bloom's powers in the real world.
  • There's actually enough information in the episode itself, but you have to look closely (more than your average target viewer might be inclined to), and it just raises further questions. Incidentally, this issue doesn't happen in the original, as the whole point of their exercise was to show that Bloom has the Dragonfire.
  • It's just a case of a Dub-Induced Plot Hole. In the Rai version the witches are actually just making sure Bloom possess the Dragon's Flame, so as not make the same mistake as they did with Stella's Ring. The 4kids ending was just pieced together from old episodes.
• If Roxy is born on Earth, how did she got her powers?
  • She's half-human, half-fairy by her human father and fairy mother, Morgana.
• How did Morgana put her grudge on humans come to an end?
  • It is Roxy's pleas that really cause her to end her war. Later it is revealed that she is Roxy's mother. That explains that she answers her pleas and the fact that if Morgana destroys humanity, she's going to destroy the people she loves: Roxy and her husband, Klaus.
• How come Roxy and her father, Klaus, forgot about Morgana?
  • After Morgana gets captured by the Wizards of the Black Circle when Roxy is a little kid, they put up a spell to make Roxy and her father forget about her existence.
    • Why did they do that in the first place?
      • This Troper thought it was so Roxy wouldn't realize she's a fairy, and possibly find a way to SOS to the Magical Dimension for help to save her mother and the other Earth fairies.
      • It was said that it was her mother that made them forget, not the Wizards... But why would she have wanted them to forget at all? Perhaps she could've put some sort of protection spell on them that might have broken when she was old enough to defend herself at least... Why in blazes wouldn't they want help? So many plotholes...
• Does Mitzi know about Bloom and her friend being fairies when she sees them in Believix form?
• Why can't Roxy use other wings on Believix form?
  • My guess is that she is inexperienced.
  • While the guesses below were good, I always thought that she just got an incomplete Believix, just as Bloom got an incomplete Enchantix on Pyros. She was unable to use her other wings because she took a shortcut.
    • Oh, wait, Bloom says on the Amazon episode that they can't let Roxy go with them as she doesn't have Belivix.
    • Actually, Bloom says Roxy can't come along because she doesn't have Believix POWERS. That could mean she has Believix, but not powers associated with Believix.
  • She isn't really a Believix. She's a normal fairy. I don't even think that Believix are that common a kind of fairies, since last season was said that the Enchantix was the highest stage a fairy could achieve. True, at the time they probably didn't think about it, but I always thoought that the Believix was a sort of "secret class", or something. notice how her wings are totally different from any of the Believix girls- they all have the same theme playing because either they forgot about the first season's, or because she isn't a Winx.
  • Roxy is a Winx now, but she was never a Believix fairy. They just made her look like a Believix fairy to help her blend in, design-wise, with the other Winx a little more. Otherwise, she'd look too out of place.
    • Confirmation, please?
    • Or perhaps, it's not really her Believix, but her first transformation. She has big wings due to her being the fairy of animals and they are just based off of butterfly wings.
• Where did the Winx Club go in the end of season 4?
  • Back to Magix and probably back to Alfea.
• Why does Riven have a Union Jack wifebeater? He's from another planet - is there an alien Britain out there somewhere?
  • Maybe it's just a fashion statement? After all, fairies from Earth did exist prior to whatever happened in the fourth season, so it's not that huge a leap to think that one liked the pattern to bring some clothing from his/her home planet. Alternatively, he may have bought it on Earth- as this troper remembers seeing it only in the Fourth Season, correct me if wrong.
    • Nope, he was wearing it as early as S1.
• Why didn't Bloom try to use her healing powers to save Nabu?
  • maybe because she knew that about 3 episodes later he would be walking around again?
• And that (previous sentence) is my Just Bugs Me ; why the HECK is a DEAD guy walking around again? (Without Bloom/other super healing power actively bringing him back...) And no, it ain't even a glitch in the animation, because he returns in the FREAKING MOVIE!
  • I still believe his appearance in the last episode of season 4 was an animation error, although we still need an explaintion about his appearance in the second movie.
    • It's not confirmed, but popular opinion is that Magical Adventure is an alternate to Season 4. Season 4 depicts what would happen if Bloom got on with her life after finding her family; Magical Adventure is about if she instead tried to live a new life as a princess. This also explains why Roxy isn't at Alfea. However, it brings up the issue of how they achieved Believix...
• What the hell are Layla's Powers? She's the fairy of water? Courage? Plastic? Condoms? Really, her attacks aren't that clear a theme to figure out (to me anyway).
  • She's the fairy of fluids.
  • Apparently, she controls a substance called Morphix. It is virtually shiny, pink clay.
• How did the Trix get out of the Realix realm?
  • How did the Trix get INTO the Realix realm in first place?
  • Forget that plothole, I'm still wondering how they went from Megatrix to just regular Trix. And losing their Gloomix to boot.
  • My guess is the Winx or Faragonda or Griffen informed that guy squad that the Trix were in the Realix realm, so the guy squad came, took them, turned them back into individual witches again, took and destroyed their Gloomixes, and then froze the witches. That's how they are the first time we see them in season 3 when the guy squad drops them in the Omega Dimension.
• Why does the English dub of the movie (and a few dubs derived from it) have scenes cut out? The dubbers don't have the same excuse as 4Kids of having to fit the show in a US timeslot...
• What did Morgana mean when she said she would look after Nabu until he wakes up?
  • It could mean that Nabu put himself in a coma. If he's in a coma instead of dead, then it's possible for him to wake up.
• Why is Nebula Driven to Suicide after defeating the Fairy Hunters?
  • Because she feels guilty about everything she's done and thinks she's just as bad as them.
• Red Fountain is a military academy, which trains its students in the arts of war. Even if most of them are just there for ceremonial reasons, the fact that it still exists suggests that at least one planet which sends students to Magix must have an army of fully trained, possibly experienced soldiers. Why, then, at the end of S1, didn't anyone think to call in this military force, instead entrusting the defense of Alféa to a force of inexperienced, partially-trained teenagers? Even though the teens were capable of repelling the invasion, it just makes sense to have as many fighters as possible to maximize the probability of victory.
  • If this troper recalls properly, it was stated very early on in the war that communication had been cut off. Most of the Magical Dimension probably didn't even KNOW there was a war until after it was won.
  • But surely if ALL communication was cut off, relatives and friends would think that something was very wrong there, right? If you couldn't reach your daughter/son no matter what you did, surely you'd begin to get worried and try to go and check on them...
  • Heraklyon had probably noticed: in her second appearance in S1, Diaspro tries and pull a Gunship Rescue to save Sky (and only Sky: she told him to let the plebeians die for him because he was a prince and would have ruled one day), and uses a vehicle identical, both in model and markings, to the one used by the Heraklyon Royal Guard to bring him back home in the first movie. Sadly, as shown in S2, Heraklyon has a fair share of political problems (a minor local lord who was known to have made attempts on Sky's life was still around and ruling his domain years later, free to openly kidnap Diaspro and demanding enough money to bankrupt the entire planet as ransom. And the king of the planet flat-out admitted that if he didn't pay Diaspro's parents would have him deposed), and the inability to coordinate a hunt for Valtor in S3 hints at a lack of cooperation ability between the various kingdoms. These problems (and possibly treaties) would have slowed down the launch of a counteroffensive. Interestingly, in the last episodes of the season the Trix seemed to be in a hurry, so maybe military forces were coming to the rescue...
• In season 3's episode 21, when Layla shows the others that Nabu (who was at the time using the fake name Ophir) had stowed away on their ship, Sky exclaims: "Him again?" But Sky and the other specialists hadn't even met Nabu at that point, so how could Sky possibly recognize him?
  • Bloom probably told him about their first encounter.
• When exactly does the second movie take place? Based on what we know about the movie so far, and the events of season 4, I can't really figure it out...
  • Guess that after Season 4, since they have the Believix.
  • Yes, I was thinking that too, but if that's the case, then where is Roxy? And why is Nabu alive?
    • Same reason he's alive at the end of the 4th season? One can see him TWICE during episode 26 of that season (outside of the flashbacks)
  • I think the second movie takes place after the first six girls achieve Believix, but before Roxy gains hers.
    • And then why couldn't the girls stay in their own apartment when they were on Earth? And why did they just ditch Roxy to go home and complain about how boring princess life is?
  • It's not confirmed, but popular opinion is that Magical Adventure is an alternate to Season 4. Season 4 depicts what would happen if Bloom got on with her life after finding her family; Magical Adventure is about if she instead tried to live a new life as a princess. But then where does Believix come from... hmmmm.
• How old is Morgana?
• Was it really necessary to introduce the Believix transformation? I mean, those extra sets of wings are cool and all that, but Enchantix was like supposed to be the final fairy form. And Bloom's Enchantix wasn't even complete until after the events of the first movie, so you'd think she'd be happy that she had managed to gain her full Enchantix even though it was thought to be impossible, but no, once she learns there's another transformation level she immediately decides that she would rather be a Believix fairy...
  • Believix is supposedly only meant for Earth and it's highly unlikely that any fairies outside of the Winx Club could achieve it.
    • Believix is not only achievable on Earth, it can be earnt anywhere by getting people to believe in magic. Earth is simply one of the few places where there are people who don't believe in magic.
  • My guess is that Enchantix is the standard final level that all fairies can attain. Other subsquent transformations however, require certain power types, spells or are only earnable within certain realms...
• In the first movie, Nabu only has a cameo appearance at the end. So, where was he for most of the movie? Why didn't he come along on the mission?
• So, since the re-modeled Red Fountain is floating in mid-air, how exactly does visitors get up there?
  • Elevator, I assume? I think it was once shown that the school has an elevator, but I can't remember.
  • I always thought that it was some form of teleporters.
• How come no one in Cloud Tower, including the teachers, noticed that Mirta was missing after she was turned into a pumpkin? I mean, come on. Do they even keep track of their own students? I mean sure, some of them are jerkass withches, but they must have noticed something weird. I mean usually, teachers notice if a student hasn't come to classes, so why didn't they just make a search?
  • Well, the witches are allowed to cause trouble, but get in trouble if they're caught. Perhaps they thought Mirta was ditching school and thought nothing of it, since, if she really had been, she'd only get in trouble if she was caught doing so. Or it might be that since Mirta was a nice witch, they figured she somehow transferred to Alfea.
• Why did Mirta go from being a witch to turning into a fairy? It almost seems to have some Unfortunate Implications, since it gives you the feeling that in order to be good, you can't be a witch (and I believe this series has witches as a race/species, not just a magical group that's evil). I always thought her being the one witch-student at Alfea would make for a nice Dark Is Not Evil Aesop. I mean, why not, right?
  • It may have been because she transferred to Alfea and was learning fairy magic instead of witchcraft. She wouldn't have been able to perform fairy magic if she remained a witch. Also, the aesop is not completely ruined. They just did the opposite one. Diaspro is a fairy, but is an antagonist, which would say Light Is Not Good.
  • Mirta also probably thought that she would fit in better at Alfea.
  • Word of God says that witch or fairy is a choice- all girls in the magic dimension are the same species, they each of base magic, and they choose what they want to use it for. Besides the wings, they're effectively the same, but use different sorts of magic.
• Pixie Village is located on the outskirts of Alfea or somewhere near, right? Layla in Season 2 is shown to have snuck out of the royal palace as a child to go visit the pixies. Problem? She lives in The Realm Of Tides/Andros, which is a whole other dimension. Tell me, how does a little girl manage to teleport herself between one realm and back so frequently with no help at all?
  • I believe it was stated in one episode that the pixies moved their village for safety after Darkar kidnapped them. Also, in the case of teleportation, Layla appears to be about 12 in her flashbacks. Not really that little.
• The media in Gardenia has been covering the news of the fact that magic exists since the Winx revealed themselves. Has the show given evidence to show that the rest of the world knows as well?
• Even after the Wizards of the Black Circle are defeated, do Mitzi, Sally and Dharma still have the powers they were given?
  • No. They already lost their powers in the same episode the got them.
• Why in the world did they butcher the Trix and suddenly convolute a plot to bring Darkar in? Like Valtor, we thought he would be pretty cool, but he turned out to be an annoying and stereotypical bad guy, bringing nothing new to the table other than, "look! I'm evil!" which gets old--FAST. Darkar's tenure with the Trix ended with them half-way decent and locked up in the Light Haven (where the only cool thing about them was their outfits--personally how Darcy and Stormy looked) and the third season presented them as--less than characters we can fear, more like jokes. The movie remedied this a lot, but hopefully they can keep this continuity-wise and not turn them back. The Trix pretty much were the reason why I watched the show besides most of the Cloud Tower witches, and if they're back to jokes, it's pretty much all over--it tells me that the studios dubbing the show don't give a damn about characterization in favor of lame villains and crappy gags.
  • Some people actually consider Valtor a much better villain than Darkar. As for your question, it could be to make the Trix seem even more evil by teaming up with a villain that is even more evil than themselves. Just think about it for a second: The Trix have already done some things that border on attempted murder. If they team up with someone who would have no problem committing genocide...well, what does that say? Yeah.
  • But it felt like such a freaking waste of plot, though. And considering Valtor was--no offense to the fans who liked him--a long-haired Barney Stinson-esque expy with powers that turned out to be an ugly demon in the end, it didn't give me too much of a good feeling when I heard the previously-worked-alone Trix were working with him.
    • What exactly makes you compare Barney Stinson and Valtor? Is there a latent love of suits in the more villainous of the two?
    • Pretty much, yes. Barney Stinson, if he were animated and had longer hair + a fancier suit.
• Why don't we ever see Faragonda or Griselda transform when they have to fight? Have they achieved some sort of state where they can use their full power without transforming or something?
  • That actually could be plausible. Plus, considering how fairy outfits generally look (small tops, mini-skirts/shorts/dresses), that might be a good thing.
• The new Nickelodeon voices are starting to bug me for a reason other than simply being The Other Darrin. Most of the new voices look like they were hired simply because they resemble the Winx, not because they have any talent or experience voice acting. To a lesser extent, it also seems like Nickelodeon is taking advantage of the show to promote their kid actors. Matt Shively as Prince Sky, Arianna Grande as Princess Diasporo, and Elizabeth Gilles as Daphne are huge examples of What the Hell, Casting Agency?. I am not directly trying to attack the actual actors hired; I mean that both of these tactics are disrespectful to professional voice actors, and to the original show.
  • I'm slowly starting to agree with you. Bloom, Faragonda, Mirta, and the other voices excepting Stella's all sound either too old or too young and just do not match the character. The minute I heard Mirta's voice in the dub, I immediately changed the channel.
  • Personally, I think the voices are just a matter of getting used to. When I watched the first special, I wanted to grate my ears, but now, after watching the third, the voices seem tolerable to me.
• So... If there were Earth Fairies on Earth, why aren't there any Earth Witches?
• When the Fairy Hunters hunted and imprisoned all the Earth fairies, why the hell did none of the fairies from other worlds come to Earth to help? Or why did none of the Earth fairies think to ask for help?
• What is Chimera's power source anyway?
• Bloom is supposed to be 16 in season one, right? Supposedly, the show is set in America and not Italy. Does this mean Bloom went to Alfea without finishing high school? If that's the case, why is it never brought up? I get that Stella was likely not going to stick around for two years, but it seems odd to me that Bloom's parents have no qualms about allowing her to attend a college when she hasn't even graduated high school yet.
  • Perhaps a case of Did Not Do the Research?
• So, in the first movie, the Ancient Witches thought that Bloom was dead, since they didn't see Daphne sending her to Earth. However, during S3, Bloom talks with them and says that she's the princess of Domino. As you can see, this does not compute.
  • No offense, but this Troper doesn't see how that 'does not compute'. How is it relevant for the Witches to know Bloom's alive or not for her to introduce herself as a Princess of Domino?
  • Because if Bloom reveals herself as being the princess of Domino, that would mean she's alive. In other words, that the witches didn't kill everyone of Domino. Yet, in the movie, they thought she was dead. So they forgot there was one survivor left?
    • Ah, that way... You're right. That does not compute. Like some of the other stuff at times.
• What's Morgana's power source?