Old Indonesia derby
Indonesia Super Big Match or Old Indonesia Derby (commonly known as Indonesian El Superclásico or Duel Super Klasik Indonesia) is the name given in football to any match between fierce rivals Persija Jakarta and Persib Bandung. The rivalry between the both teams begins since 1933 at that time Persija Jakarta and Persib Bandung competed to become champions in 1933 Perserikatan and Persija came out as champions while Persib was runner-up. But, the rivalry between the two teams began to heat up since the 2000s. with the hostility of supporters, and has spread both sides as a prestigious match in Indonesian Football.
Locale | Indonesia |
---|---|
Teams | Persija Jakarta Persib Bandung |
First meeting | 1933 |
Latest meeting | Persib Bandung 2–0 Persija Jakarta 28 October 2019 2019 Liga 1 |
Next meeting | TBD 2020 Liga 1 |
Stadiums | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium (Persija Jakarta) Si Jalak Harupat Stadium (Persib Bandung) |
Statistics | |
Meetings total | 101 (Incomplete) |
Most player appearances | Ismed Sofyan (18) (Incomplete) |
Top scorer | Bambang Pamungkas (9) |
All-time series | Persija Jakarta: 33 Draw: 36 Persib Bandung: 32 (Incomplete) |
Largest victory | Persib Bandung 7–0 Persija Jakarta 10 August 1976 1976 Yusuf Cup |
Results
Perserikatan era
Competition | Date | Game | Result | Venue | City |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1949 | Persib - Persija | 2–1 | |||
1951 Perserikatan | 07 October 1951 | Persija - Persib | 7–2 | Ikada Stadium | Central Jakarta |
18 November 1951 | Persib - Persija | 3–1 | Bandung | ||
1952 Perserikatan | 30 October 1952 | Persija - Persib | 2–1 | Jakarta | |
29 December 1952 | Persija - Persib | 0–0 | Surabaya | ||
1953–54 Perserikatan | 30 October 1954 | Persija - Persib | 4–2 | Sukabumi | |
1956–57 Perserikatan | 21 July 1957 | Persib - Persija | 3–3 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
Exhibition game | 08 September 1957 | Persib - Persija | TBD | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
1957–59 Perserikatan | 09 August 1959 | Persib - Persija | 3–1 | Ikada Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1959–61 Perserikatan | 01 July 1961 | Persib - Persija | 3–1 | Semarang | |
1964 Perserikatan | 06 August 1964 | Persija - Persib | 3–1 | Jakarta | |
1964–65 Perserikatan | Persija - Persib | TBD | |||
14 August 1965 | Persib - Persija | 2–1 | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta | |
1965–66 Perserikatan | Persija - Persib | TBD | |||
1966–67 Perserikatan | Persija - Persib | TBD | |||
1969–71 Perserikatan | Persija - Persib | TBD | |||
1972 Marah Halim Cup | Persija - Persib | 1-0 | Teladan Stadium | Medan | |
1973 Persib Anniversary Cup | 29 March 1973 | Persija - Persib | 1-0 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
1973 Marah Halim Cup | 20 April 1973 | Persija - Persib | 0-0 | Teladan Stadium | Medan |
1971-73 Perserikatan | 27 November 1973 | Persija - Persib | 2-0 | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1974 Yusuf Cup | 20 July 1974 | Persib - Persija | 3-0 | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1976 Yusuf Cup | 02 August 1976 | Persib - Persija | 0-0 | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1976 Yusuf Cup | 10 August 1976 | Persib - Persija | 2-0 (7-0) (awarded) | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1977 Bang Ali Cup | 17 June 1977 | Persib - Persija | 2-2 | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1977 Yusuf Cup | 30 November 1977 | Persija - Persib | 1-0 | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1978 Siliwangi Cup | Persija - Persib | 2-1 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | |
1975-78 Perserikatan | 24 January 1978 | Persija - Persib | 3-0 | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1978 Surya Cup | 21 May 1978 | Persija - Persib | 1-1 | Gelora 10 November Stadium | Surabaya |
1978 Surya Cup | 30 May 1978 | Persib - Persija | 1-0 | Gelora 10 November Stadium | Surabaya |
1978 Yusuf Cup | 17 September 1978 | Persija - Persib | 0-0 | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1978 Yusuf Cup | 21 September 1978 | Persib - Persija | 1-0 | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1979 Bandung Urang Cup | 12 April 1979 | Persija - Persib | 0-4 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
1979 Yusuf Cup | 14 September 1979 | Persib - Persija | 1-0 | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1980 PSSI Anniversary Cup | 17 April 1980 | Persija - Persib | 2-1 | Gelora Bung Karno Main Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1980 Yusuf Cup | 27 October 1980 | Persib - Persija | 1-0 | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1983 Perserikatan | 26 September 1983 | Persib - Persija | 0-0 | Imam Bonjol Stadium | Padang |
1983 Perserikatan | 31 October 1983 | Persija - Persib | 0-0 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
1984 Yusuf Cup | 04 May 1984 | Persib - Persija | 1-0 | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar |
1985 Perserikatan | 16 January 1985 | Persib - Persija | 3-0 | Lampineung Stadium | Banda Aceh |
1985 Perserikatan | 06 February 1985 | Persib - Persija | 4-0 | Menteng Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1986 Perserikatan | 30 January 1986 | Persija - Persib | 2-2 | Teladan Stadium | Medan |
1986 Perserikatan | 14 February 1986 | Persib - Persija | 0-0 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
1986 Perserikatan | 27 February 1986 | Persija - Persib | 3-2 | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1986-87 Perserikatan | 16 November 1986 | Persib - Persija | 0-1 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
1986-87 Perserikatan | 21 December 1986 | Persija - Persib | 0-1 | Menteng Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1986-87 Perserikatan | 05 March 1987 | Persija - Persib | 0-0 | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1987-88 Perserikatan | 15 November 1987 | Persib - Persija | 0-1 | Bandung | |
1987-88 Perserikatan | 31 January 1988 | Persija - Persib | 3-3 | Menteng Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1987-88 Perserikatan | 19 March 1987 | Persib - Persija | 1-1 | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1989 Siliwangi Cup | Persib - Persija | 0-1 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | |
1989 Siliwangi Cup | Persib - Persija | 2-0 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | |
1989-90 Perserikatan | Persib - Persija | 0-0 | Bandung | ||
1989-90 Perserikatan | 28 January 1990 | Persija - Persib | 2-2 | Menteng Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1990 Jawa Pos Cup | 10 September 1990 | Persija - Persib | 0-2 | Gelora 10 November Stadium | Surabaya |
1990 Piala Utama | 19 November 1990 | Persib - Persija | 4-0 | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
1991 Persija Cup | Persib - Persija | 2-0 | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta | |
1991-92 Perserikatan | 03 November 1991 | Persija - Persib | 0-0 | Menteng Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1991-92 Perserikatan | 30 January 1992 | Persib - Persija | 3-1 | Bandung | |
1993 Surya Cup | Persija - Persib | 2-0 | Gelora 10 November Stadium | Surabaya | |
1993-94 Perserikatan | 12 December 1993 | Persib - Persija | 3-0 | Bandung | |
1994 Siliwangi Cup | Persib - Persija | 2-2 (4-2) (PSO) | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | |
1993-94 Perserikatan | 30 January 1994 | Persija - Persib | 2-2 | Menteng Stadium | Central Jakarta |
1993-94 Perserikatan | 15 April 1994 | Persib - Persija | 1-1 (5-4) (PSO) | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta |
Liga Indonesia era
Competition | Date | Home team | Result | Away team | Venue | City |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1994–95 Premier Division | 16 April 1995 | Persija | Persib | Menteng Stadium | Central Jakarta | |
21 May 1995 | Persib | 2–1 | Persija | |||
1995–96 Premier Division | 7 July 1996 | Persija | Persib | Menteng Stadium | Central Jakarta | |
5 May 1996 | Persib | 1–0 | Persija | |||
1998–99 Premier Division | 29 November 1998 | Persija | 1–0 | Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta |
14 February 1999 | Persib | 1–3 | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | |
1999–2000 Premier Division | 23 March 2000 | Persib | 2–3 | Persija | Kostrad Field | Depok |
6 April 2000 | Persija | 2–1 | Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta | |
2001 Liga Indonesia Premier Division | 11 February 2001 | Persib | 0–1 | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
24 June 2001 | Persija | 3–0 | Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta | |
2002 Premier Division | 3 March 2002 | Persib | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | |
9 May 2002 | Persija | 2–0 | Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta | |
2003 Premier Division | 16 February 2003 | Persib | 1–2 | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
26 June 2003 | Persija | 3–0 | Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta | |
2004 Premier Division | 12 May 2004 | Persib | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | |
29 September 2004 | Persija | 1–0 | Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta | |
2005 Premier Division | 22 May 2005 | Persib | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | |
4 September 2005 | Persija | 3–0 (w.o.) |
Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta | |
2006 Premier Division | 26 February 2006 | Persija | Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta | |
20 May 2006 | Persib | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung | ||
2007 Yusuf Cup | 9 January 2007 | Persija | Persib | Andi Mattalatta Stadium | Makassar | |
2007–08 Premier Division | 24 April 2007 | Persib | 3–0 | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
16 August 2007 | Persija | 1–0 | Persib | Lebak Bulus Stadium | South Jakarta | |
2008–09 Indonesia Super League | 20 July 2008 | Persib | 2–3 | Persija | Siliwangi Stadium | Bandung |
10 June 2009 | Persija | 1–2 | Persib | Gajayana Stadium | Malang | |
2009–10 Indonesia Super League | 9 January 2010 | Persib | Persija | Si Jalak Harupat Stadium | Bandung | |
25 March 2010 | Persija | Persib | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta | ||
2010–11 Indonesia Super League | 30 October 2010 | Persija | 3–0 | Persib | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta |
18 March 2011 | Persib | 2–3 | Persija | Si Jalak Harupat Stadium | Bandung | |
2011–12 Indonesia Super League | 29 January 2012 | Persib | 1–0 | Persija | Si Jalak Harupat Stadium | Bandung |
27 May 2012 | Persija | Persib | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta | ||
2013 Indonesia Super League | 3 March 2013 | Persib | 3–1 | Persija | Si Jalak Harupat Stadium | Bandung |
28 August 2013 | Persija | Persib | Maguwoharjo Stadium | Sleman | ||
2014 Indonesia Super League | 8 May 2014 | Persib | Persija | Si Jalak Harupat Stadium | Bandung | |
10 August 2014 | Persija | Persib | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta | ||
2016 Indonesia Soccer Championship A | 16 July 2016 | Persib | Persija | Gelora Bandung Lautan Api Stadium | Bandung | |
5 November 2016 | Persija | Persib | Manahan Stadium | Surakarta | ||
2017 Liga 1 | 22 July 2017 | Persib | Persija | Gelora Bandung Lautan Api Stadium | Bandung | |
3 November 2017 | Persija | 1–0 (3–0) (awarded) |
Persib | Manahan Stadium | Surakarta | |
2018 Liga 1 | 30 June 2018 | Persija | 1–0 | Persib | PTIK Stadium | South Jakarta |
23 September 2018 | Persib | 3–2 | Persija | Gelora Bandung Lautan Api Stadium | Bandung | |
2019 Liga 1 | 10 July 2019 | Persija | Persib | Gelora Bung Karno Stadium | Central Jakarta | |
28 October 2019 | Persib | 2–0 | Persija | Kapten I Wayan Dipta Stadium | Gianyar, Bali |
Head-to-head results overall
Data Incomplete
Persija wins | 33 |
Draws | 36 |
Persib wins | 32 |
Persija goals | 117 |
Persib goals | 124 |
Total Matches | 101 |
Records
Data from 2007-08 Liga Indonesia Premier Division
As 10 July 2019
Most appearances
- Players in bold are still active
Position | Player | Team | Caps |
---|---|---|---|
1 | ![]() |
Persija Jakarta | 18 |
2 | ![]() |
Persija (1) Persib (15) | 16 |
3 | ![]() |
Persib (9) Persija (6) | 15 |
4 | ![]() |
Persib Bandung | 14 |
5 | ![]() |
Persija Jakarta | 13 |
![]() |
Persija (3) Persib (10) | ||
7 | ![]() |
Persija (6) Persib (5) | 11 |
8 | ![]() |
Persija Jakarta | 9 |
![]() |
Persija Jakarta | ||
10 | ![]() |
Persija (6) Persib (2) | 8 |
Top goalscorer
- Players in bold are still active
Position | Player | Team | Goals |
---|---|---|---|
1 | ![]() |
Persija Jakarta | 4 |
2 | ![]() ![]() |
Persib Bandung | 3 |
![]() |
Persija (2) Persib (1) | ||
![]() ![]() |
Persib Bandung | ||
5 | ![]() |
Persija Jakarta | 2 |
![]() |
Persija Jakarta | ||
![]() |
Persib Bandung | ||
![]() |
Persija Jakarta | ||
Clean sheet
- Players in bold are still active
Players | Persija clean sheet | Persib clean sheet | Total |
---|---|---|---|
![]() | 5 | - | 5 |
![]() | - | 3 | 3 |
![]() | 1 | - | 1 |
![]() | - | 1 | 1 |
![]() | - | 1 | 1 |
![]() | 1 | - | 1 |
![]() | 1 | - | 1 |
![]() | - | 1 | 1 |
![]() | 1 | - | 1 |
![]() | - | 1 | 1 |
Men in both teams
Note:
- Since Liga Indonesia era (1994 - present)
- Players in bold are still active
Players who played for both clubs
Persija then Persib
Player | Persija | Persib |
---|---|---|
![]() ![]() | 2011-2014 | 2019-present |
![]() ![]() | 2015 | 2017 |
![]() | 2007–2009, 2011-2013 | 2016 |
![]() | 2010 | 2013-2015 |
![]() | 2011 | 2011–2012 |
![]() | 2010–2011 | 2011–2013 |
![]() | 2007–2011 | 2011–2012 |
![]() | 2007–2011, 2013, 2015–2016 | 2011–2012 |
![]() | 2010–2011, 2019-present | 2011–2018 |
![]() | 2006–2010 | 2011-2013 |
![]() | 2009–2010 | 2010 |
![]() | 2001–2002, 2003–2004 | 2009–2010 |
![]() | 2004–2008 | 2008–2018 |
![]() | 2005 | 2007–2009 |
![]() | 2006–2007 | 2007–2008 |
![]() | 2004–2005 | 2006 |
![]() | 2005–2006 | 2006–2007 |
![]() | 2002 | 2006 |
![]() | 2001–2003 | 2005-2006 |
![]() | 2000–2003 | 2004 |
![]() | 2001 | 2004 |
![]() | 2001–2003 | 2004 |
![]() | 2000 | 2004 |
![]() | 1999–2001 | 2002 |
![]() | 1999–2000 | 2002 |
![]() ![]() | 1995–1997 | 2001 |
Persib then Persija
Player | Persib | Persija |
---|---|---|
![]() | 2016 | 2019 |
![]() | 2013-2015 | 2018-present |
![]() | 2013 | 2018 |
![]() | 2008–2013 | 2016–present |
![]() | 2014 | 2016 |
![]() | 2010–2011 | 2011–2014 |
![]() | 2006–2009 | 2009 |
![]() | 2002, 2004–2008 | 2009–2010 |
![]() | 2008–2009 | 2009–2010 |
![]() | 2008 | 2009 |
![]() | 2003 | 2006 |
![]() | 1999–2000, 2004 | 2003 |
![]() | 1997–1998 | 1999–2000 |
Head coaches who coached for both clubs
Head Coach | Persija | Persib |
---|---|---|
![]() | 2005-2006 | 2006-2008 |
source:[12]
Honours
Persija | Competition | Persib | |
---|---|---|---|
Domestic | |||
11 | League | 7 | |
1 | Indonesia President's Cup | 1 | |
- | Piala Indonesia | - | |
- | Indonesian Community Shield | - | |
- | Inter Island Cup (defunct) | - | |
- | Piala Utama (defunct) | - | |
- | Piala Presiden Soeharto (defunct) | - | |
- | Galatama-Perserikatan Invitational Championship (defunct) | - | |
12 | Aggregate | 8 | |
Asian and Worldwide | |||
- | ASEAN Club Championship | - | |
- | AFC Cup | - | |
- | AFC Champions League | - | |
- | FIFA Club World Cup | - | |
- | Asian Super Cup (defunct) | - | |
- | Asian Cup Winners' Cup (defunct) | - | |
- | Afro-Asian Club Championship (defunct) | - | |
0 | Aggregate | 0 | |
12 | Total Aggregate | 8 |
Supporters
Their supporters have never met after the start of hostilities between supporters of Persija and Persib in the 2000s, to date. Many conflicts occur including the death of one of the supporters and clashes which resulted in injury.
Persija Jakarta
Persija Jakarta's supporters called The Jakmania. Founded in 1997 by Gugun Gondrong and Ferry Indrasjarief with orange colour as their identity. The Jakmania is one of the biggest football club supporters in Indonesia.
Persib Bandung

Persib fans often refer to themselves as Bobotoh, this name comes from the Sundanese language. Literally as people provide support, spirit and encouragement, for those who do the match. There are several groups of Persib supporters but the most famous are Viking Persib Club (VPC) and Flowers City Casuals (FCC).[13]
Tragedy
Two biggest tragedy occurred on March 5 2012, when Rangga Cipta Nugraha was beaten to the ground with a stadium bench only because he cheered happily when the Persib player scored, some say that the blood on his head did not stop pouring even until he was put into a grave.
Another tragedy happened on September 23, 2018, when before the match begins, one of the Jakmania members, Haringga Sirla, was killed by some unscrupulous host fans.[14] Condolences for Haringga also flowed from the netizens throughout social media
Reconciliation
Until now, many parties want these two supporters to unite, but there are still many who provoke either from The Jakmania or Bobotoh, whether on social media or in real life. The dark past makes these two supporters difficult to unite, even to the point that there is a slogan, "Biarkan Permusuhan Ini Tetap Abadi", which means, "Let This Feud Remain Eternal" from one of the main figure Bobotoh frontman.
See also
References
- http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/indoamchamp.html
- http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/indojusuf.html#77
- http://anak-negeri.blogspot.com/2013/01/piala-utama-1990-1992.html?m=1
- http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/indobangali77.html
- https://superball.bolasport.com/read/bola/liga-1/197307-head-to-head-laga-persib-vs-persija-macan-kemayoran-punya-catatan-buruk?page=all
- http://www.rsssf.com/tablesm/marahhalim.html
- https://novanmediaresearch.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/piala-jawa-pos-i1989-dan-ii1990/
- https://novanmediaresearch.wordpress.com/2010/09/25/piala-bandung-urang-1979-persib-juara/
- https://www.indosport.com/sepakbola/20151020/ketika-persija-berpesta-di-siliwangi
- http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/indo-pssi50-80.html
- https://novanmediaresearch.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/misteri-turnamen-kongres-pssi-1950-semakin-terungkap/amp/
- "Informasi klub". persib.co.id. Retrieved 13 October 2014.
- Media, Kompas Cyber. "Persib Vs Persija, 44 Pelanggaran, 10 Kartu Kuning, dan 1 Korban Jiwa Halaman all". KOMPAS.com (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2018-10-09.