Super Mario Bros. Z/Headscratchers

• So Captain Basilisx lectures Mario about his wanton murder of Koopas, calling him a hypocrite...after callously petrifying one of his fellow Koopas in an earlier scene?
  • Well, presumably the petrification itself isn't lethal, based on the whole "I could just turn you to stone and GRIND YOU INTO DUST" thing. Plus, he lost his emotions due to the experiments that turned him superpowered, so he's not exactly high up on the list of characters who would be bothered by violently incapacitating a subordinate unable to get the job done.
  • What bugs ME about Captain Basilisx is the justification he gives for his attack on Mario. He claims Mario kicked a Koopa into lava, but those of us who have actually played Super Mario World 1 know that Room 2 of Front Door (Bowser's Castle) has no lava in it whatsoever. It has wire nets, Koopas, spikes, and Lava Bubbles that bounce off of walls. And don't say that one of those Lava Bubbles fried the Koopa, since Mario could avoid the Lava Bubbles by switching to the other side of the wire net, where the Koopas were. I seriously hope that in Episode 9, someone calls bullshit on this and uses it to engage Basilisx in a Curb Stomp Battle.
    • I say it's Moral Myopia. Basilix complains about all the koopas Mario's killed (including his friend), but remember, koopas are soldiers fighting for an evil tyrant and are the aggressors in their repeated wars against the Mushroom Kingdom. What about all the Mushroom people they jam into blocks over the years? Not to mention, the availability of extra lives may make death cheap, though one would assume death by lava or bottomless pit may be one not affected by 1-ups.
    • On the 1-up point, do note that Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Sonic, and Shadow, as well as other Mario series protagonists, are not koopas. The extra lives concept may simply not apply. Also, it has already been proven that lava/bottomless pit death is affected by 1-ups.
    • Given the amount of references and research that Alvin does, Basilisx may actually have been lying.
      • Or even brainwashed. What's to say that Basilisx wasn't fed this information over and over again until he believed it to be the truth? False recollection is a well-documented phenomenon, and they've already been playing with his mind. In fact, this troper is banking on that being the key to Mario's escape at the start of Episode 9, though we'll see when it comes out.
      • Word of God says that he was tricked. Lied to.
• I'm calling this one despite the fact that it's nitpicking. Basilisx's and Mario's situations at the end of Episode 8 are entirely different:
  • Basilisx: You [sniveling] pedlar (sp?). You have no right to be angry that I [used] your friend to my advantage, [especially] when you did the exact [same] thing with my [friend's shell against] him and [his comrades] that day.
  • Mario: He's not my friend...he's my brother!
  • (Thus, any excuse Basilisx makes is not justified.)
    • I think Basilisx really meant "someone who is close to Mario". You can have a brother and not be friends or close with him.
    • Okay, first of all, it's the same concept, using something of someone else's, in this case care for an ally, against them. Second I don't know if you're just an only child with a very bruised idea of what sibling relationships are like or something, but just because you're someone's brother doesn't mean you can't be that someone's friend too.
  • Also note that when Mario does defeat one of Bowser's minions, he tends to do it quickly, or just stun them and leave them be. Basilisx is clearly drawing Mario's demise out and has a clear desire to turn him into nightmare fueled modern art.
• I'm probably the only one bothered by this, but why aren't any women fighting? Axem Pink was the only woman who faught, and all she did was one combo move on a shielded Luigi. That's excusable as Axem Pink used Roll.EXE's sprites, but come on!
  • Because this a Mario&Sonic crossover in a story based on Dragonball Z, in other words there are simply no women involved in the plot that fight. All the females from Sonic are dead, the ones from Mario are Peach, who is in her Damsel in Distress role, Daisy and Toadette who don't have any business getting involved in the series, let alone the fights, and Rosalina, who...may appear later.
• If Shadow can sense the energy from Chaos Emeralds over long distances, then why do they even need a Dragon Radar Gameboy?
  • He can sense it, but he can't pinpoint it.
• Why does Basilisx keep calling Mario a "peddler"? That's a pretty weird insult.
  • Well, a peddler is someone who goes around selling old trinkets and wares, while a plumber is someone who goes around fixing broken pipes. I guess in Basilisx's mind, he believed they were the same thing. That's my guess.
  • The term "peddler" (or ""pedlar", as the case is) generally has a negative connotation- i.e., an unwanted guest.
• Both Mario and Luigi have no problem to hammer their allies into the enemies or use them as a weapon. Mario was using Luigi as one earlier in episode 8. Why he couldn't fight back against Luigi-wielding Basilisx?
  • Because he didn't want to break Luigi.
• This is a pretty minor complaint, but what's up with the title? Yes, I know that it's Mario, Sonic, and Dragonball Z in a blender, but why don't they include Sonic in the title? The series is just as, if not more, has more elements in it! Not to mention that Dragonball Z's only influence is the fight scenes...
  • It takes place in Mario's world.
  • More than the fight scenes are influenced by DBZ, too. The plot has roots in the Cell Saga, but draws from the Namek and Android sagas, for sure; there are little bits and pieces that are references or homages...like Shadow channeling Vegeta or the Gameboy Whatever-radar-inator...whoops, wrong show. Sorry.
• The heroes going after Bowser, forgetting that Sonic knows what Metal Sonic is capable of and the entire Mushroom Kingdom can tell you Bowser has never once harmed a hair on Peach's head.
  • Well they can't just ignore the entire sky battalion that shows up to devastate Mushroom Kingdom.
  • But they can ignore the automaton that's devastated a planet?
  • Let's not forget the heroes have quite a few of the emeralds. Let's see... they got 4 from Mecha in episode 6, and one from the minus world in 7. I'd say they have the clear advantage, and they know that.
• Thirty-seven more episodes to be produced? Really? I hope Alvin picks up the pace, then, because at his current rate of putting them out, we'll have all grown old before the series is finished.
  • Last I heard, he needs to get voice clips for the Koopalings from New Super Mario Bros. Wii but I don't know if he's made any progress on that or what.
    • Somebody else had already mentioned this, but Alivn either needs to get some assistance or he needs to stop the series altogether, this troper understands that Alvin has a life and all that, but there's only a certain amount of waiting people can take. This troper wouldn't be surprised if angry and impatient fans of this series are pestering Alvin right now, it wouldn't be the first time.
      • Just look at his Deviant Art comments.
  • He has demonstrated at one point that he could work faster if he wanted to, but does not want to. However according to the main page, the ninth episode is being worked on now.
  • ...And the series is cancelled. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
    • Couldn't it just be passed on to someone else? Not doing that or something like just posting a summary of what would have happened would be selfish and spiteful. "Oh, too bad you got invested in this, but I'm not going to bother to give you any closure" would seriously piss me (and a lot of people) off, and rightfully so.
    • Here, he states the main reason he doesn't want to pass it of to another person is because it wouldn't match his vision and would probably be of low quality.
• Why can't Shadow bring his friends back?
  • Don't mind me asking a question, but how was he supposed to do that, especially with the world ravaged and no Chaos Emeralds in Mobius?
  • What makes you think Shadow can bring his friends back? The only resurrection ever in the Sonic series was that of the recently-dead Sonic using all 7 Chaos Emeralds in StH 2006. No one's dared try to resurrect, say, Maria, and it's probably safe to say that Shadow's friends have been dead for a while now.