New Firm (Scotland)
The New Firm is the term used, hailing from the 1980s, to describe the rivalry between Scottish football clubs Aberdeen and Dundee United. Both clubs are located on the east coast of Scotland, in the third and fourth most populous cities respectively.
Locale | North-east Scotland |
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Teams | Aberdeen and Dundee Utd |
Statistics | |
Meetings total | 236 |
Most wins | Aberdeen |
Aberdeen
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Dundee United
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Although not traditionally a derby, with 65 miles separating both teams, the fixture was seen as a North-east of Scotland derby between the two most successful teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm during the 1980s. Dundee United also have a more traditional rivalry with their close neighbours Dundee.
History
The term originated in the 1980s, when both clubs challenged the Old Firm for domestic trophies.[1] The term was used by Evening Times and The Glasgow Herald.[2][3]
The Old Firm have more often than not been the dominant force in Scottish Football, however throughout the 1980s both Aberdeen and Dundee United were more than a match for them, regularly beating them home and away and winning many of the trophies on offer.
Aberdeen were to win the Scottish Premier Division three times, the Scottish Cup four times, the Scottish League Cup twice, the European Cup Winners' Cup and the European Super Cup, all within the 1980s. In this same period, Dundee United won the Scottish Premier Division once and the Scottish League Cup twice, as well as reaching the Scottish Cup final four times, the 1987 UEFA Cup Final, and the semi-final of the 1983–84 European Cup. Not only were the Old Firm not dominating the title race, but for three seasons in a row, 1983 through to 1985, the league title went to either Aberdeen or Dundee United, meaning for the first time two other teams were dominating Scottish Football.
Both sides' success was limited as they entered the 1990s, with Aberdeen winning both cups in 1989–90, reaching both finals in 1992–93, as well as almost winning the league in 1991, while Dundee United were Scottish Cup finalists in 1991 and finally winners in 1994. However, in the 1994–95 season both sides fought relegation (with United going down), and although Aberdeen won the Scottish League Cup in 1995 and Dundee United the Scottish Cup again in 2010, neither side has managed to be a consistent force for Rangers and Celtic to reckon with, and Aberdeen's league success in 1984–85 is the last time a non-Old Firm club won the Scottish league title.
Since 2010 however, the sides have seen a divergence in fortunes, as Aberdeen capitalised on Rangers' financial issues to win the Scottish League Cup in 2014 and finish runners-up behind Celtic for four years running between 2014–15 and 2017–18 (losing three cup finals to the same club in that period, while Dundee United were relegated from the top flight in 2016 having lost the 2014 Scottish Cup Final to a local rival, St Johnstone.
Domestic head-to-head
In domestic head-to-head matches, the teams have played each other 239 times, Aberdeen winning 96 compared to United's 76.[4] Aberdeen have won more league and Scottish Cup matches while United have won more League Cup matches between the two.
Given their mutual success particularly in the 1980s, it is perhaps surprising that the only major final featuring both clubs is the 1979–80 Scottish League Cup Final, won by Dundee United in a replay at Dens Park after a draw in Glasgow.
Team | League | Scottish Cup | League Cup | Total |
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Aberdeen | 76 | 11 | 9 | 96 |
Draw | 53 | 9 | 5 | 67 |
Dundee United | 59 | 6 | 11 | 76 |
Totals | 188 | 26 | 25 | 239 |
League competition
Scottish Premiership Table (2013/14-present - 5 Seasons)
- As of 16 May 2018:
Club | Seasons | Played | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts |
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Aberdeen | 5 | 190 | 111 | 30 | 49 | 302 | 191 | 111 | 363 |
Dundee United | 3 | 114 | 41 | 22 | 51 | 168 | 176 | -8 | 142 |
SPL Table (1998/99-2012/13 - 15 Seasons)
Club | Seasons | Played | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts |
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Aberdeen | 15 | 566 | 188 | 143 | 235 | 651 | 785 | -134 | 707 |
Dundee United | 15 | 566 | 173 | 162 | 231 | 674 | 845 | -171 | 681 |
European competition
- As of 9 August 2012:
Team | T | P | W | D | L | F | A |
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Dundee United | 26 | 110 | 46 | 30 | 34 | 168 | 116 |
Aberdeen | 27 | 109 | 44 | 28 | 37 | 160 | 130 |
Players at both clubs
Nine players have signed for Dundee United directly from Aberdeen, the last being in 2000. Ten have made the opposite journey from Tannadice to Pittodrie, with five since August 2005.
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Dundee United to Aberdeen
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Complete list
In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.
Player records
- A list of players to have scored in derby matches between the two from 27 August 1994 up to 2 May 2015 is below:
Partial game list
Fixtures from 27 August 1994 to the present day featuring League games, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches.[26][27] Aberdeen wins are coloured in red, United wins in tangerine and draws are grey.
Date | Competition | Venue | Result | Crowd | Scorers (Aberdeen) | Scorers (United) |
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27 August 1994 | Premier Division | Tannadice | 9,332 | Grant | Welsh, Brewster | |
29 October 1994 | Premier Division | Pittodrie | 11,744 | Kane (2), Booth | ||
2 January 1995 | Premier Division | Tannadice | 10,560 | |||
6 May 1995 | Premier Division | Pittodrie | 20,124 | Dodds, Shearer | Winters | |
28 September 1996 | Premier Division | Tannadice | 10,359 | McSwegan | ||
16 November 1996 | Premier Division | Pittodrie | 13,807 | Kiriakov, Kombouaré, Dodds | McLaren, Winters, Olofsson | |
1 January 1997 | Premier Division | Tannadice | 9,736 | Winters, Pressley (2), Olofsson | ||
15 March 1997 | Premier Division | Pittodrie | 13,645 | Windass | Olofsson | |
30 August 1997 | Premier Division | Pittodrie | 12,060 | Dodds | Winters | |
15 October 1997 | League Cup SF | Tynecastle | 10,456 | Windass | Winters (2), Easton | |
9 November 1997 | Premier Division | Tannadice | 7,893 | Olofsson (2), Zetterlund, McLaren, Easton | ||
3 January 1998 | Premier Division | Pittodrie | 17,025 | Windass | ||
24 January 1998 | Scottish Cup R3 | Tannadice | 11,488 | Winters | ||
11 April 1998 | Premier Division | Tannadice | 9,155 | |||
4 October 1998 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,933 | McSwegan | ||
28 November 1998 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 11,964 | Olofsson, J.Miller, Easton | ||
20 February 1999 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,309 | Olofsson, Dodds, Hannah | ||
17 April 1999 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 11,603 | Dodds (2), J.Miller, Olofsson | ||
18 September 1999 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 11,814 | Dow | Hannah, Dodds | |
6 November 1999 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,170 | Solberg | Dodds (2), Paterson | |
27 December 1999 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 16,656 | Zerouali, Belabed, Stavrum | Hannah | |
13 February 2000 | League Cup SF | Dens | 9,500 | Stavrum | ||
12 March 2000 | Scottish Cup QF | Tannadice | 6,738 | Jess | ||
25 March 2000 | Premier League | Tannadice | 6,723 | Stavrum | Ferraz | |
23 September 2000 | Premier League | Tannadice | 7,699 | Winters (3), Young, Jess | Easton, McConalogue, Hannah | |
17 March 2001 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,457 | Winters | C.Miller | |
4 April 2001 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 9,962 | Stavrum (3), Young | Griffin | |
20 May 2001 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 11,633 | Stavrum | Venetis, Lilley | |
15 September 2001 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 12,948 | Winters, Zerouali | McIntyre | |
15 December 2001 | Premier League | Tannadice | 9,129 | Winters | Easton | |
16 February 2002 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 13,612 | Winters, Young (2), Mike | ||
11 September 2002 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 10,724 | Mackie | Thompson (2) | |
30 November 2002 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,621 | McGuire | Hamilton | |
16 February 2003 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 9,146 | Sheerin (2), McGuire | ||
24 May 2003 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,516 | Mackie, Tosh | ||
18 October 2003 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 11,234 | McLaren | ||
17 January 2004 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,888 | Booth, Clark | Robson, C.Miller, Dodds | |
3 April 2004 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 8,449 | Hinds, McGuire, Sheerin | ||
11 September 2004 | Premier League | Tannadice | 10,995 | Mackie | Wilson | |
27 November 2004 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 12,038 | Tosh | ||
27 February 2005 | Scottish Cup QF | Tannadice | 8,661 | Byrne | Archibald, Grady (2), Crawford | |
2 March 2005 | Premier League | Tannadice | 6,688 | Diamond, Stewart | Scotland | |
30 July 2005 | Premier League | Tannadice | 12,404 | Nicholson | L.Miller | |
25 October 2005 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 10,720 | Smith, Crawford | ||
7 January 2006 | Scottish Cup R3 | Tannadice | 8,218 | Crawford (2), Nicholson | Fernandez (2) | |
21 January 2006 | Premier League | Tannadice | 9,936 | Mackie | Archibald | |
21 October 2006 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 10,747 | Mackie, Nicholson (2) | Robson | |
30 December 2006 | Premier League | Tannadice | 12,329 | Severin | Samuel (2), Robson | |
7 April 2007 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 12,148 | Lovell, Mackie | Daly, Hunt, Cameron (2) | |
4 August 2007 | Premier League | Tannadice | 12,496 | D.Robertson | ||
3 November 2007 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 11,964 | Aluko, L.Miller | ||
19 January 2008 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,579 | Hunt, Robson (2) | ||
5 February 2008 | League Cup SF | Tynecastle | 12,046 | Considine | Dods, Kalvenes, Conway, Gomis | |
3 May 2008 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 10,312 | Foster, Touzani | Swanson | |
20 September 2008 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 11,041 | Sandaza | ||
8 November 2008 | Premier League | Tannadice | 9,490 | Mackie | Sandaza, Feeney | |
21 February 2009 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 14,673 | Severin, Diamond | Sandaza, D.Robertson | |
7 May 2009 | Premier League | Tannadice | 10,407 | L.Miller | Goodwillie | |
24 October 2009 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 11,776 | Casalinuovo, Gomis | ||
2 January 2010 | Premier League | Tannadice | 10,032 | Mulgrew | ||
20 March 2010 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 9,316 | Diamond, Paton | Daly (2) | |
11 September 2010 | Premier League | Tannadice | 9,793 | Vernon | Daly, og, Goodwillie | |
1 January 2011 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 12,487 | Maguire | Goodwillie | |
7 March 2011 | Premier League | Tannadice | 7,416 | Magennis | Douglas, Conway, Swanson | |
15 October 2011 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 10,256 | Árnason, Mawéné, Considine | Dalla Valle | |
2 January 2012 | Premier League | Tannadice | 11,471 | Chalali, Árnason | Daly | |
7 April 2012 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 8,439 | Mackie, Clark, Jack | Daly | |
20 October 2012 | Premier League | Tannadice | 9,858 | McGinn | Rankin | |
2 January 2013 | Premier League | Pittodrie | 13,176 | Vernon, McGinn | Gunning, og | |
6 April 2013 | Premier League | Tannadice | 8,577 | Boulding | ||
19 October 2013 | Premiership | Pittodrie | 12,654 | Zola | ||
1 January 2014 | Premiership | Tannadice | 12,601 | Robson, Pawlett | Souttar | |
29 March 2014 | Premiership | Pittodrie | 14,627 | McGinn | Paton | |
6 May 2014 | Premiership | Tannadice | 8,677 | Vernon (3) | Dillon | |
10 August 2014 | Premiership | Pittodrie | 16,471 | Dow, Mackay-Steven, Erskine | ||
13 December 2014 | Premiership | Tannadice | 11,196 | Rooney (2) | ||
31 January 2015 | League Cup SF | Hampden | 29,608 | Daniels | Morris, Ciftci | |
18 April 2015 | Premiership | Pittodrie | 12,619 | Rooney | ||
2 May 2015 | Premiership | Tannadice | 8,686 | Muirhead | ||
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