Discipline (King Crimson album)

Discipline is the eighth studio album by English progressive rock band King Crimson, released on September 22, 1981 by E.G. Records in the United Kingdom and by Warner Bros. Records in the United States.[5] This album was King Crimson's first album following a seven-year hiatus. Only founder Robert Fripp and later addition Bill Bruford remained from previous incarnations. The rest of the band were American musicians Adrian Belew (guitar, lead vocals) and Tony Levin (bass guitar, Chapman Stick, backing vocals). The album resulted in a more updated 1980s new wave-oriented sound.

Discipline
Studio album by
King Crimson
Released22 September 1981
RecordedMay – June 1981
StudioBasing Street Studios, Notting Hill, London, England
Genre
Length38:15
Label
Producer
King Crimson chronology
USA
(1975)		 Discipline
(1981)		 Beat
(1982)
King Crimson studio chronology
Red
(1974)		 Discipline
(1981)		 Beat
(1982)
Singles from Discipline
  1. "Matte Kudasai" / "Elephant Talk"
    Released: September 1981
  2. "Thela Hun Ginjeet"
    Released: September 1981

Background and composition

"Matte Kudasai" (Japanese: 待って下さい) literally means "please wait". The original release of Discipline featured only one version of "Matte Kudasai", with a guitar part by Robert Fripp that was removed from the track on a subsequent release of the album. The latest versions of the album to be released contains both versions of the song – track 3, "Matte Kudasai", without Robert Fripp's original guitar part; and track 8, "Matte Kudasai (alternative version)", with the guitar part included. [6]

The lyrics of "Indiscipline" were based on a letter written to Adrian Belew by his then-wife Margaret, concerning a painting that she had made.[7]

"Thela Hun Ginjeet" is an anagram of "heat in the jungle". When it was first performed live, some of its lyrics were improvised around an illicit recording made by Robert Fripp of his neighbours having a vicious argument when he was living in New York; this recording is featured on the track "NY3" on Fripp's solo album Exposure. While the track was being recorded for the Discipline album, Adrian Belew, walking around Notting Hill Gate in London with a tape recorder looking for inspiration, was harassed first by a gang and then by the police. On returning to the studio, he gave a distraught account to his bandmates of what had just happened to him. This account was recorded by Fripp, without Belew's knowledge, as well [8] and is featured on the Discipline version of the track (as well as almost all live versions), in place of those earlier lyrics that were based on Fripp's New York recording.

"The Sheltering Sky" is named after and partially inspired by the 1949 novel of the same name by Paul Bowles. Bowles is often associated with the Beat generation, which would be an inspiration for King Crimson's subsequent studio album Beat.

Later versions of Discipline featured this design by Steve Ball.

Live versions of "Elephant Talk", "Indiscipline", and "Thela Hun Ginjeet" included partial vocal improvisation during spoken-word parts. One such example can be found in the 13 August 1982 performance, which, as of 12 August 2014, was still available for download in both MP3 and FLAC formats from DGM.

The back cover features the statement, "Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end". The original front cover features a variation on a copyrighted Celtic knot design by George Bain.[9] As it was found to be used without Bain's permission, it was replaced on later releases by a knotwork designed by Steve Ball on commission from Robert Fripp.[10][11] Ball's design is also used as the logo of Discipline Global Mobile, the music label founded by Fripp, which has become the label for King Crimson, Fripp, and associated artists.

Reception
Professional ratings
Review scores
SourceRating
All About Jazz[12]
AllMusic[13]
Christgau's Record GuideB[14]
Encyclopedia of Popular Music[15]
The Great Rock Discography8/10[16]
Mojo[17]
MusicHound Rock: The Essential Album Guide[18]
Rolling Stone[19]
The Rolling Stone Album Guide[20]
Trouser Pressfavourable[4]

Discipline reached number 41 in the UK Albums Chart[21] and received mixed to positive reviews. John Piccarella's review in Rolling Stone praised the talent and artistry of the four musicians of King Crimson, particularly Belew and Fripp's "visionary approach to guitar playing", but criticized the "arty content" of the album itself, concluding "Here's hoping that, unlike every other King Crimson lineup, this band of virtuosos stays together long enough to transform all of their experiments into innovations."[19] Robert Christgau described the album as "not bad--the Heads meet the League of Gentlemen."[22]

Greg Prato's retrospective review in AllMusic gave his approval of the album, particularly applauding the unexpectedly successful combinations of Fripp and Belew's disparate playing styles. According to him, "the pairing of these two originals worked out magically."[13]

Pitchfork ranked it at number 56 in their list of the "Top 100 Albums of the 1980s".[23]

Track listing

All songs written by Adrian Belew, Bill Bruford, Robert Fripp and Tony Levin.

Side A
No.TitleLength
1."Elephant Talk"4:43
2."Frame by Frame"5:09
3."Matte Kudasai" (待ってください, Please Wait)3:47
4."Indiscipline"4:33
Side B
No.TitleLength
5."Thela Hun Ginjeet"6:26
6."The Sheltering Sky" (Instrumental)8:22
7."Discipline" (instrumental)5:13
30th Anniversary Series bonus track
No.TitleLength
8."Matte Kudasai" (待ってください, Please Wait) (Alternative version)3:50

2011 40th Anniversary edition
Disc one - CD - Original Album 2011 Stereo Mix - bonus tracks
No.TitleLength
1."Elephant Talk" (2011 Stereo Mix)4:43
2."Frame by Frame" (2011 Stereo Mix)5:09
3."Matte Kudasai" (2011 Stereo Mix - 待ってください, Please Wait)3:47
4."Indiscipline" (2011 Stereo Mix)4:33
5."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (2011 Stereo Mix)6:26
6."The Sheltering Sky" (2011 Stereo Mix - Instrumental)8:22
7."Discipline" (2011 Stereo Mix - instrumental)5:13
8."A selection of Adrian's vocal loops 1" (Bonus Tracks)0:18
9."A selection of Adrian's vocal loops 2" (Bonus Tracks)0:33
10."The Sheltering Sky" (Bonus Tracks - Alternate mix - Steven Wilson)8:27
11."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (Bonus Tracks - Alternate mix - Steven Wilson)6:33
Disc two - DVD-A (various mixes and bonuses)
No.TitleLength
1."Elephant Talk" (Original Album - MLP Lossless 5.1 Surround) 
2."Frame by Frame" (Original Album - MLP Lossless 5.1 Surround) 
3."Matte Kudasai" (Original Album - MLP Lossless 5.1 Surround - 待ってください, Please Wait) 
4."Indiscipline" (Original Album - MLP Lossless 5.1 Surround) 
5."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (Original Album - MLP Lossless 5.1 Surround) 
6."The Sheltering Sky" (Original Album - MLP Lossless 5.1 Surround - Instrumental) 
7."Discipline" (Original Album - MLP Lossless 5.1 Surround - instrumental) 
8."Elephant Talk" (Original Album - DTS 5.1 Digital Surround) 
9."Frame by Frame" (Original Album - DTS 5.1 Digital Surround) 
10."Matte Kudasai" (Original Album - DTS 5.1 Digital Surround - 待ってください, Please Wait) 
11."Indiscipline" (Original Album - DTS 5.1 Digital Surround) 
12."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (Original Album - DTS 5.1 Digital Surround) 
13."The Sheltering Sky" (Original Album - DTS 5.1 Digital Surround - Instrumental) 
14."Discipline" (Original Album - DTS 5.1 Digital Surround - instrumental) 
15."Elephant Talk" (2011 Stereo Mix - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96)) 
16."Frame by Frame" (2011 Stereo Mix - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96)) 
17."Matte Kudasai" (2011 Stereo Mix - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - 待ってください, Please Wait) 
18."Indiscipline" (2011 Stereo Mix - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96)) 
19."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (2011 Stereo Mix - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96)) 
20."The Sheltering Sky" (2011 Stereo Mix - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - Instrumental) 
21."Discipline" (2011 Stereo Mix - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - instrumental) 
22."Elephant Talk" (2011 Stereo Mix - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48)) 
23."Frame by Frame" (2011 Stereo Mix - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48)) 
24."Matte Kudasai" (2011 Stereo Mix - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - 待ってください, Please Wait) 
25."Indiscipline" (2011 Stereo Mix - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48)) 
26."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (2011 Stereo Mix - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48)) 
27."The Sheltering Sky" (2011 Stereo Mix - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - Instrumental) 
28."Discipline" (2011 Stereo Mix - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - instrumental) 
29."Elephant Talk" (30th Anniversary Remaster - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96)) 
30."Frame by Frame" (30th Anniversary Remaster - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96)) 
31."Matte Kudasai" (30th Anniversary Remaster - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - 待ってください, Please Wait) 
32."Indiscipline" (30th Anniversary Remaster - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96)) 
33."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (30th Anniversary Remaster - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96)) 
34."The Sheltering Sky" (30th Anniversary Remaster - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - Instrumental) 
35."Discipline" (30th Anniversary Remaster - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - instrumental) 
36."Matte Kudasai" (30th Anniversary Remaster - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - Alternate version) 
37."Elephant Talk" (30th Anniversary Remaster - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48)) 
38."Frame by Frame" (30th Anniversary Remaster - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48)) 
39."Matte Kudasai" (30th Anniversary Remaster - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - 待ってください, Please Wait) 
40."Indiscipline" (30th Anniversary Remaster - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48)) 
41."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (30th Anniversary Remaster - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48)) 
42."The Sheltering Sky" (30th Anniversary Remaster - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - Instrumental) 
43."Discipline" (30th Anniversary Remaster - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - instrumental) 
44."Matte Kudasai" (30th Anniversary Remaster - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - Alternate version) 
45."A selection of Adrian's vocal loops" (Additional Tracks - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96))0:51
46."The Sheltering Sky" (Additional Tracks - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - Alternate mix - Steven Wilson)8:27
47."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (Additional Tracks - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - Alternate mix - Steven Wilson)6:33
48."The Terrifying Tale of Thela Hun Ginjeet"
  • i) "Robert Fripp: Venal Leader (later Heartless & Raging) Promotes" (Warner Bros Office, New York City, New York, 1981)
  • ii) "Adrian Belew: Shaking Artist" (Basing St. Studios, May 1981)
  • iii) "Thela Hun Ginjeet" (Additional Tracks - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 30 July 1982)
8:04
49."Elephant Talk" (Additional Tracks - MLP Lossless Stereo (24/96) - 12" Dance mix)5:03
50."A selection of Adrian's vocal loops" (Additional Tracks - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48))0:51
51."The Sheltering Sky" (Additional Tracks - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - Alternate mix - Steven Wilson)8:27
52."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (Additional Tracks - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - Alternate mix - Steven Wilson)6:33
53."The Terrifying Tale of Thela Hun Ginjeet"
  • i) "Robert Fripp: Venal Leader (later Heartless & Raging) Promotes" (Warner Bros Office, New York City, New York, 1981)
  • ii) "Adrian Belew: Shaking Artist" (Basing St. Studios, May 1981)
  • iii) "Thela Hun Ginjeet" (Additional Tracks - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 30 July 1982)
8:04
54."Elephant Talk" (Additional Tracks - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - 12" Dance mix)5:03
55."Discipline" (Album Rough Mixes - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - Instrumental)5:13
56."Thela Hun Ginjeet" (Album Rough Mixes - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48))6:26
57."Matte Kudasai" (Album Rough Mixes - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - 待ってください, Please Wait)3:47
58."Elephant Talk" (Album Rough Mixes - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48))4:43
59."The Sheltering Sky" (Album Rough Mixes - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48) - Instrumental)8:22
60."Frame by Frame" (Album Rough Mixes - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48))5:09
61."Indiscipline" (Album Rough Mixes - PCM Stereo 2.0 (24/48))4:33
62."Elephant Talk" (Video Content - Selections From The Old Grey Whistle Test - Recorded live at The Venue, London, England, 9 October 1981)4:47
63."Frame by Frame" (Video Content - Selections From The Old Grey Whistle Test - Recorded at the BBC, 15 March 1982, introduced by Annie Nightingale)4:44
64."Indiscipline" (Video Content - Selections From The Old Grey Whistle Test - Recorded at the BBC, 15 March 1982, introduced by Annie Nightingale)6:52

Personnel

Technical

Charts
Chart (1981) Peak
position
US Billboard 200[25] 45
UK Albums (OCC)[26] 41
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