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Please let me know if my question does not makes any sense as I am not sure if I am interpreting it correctly from my thoughts due to my lack of technical knowledge on this.

If I am using a motherboard which has a connection for a SFF-8087 to 4x cable such as this SFF-8087 to 4x SATA connection.

I am still learning about SAS but was told to build a system from a potential employer utilizing these connections. However, I am just not sure I understand the concept on how the system will treat the SATA connections which are going into the SAS port via this cable.

Also what would be the advantage of doing it this way as opposed to just connecting the SATA drives directly into the SATA motherboard ports? I believe the built-in SAS connection may be an integrated RAID controller.

Although, yes I can just go ahead and connect all the cables that fit I would like to have a better grasp of what I am doing such as:

  1. If a motherboard has SAS connections, should I automatically assume it has some type of RAID controller built-in or is this on a case by case basis?
  2. Do All RAID controllers have only SAS connections?
  3. Even though the SATA drives are connected via a SAS connection, are they still just treated as SATA drives or as SAS technology?
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A few items to help clarify SAS technology...

  • SATA drives can connect to SAS ports.
  • SAS drives cannot connect to SATA ports.
  • Server-class hardware typically uses an embedded RAID controller or a separate RAID controller PCIe device.
  • Most RAID controllers and SAS HBAs will use SAS connections (multilane or 4-lane SAS ports).
  • Internally, these systems will use one of the internal SAS transports (SFF-8087 or SFF-8484) for cabling.
  • 4-lane SAS cables carry FOUR SAS links over the same cable.
  • Enterprise servers will typically have a SAS backplane for hot-swap hard drives. These backplanes can accommodate SAS and SATA disks. The backplanes also provide power to the drives. It doesn't make sense to run SATA cables to hot-swappable hard drives. Instead, the internal SAS cables will link the controller and the backplane.
  • You can mix and match SATA and SAS on the same backplane, but because the protocols are different, bad things. can happen.

Internal SAS 4-lane cabling to a backplane enter image description here

Internal SAS breakout cabling to a backplane enter image description here

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  • Awesome! Thank you for the clarification. The server in question does not have a backplane which was the reasoning for the breakout cable. I never actually worked with SAS drives and was a bit confused on how SAS connections affected SATA drives connected to them. – Damainman May 24 '13 at 23:11
  • Ca you connect a SAS Backplane populated with 4 SATA disks/ssds to an onboard sata controller on consumer motherboards, by means of a mSAS to SATA fanout cable? The backplane features an mSASx4 connector and the motheboard, being consumer grade, has just SATA connectors. Is this compatible? Basically, what I'm asking is, can I use a SAS enclosure to hook up 4x SSDs to normal SATA ports on the motherboard, instead of a RAID HBA card. – Paul-Sebastian May 13 '16 at 14:58
  • Maybe? As long as it's all SATA equipment. – ewwhite May 13 '16 at 15:41
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You can plug in SATA disks to a SAS backplane. The SAS backplane can not go back to standard SATA ports on the system board. The SAS backplane would need to connect to SAS controller card. The other option would be to forgo the backplane and go from the SATA disks directly to the motherboard SATA ports. (not sure what your system board supports for RAID though)

Serial Storage has a good article: Also The SCSI Trade Association also is a good resource:

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