New Firm (Scotland)

The New Firm is the term used, hailing from the 1980s, to describe the rivalry between Scottish football clubs Aberdeen and Dundee United. Both clubs are located on the east coast of Scotland, in the third and fourth most populous cities respectively.

New Firm
LocaleNorth-east Scotland
TeamsAberdeen and Dundee Utd
Statistics
Meetings total236
Most winsAberdeen
Aberdeen
Dundee United

Although not traditionally a derby, with 65 miles separating both teams, the fixture was seen as a North-east of Scotland derby between the two most successful teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm during the 1980s. Dundee United also have a more traditional rivalry with their close neighbours Dundee.

History

The term originated in the 1980s, when both clubs challenged the Old Firm for domestic trophies.[1] The term was used by Evening Times and The Glasgow Herald.[2][3]

The Old Firm have more often than not been the dominant force in Scottish Football, however throughout the 1980s both Aberdeen and Dundee United were more than a match for them, regularly beating them home and away and winning many of the trophies on offer.

Aberdeen were to win the Scottish Premier Division three times, the Scottish Cup four times, the Scottish League Cup twice, the European Cup Winners' Cup and the European Super Cup, all within the 1980s. In this same period, Dundee United won the Scottish Premier Division once and the Scottish League Cup twice, as well as reaching the Scottish Cup final four times, the 1987 UEFA Cup Final, and the semi-final of the 1983–84 European Cup. Not only were the Old Firm not dominating the title race, but for three seasons in a row, 1983 through to 1985, the league title went to either Aberdeen or Dundee United, meaning for the first time two other teams were dominating Scottish Football.

Both sides' success was limited as they entered the 1990s, with Aberdeen winning both cups in 1989–90, reaching both finals in 1992–93, as well as almost winning the league in 1991, while Dundee United were Scottish Cup finalists in 1991 and finally winners in 1994. However, in the 1994–95 season both sides fought relegation (with United going down), and although Aberdeen won the Scottish League Cup in 1995 and Dundee United the Scottish Cup again in 2010, neither side has managed to be a consistent force for Rangers and Celtic to reckon with, and Aberdeen's league success in 1984–85 is the last time a non-Old Firm club won the Scottish league title.

Since 2010 however, the sides have seen a divergence in fortunes, as Aberdeen capitalised on Rangers' financial issues to win the Scottish League Cup in 2014 and finish runners-up behind Celtic for four years running between 2014–15 and 2017–18 (losing three cup finals to the same club in that period, while Dundee United were relegated from the top flight in 2016 having lost the 2014 Scottish Cup Final to a local rival, St Johnstone.

Domestic head-to-head

In domestic head-to-head matches, the teams have played each other 239 times, Aberdeen winning 96 compared to United's 76.[4] Aberdeen have won more league and Scottish Cup matches while United have won more League Cup matches between the two.

Given their mutual success particularly in the 1980s, it is perhaps surprising that the only major final featuring both clubs is the 1979–80 Scottish League Cup Final, won by Dundee United in a replay at Dens Park after a draw in Glasgow.

After 2 March 2016:[5][6]
TeamLeagueScottish CupLeague CupTotal
Aberdeen7611996
Draw539567
Dundee United5961176
Totals1882625239

League competition

Scottish Premiership Table (2013/14-present - 5 Seasons)

As of 16 May 2018:
Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen51901113049302191111363
Dundee United3114412251168176-8142

SPL Table (1998/99-2012/13 - 15 Seasons)

Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen15566188143235651785-134707
Dundee United15566173162231674845-171681

European competition
As of 9 August 2012:
TeamTPWDLFA
Dundee United26110463034168116
Aberdeen27109442837160130

Players at both clubs

Nine players have signed for Dundee United directly from Aberdeen, the last being in 2000. Ten have made the opposite journey from Tannadice to Pittodrie, with five since August 2005.

Complete list

In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.

Player records
A list of players to have scored in derby matches between the two from 27 August 1994 up to 2 May 2015 is below:

Partial game list

Fixtures from 27 August 1994 to the present day featuring League games, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches.[26][27] Aberdeen wins are coloured in red, United wins in tangerine and draws are grey.

DateCompetitionVenueResultCrowdScorers (Aberdeen)Scorers (United)
27 August 1994Premier DivisionTannadice
2–1
9,332GrantWelsh, Brewster
29 October 1994Premier DivisionPittodrie
3–0
11,744Kane (2), Booth
2 January 1995Premier DivisionTannadice
0–0
10,560
6 May 1995Premier DivisionPittodrie
2–1
20,124Dodds, ShearerWinters
28 September 1996Premier DivisionTannadice
1–0
10,359McSwegan
16 November 1996Premier DivisionPittodrie
3–3
13,807Kiriakov, Kombouaré, DoddsMcLaren, Winters, Olofsson
1 January 1997Premier DivisionTannadice
4–0
9,736Winters, Pressley (2), Olofsson
15 March 1997Premier DivisionPittodrie
1–1
13,645WindassOlofsson
30 August 1997Premier DivisionPittodrie
1–1
12,060DoddsWinters
15 October 1997League Cup SFTynecastle
1–3
10,456WindassWinters (2), Easton
9 November 1997Premier DivisionTannadice
5–0
7,893Olofsson (2), Zetterlund, McLaren, Easton
3 January 1998Premier DivisionPittodrie
1–0
17,025Windass
24 January 1998Scottish Cup R3Tannadice
1–0
11,488Winters
11 April 1998Premier DivisionTannadice
0–0
9,155
4 October 1998Premier LeagueTannadice
1–0
8,933McSwegan
28 November 1998Premier LeaguePittodrie
0–3
11,964Olofsson, J.Miller, Easton
20 February 1999Premier LeagueTannadice
3–0
8,309Olofsson, Dodds, Hannah
17 April 1999Premier LeaguePittodrie
0–4
11,603Dodds (2), J.Miller, Olofsson
18 September 1999Premier LeaguePittodrie
1–2
11,814DowHannah, Dodds
6 November 1999Premier LeagueTannadice
3–1
8,170SolbergDodds (2), Paterson
27 December 1999Premier LeaguePittodrie
3–1
16,656Zerouali, Belabed, StavrumHannah
13 February 2000League Cup SFDens
1–0
9,500Stavrum
12 March 2000Scottish Cup QFTannadice
0–1
6,738Jess
25 March 2000Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
6,723StavrumFerraz
23 September 2000Premier LeagueTannadice
3–5
7,699Winters (3), Young, JessEaston, McConalogue, Hannah
17 March 2001Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
8,457WintersC.Miller
4 April 2001Premier LeaguePittodrie
4–1
9,962Stavrum (3), YoungGriffin
20 May 2001Premier LeaguePittodrie
1–2
11,633StavrumVenetis, Lilley
15 September 2001Premier LeaguePittodrie
2–1
12,948Winters, ZeroualiMcIntyre
15 December 2001Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
9,129WintersEaston
16 February 2002Premier LeaguePittodrie
4–0
13,612Winters, Young (2), Mike
11 September 2002Premier LeaguePittodrie
1–2
10,724MackieThompson (2)
30 November 2002Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
8,621McGuireHamilton
16 February 2003Premier LeaguePittodrie
3–0
9,146Sheerin (2), McGuire
24 May 2003Premier LeagueTannadice
0–2
8,516Mackie, Tosh
18 October 2003Premier LeaguePittodrie
0–1
11,234McLaren
17 January 2004Premier LeagueTannadice
3–2
8,888Booth, ClarkRobson, C.Miller, Dodds
3 April 2004Premier LeaguePittodrie
3–0
8,449Hinds, McGuire, Sheerin
11 September 2004Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
10,995MackieWilson
27 November 2004Premier LeaguePittodrie
1–0
12,038Tosh
27 February 2005Scottish Cup QFTannadice
4–1
8,661ByrneArchibald, Grady (2), Crawford
2 March 2005Premier LeagueTannadice
1–2
6,688Diamond, StewartScotland
30 July 2005Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
12,404NicholsonL.Miller
25 October 2005Premier LeaguePittodrie
2–0
10,720Smith, Crawford
7 January 2006Scottish Cup R3Tannadice
2–3
8,218Crawford (2), NicholsonFernandez (2)
21 January 2006Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
9,936MackieArchibald
21 October 2006Premier LeaguePittodrie
3–1
10,747Mackie, Nicholson (2)Robson
30 December 2006Premier LeagueTannadice
3–1
12,329SeverinSamuel (2), Robson
7 April 2007Premier LeaguePittodrie
2–4
12,148Lovell, MackieDaly, Hunt, Cameron (2)
4 August 2007Premier LeagueTannadice
1–0
12,496D.Robertson
3 November 2007Premier LeaguePittodrie
2–0
11,964Aluko, L.Miller
19 January 2008Premier LeagueTannadice
3–0
8,579Hunt, Robson (2)
5 February 2008League Cup SFTynecastle
1–4
12,046ConsidineDods, Kalvenes, Conway, Gomis
3 May 2008Premier LeaguePittodrie
2–1
10,312Foster, TouzaniSwanson
20 September 2008Premier LeaguePittodrie
0–1
11,041Sandaza
8 November 2008Premier LeagueTannadice
2–1
9,490MackieSandaza, Feeney
21 February 2009Premier LeaguePittodrie
2–2
14,673Severin, DiamondSandaza, D.Robertson
7 May 2009Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
10,407L.MillerGoodwillie
24 October 2009Premier LeaguePittodrie
0–2
11,776Casalinuovo, Gomis
2 January 2010Premier LeagueTannadice
0–1
10,032Mulgrew
20 March 2010Premier LeaguePittodrie
2–2
9,316Diamond, PatonDaly (2)
11 September 2010Premier LeagueTannadice
3–1
9,793VernonDaly, og, Goodwillie
1 January 2011Premier LeaguePittodrie
1–1
12,487MaguireGoodwillie
7 March 2011Premier LeagueTannadice
3–1
7,416MagennisDouglas, Conway, Swanson
15 October 2011Premier LeaguePittodrie
3–1
10,256Árnason, Mawéné, ConsidineDalla Valle
2 January 2012Premier LeagueTannadice
1–2
11,471Chalali, ÁrnasonDaly
7 April 2012Premier LeaguePittodrie
3–1
8,439Mackie, Clark, JackDaly
20 October 2012Premier LeagueTannadice
1–1
9,858McGinnRankin
2 January 2013Premier LeaguePittodrie
2–2
13,176Vernon, McGinnGunning, og
6 April 2013Premier LeagueTannadice
1–0
8,577Boulding
19 October 2013PremiershipPittodrie
1–0
12,654Zola
1 January 2014PremiershipTannadice
1–2
12,601Robson, PawlettSouttar
29 March 2014PremiershipPittodrie
1–1
14,627McGinnPaton
6 May 2014PremiershipTannadice
1–3
8,677Vernon (3)Dillon
10 August 2014PremiershipPittodrie
0–3
16,471Dow, Mackay-Steven, Erskine
13 December 2014PremiershipTannadice
0–2
11,196Rooney (2)
31 January 2015League Cup SFHampden
2–1
29,608DanielsMorris, Ciftci
18 April 2015PremiershipPittodrie
1–0
12,619Rooney
2 May 2015PremiershipTannadice
1–0
8,686Muirhead
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