Munich derby

The Munich derby (German: Münchner Stadtderby) is the name given to football matches between FC Bayern Munich and TSV 1860 Munich, both of them from Munich, Germany.[3][4]

Munich derby
Other namesMünchner Stadtderby
Münchner Lokalderby
LocaleMunich, Germany
TeamsBayern & 1860
First meetingBayern 3–0 1860[1]
(21 September 1902 (1902-09-21))
Latest meetingBayern 2 2–1 1860
(24 June 2020 (2020-06-24))
Next meeting-
StadiumsGrünwalder Stadion
Olympiastadion
Allianz Arena
Statistics
Meetings total205
Most winsBayern (105)
All-time seriesBayern: 105
Drawn: 50
1860: 50
Largest victory1860 8–0 Bayern[2]
(22 December 1918 (1918-12-22))
DFB-Pokal Quarter-Final 2008 Bayern against 1860 in Allianz Arena.

History

Early years (1902–1933)

Although the TSV has existed since 1860, a football section was founded in 1899. In contrast, Bayern was founded by members of a Munich gymnastics club. The first ever Munich derby was contested in September 1902. In the first years, Bayern mainly won the derbies. However, since football in Germany was organised on a very regional level in this time, the rivalry was not very pronounced since both team played against many other Munich-based teams such as FC Wacker München or 1. Münchner FC 1896. At the end of this period, both clubs became more and more successful: 1860 entered the final of the German football championship in 1931 (but lost against Hertha BSC) and Bayern won against Eintracht Frankfurt one year later. In 1933, 1860 reached the final of the Southern German championship.

The Nazi period (1933–1945)

With beginning of the Nazi era in Germany, both clubs were put in the newly founded Gauliga Bayern. In this period, Bayern suffered because many Jewish members, such as Kurt Landauer were forced to leave the club. In contrast, 1860 was less affected by the enforcement of the Aryan paragraph. Particularly during the war time, 1860 became successful: They won their first national trophy the Tschammerpokal (today known as the German Cup) in 1942. 1860 returned to the national playoffs in 1943, reaching the quarter-finals.

Increasing rivalry (1945–1963)

After the end of the second World War, football quickly became popular again in the population. Already in 1945, the American allied administration allowed the foundation of the Oberliga Süd. As this league, in contrast to the previous Gauliga Bayern, also included teams from Hesse and Baden-Württemberg, Bayern and 1860 became the only two clubs from Munich which resulted in an increased rivalry. Other Munich-based teams declined in importance. In this period, both teams could hardly point to successes with the exception of Bayern's victory in the 1957 German Cup.

Struggle for domination (1963–1970)

The regulations by the German football federation for the inaugural Bundesliga season stipulated that only one team from one city should be promoted. Due to opaque rules, Bayern instead of 1860 was forced to play in the second tier. 1860 won the German Cup in this season, followed by a successful European campaign leading to European Cup Winners' Cup final which was lost again West Ham United. In Bayern's season of promotion Munich became the football capital of Germany: 1860 clinched their first Bundesliga title whereas Bayern won the German Cup final. After that, the conditions began to turn: While 1860 gained the second place in the Bundesliga, Bayern defended the German Cup and won the European Cup Winners' Cup in Nuremberg. In 1969, Bayern captured their first German double whereas 1860 slipped to the 10th position. One year later, 1860 relegated from the Bundesliga.

Bayern's golden years, 1860's decline (1970–1994)

With 1860's relegation, the relative strengths now completely turned to Bayern. After moving from Grünwalder Stadion to the much larger Olympiastadion, Bayern's golden years began. Three German championships (1972–1974) followed by three victorious European campaigns (1974–1976) marked the most successful period in Bayern's history. While Bayern became established in the Bundesliga, 1860 became a yo-yo club. Until 1999, the last derby won by 1860 was in 1977. Even in the frequently played friendlies, Bayern mostly kept the upper hand.

Bundesliga return of 1860 (1994–2004)

After 13 years mainly spent in the Bayernliga, 1860 promoted again to the top flight in 1994. In the previous season, Bayern clinched their 13th Bundesliga title. In 1999, 1860 won their first derby since 22 years. After also the return match was won, Bayern regained its leadership role again with some very high wins (5–1 in 2001 and 5–0 in 2003). Due to the successful application of the German football federation for the 2006 FIFA World Cup in June 2000, both club's forced the idea of ground-share in a new stadium.

Ground-sharing in the Allianz Arena (2005–2017)

One year before the clubs moved to the Allianz Arena, 1860 relegated to the 2. Fußball-Bundesliga again. Since then, in addition to three friendly matches, only one competitive game was held. Just one day before the match was held, unknown Bayern fans painted parts of the Grünwalder Stadion, 1860 traditional home stadium, in the club colors of Bayern, red and white.

Inside Allianz Arena during a match between Bayern Munich and 1860 Munich, 10 June 2005

Munich 1860 were relegated to 3. Liga at the conclusion of the 2016-17 season.[5]

1860's Return to Grünwalder Stadion (2017–)

On 2 June 2017, it was announced that 1860 were unable to obtain a 3. Liga license for the 2017–18 season as a result of investor Hassan Ismaik's unwillingness to pay the necessary fees. As a result, the club was relegated to the Regionalliga Bayern for the 2017–18 season.[6] Following these events, which meant that Bayern Munich would be ground sharing with the now amateur status 1860, on July 12, 2017 Bayern Munich announced that the ground sharing arrangement with 1860 had come to an end.[7] Shortly thereafter, Munich 1860 announced that the club would return to its traditional grounds at Stadion an der Grünwalder Straße for the 2017-18 season. Following relegation to the Regionalliga, 1860 will play matches with FC Bayern Munich II.[8]

All-time results

  Bayern Munich Win   1860 Munich Win   Draw

No. Home Date Venue Score Competition Attendance
1 21 September 1902 Sportplatz Clemensstraße
3–0
 Münchner Stadtmeisterschaft
2 1 November 1903 Schyrenwiese
2–0
 Friendly
3 12 November 1905
1–0
 Münchner Stadtmeisterschaft
123 28 September 1952 Grünwalder Stadion
2–1
 Oberliga Süd
12,000
124 8 February 1953 Grünwalder Stadion
2–2
 Oberliga Süd
17,000
125 18 April 1954 Grünwalder Stadion
2–2
 Friendly
6,000
126 2 January 1955 Grünwalder Stadion
2–2
 Friendly
20,000
127 13 August 1955 Grünwalder Stadion
1–3
 Friendly
128 26 Dezember 1956 Grünwalder Stadion
1–2
 Friendly
12,000
129 15 September 1957 Grünwalder Stadion
3–3
 Oberliga Süd
40,000
130 18 January 1958 Grünwalder Stadion
4–3
 Oberliga Süd
40,000
131 20 September 1958 Grünwalder Stadion
1–2
 Oberliga Süd
32,000
132 21 February 1959 Grünwalder Stadion
1–2
 Oberliga Süd
35,000
133 12 April 1959 Grünwalder Stadion
0–0
 DFB-Pokal
20,000
134 22 April 1959 Grünwalder Stadion
0–0
 DFB-Pokal
17,000
135 27 September 1959 Grünwalder Stadion
4–6
 Oberliga Süd
32,000
136 18 April 1960 Grünwalder Stadion
1–3
 Oberliga Süd
15,000
137 18 April 1960 Grünwalder Stadion
4–1
 Friendly
15,000
138 18 September 1960 Grünwalder Stadion
0–0
 Oberliga Süd
28,000
139 29 January 1961 Grünwalder Stadion
6–2
 Oberliga Süd
25,000
140 10 September 1961 Grünwalder Stadion
0–4
 Oberliga Süd
28,000
141 28 January 1962 Grünwalder Stadion
2–3
 Oberliga Süd
35,000
142 8 May 1962 Grünwalder Stadion
1–3
 Friendly
143 23 September 1962 Grünwalder Stadion
3–1
 Oberliga Süd
45,000
144 3 February 1963 Grünwalder Stadion
3–1
 Oberliga Süd
38,000
145 25 September 1963 Grünwalder Stadion
3–2
 Friendly
7,000
146 5 August 1964 Grünwalder Stadion
4–2
 Friendly
147 14 August 1965 Grünwalder Stadion
1–0
 Bundesliga
44,000
148 14 January 1966 Grünwalder Stadion
3–0
 Bundesliga
40,000
149 15 October 1966 Grünwalder Stadion
3–0
 Bundesliga
44,000
150 18 March 1967 Grünwalder Stadion
1–0
 Bundesliga
44,000
151 1 April 1967 Grünwalder Stadion
3–1
 DFB-Pokal
42,000
152 28 October 1967 Grünwalder Stadion
2–2
 Bundesliga
44,000
153 30 March 1968 Grünwalder Stadion
3–2
 Bundesliga
44,000
154 24 August 1968 Grünwalder Stadion
0–3
 Bundesliga
44,000
155 18 January 1969 Grünwalder Stadion
0–2
 Bundesliga
38,000
156 18 October 1969 Grünwalder Stadion
2–0
 Bundesliga
40,500
157 7 March 1970 Grünwalder Stadion
2–1
 Bundesliga
44,000
158 6 August 1971 Grünwalder Stadion
1–7
 Friendly
36,000
159 3 August 1972 Olympiastadion
1–3
 Ligapokal
79,000
160 23 August 1972 Grünwalder Stadion
5–3
 Ligapokal
23,000
161 25 July 1973 Olympiastadion
3–0
 Friendly
46,000
162 25 July 1975 Olympiastadion
3–0
 Friendly
57,000
163 3 August 1976 Olympiastadion
1–0
 Friendly
40,000
164 27 July 1977 Olympiastadion
2–1
 Friendly
67,000
165 12 November 1977 Olympiastadion
1–3
 Bundesliga
77,000
166 8 April 1978 Olympiastadion
1–1
 Bundesliga
60,300
167 19 July 1978 Olympiastadion
2–2
 Friendly
48,000
168 27 March 1979 Grünwalder Stadion
1–1
 Friendly
26,000
169 25 July 1979 Olympiastadion
3–0
 Friendly
68,000
170 17 November 1979 Olympiastadion
1–2
 Bundesliga
78,000
171 10 May 1980 Olympiastadion
6–1
 Bundesliga
77,500
172 22 July 1980 Olympiastadion
2–3
 Friendly
35,000
173 14 October 1980 Olympiastadion
1–3
 Bundesliga
53,000
174 28 March 1981 Olympiastadion
1–1
 Bundesliga
63,000
175 23 July 1981 Olympiastadion
1–1
 Friendly
25,000
176 9 August 1983 Olympiastadion
5–0
 Friendly
17,000
177 30 September 1984 Grünwalder Stadion
1–5
 Friendly
3,500
178 16 July 1991 Olympiastadion
0–0
 Friendly
40,000
179 6 April 1992 Grünwalder Stadion
1–4
 Friendly
7,000
180 21 September 1994 Olympiastadion
1–3
 Bundesliga
64,000
181 25 March 1995 Olympiastadion
1–0
 Bundesliga
63,000
182 2 September 1995 Olympiastadion
0–2
 Bundesliga
70,800
183 2 March 1996 Olympiastadion
4–2
 Bundesliga
69,000
184 1 November 1996 Olympiastadion
1–1
 Bundesliga
69,000
185 4 May 1997 Olympiastadion
3–3
 Bundesliga
69,000
186 1 November 1997 Olympiastadion
2–2
 Bundesliga
69,900
187 11 April 1998 Olympiastadion
3–1
 Bundesliga
69,000
188 7 November 1998 Olympiastadion
3–1
 Bundesliga
69,000
189 25 April 1999 Olympiastadion
1–1
 Bundesliga
69,000
190 27 November 1999 Olympiastadion
1–0
 Bundesliga
69,000
191 15 April 2000 Olympiastadion
1–2
 Bundesliga
69,000
192 21 October 2000 Olympiastadion
3–1
 Bundesliga
69,000
193 17 March 2001 Olympiastadion
0–2
 Bundesliga
69,000
194 13 October 2001 Olympiastadion
1–5
 Bundesliga
69,000
195 9 March 2002 Olympiastadion
2–1
 Bundesliga
68,000
196 10 September 2002 Olympiastadion
3–1
 Bundesliga
69,000
197 15 February 2003 Olympiastadion
0–5
 Bundesliga
64,000
198 22 November 2003 Olympiastadion
0–1
 Bundesliga
69,000
199 25 April 2004 Olympiastadion
1–0
 Bundesliga
71,000[9]
200 19 July 2004 Olympiastadion
1–0
 Friendly
10,000
201 2 June 2005 Allianz Arena
1–0
 Friendly
64,000
202 8 August 2006 Allianz Arena
0–3
 Friendly
203 26 January 2008 Allianz Arena
1–1
 Friendly
66,000
204 27 February 2008 Allianz Arena
1–0
 DFB-Pokal
69,000[10]

Overall match statistics
Statistics Bayern-1860 in Official match and friendly match[11]
Competition Bayern
Wins		 Draws 1860
Wins		 Total
Bundesliga237838
Oberliga Süd137828
Bezirksliga77620
Stadtmeisterschaft1012
A-Klasse8109
Gau4217
Gauliga127524
Gaumeisterschaft3238
Kreisliga3339
Ostkreisliga5106
Süddeutsche Meisterschaft2024
DFB-Pokal2204
DFB-Ligapokal2002
Münchner pokal0022
Süddeutscher pokal1102
Friendly match18101139
Total1045050204

Results involving reserve teams

With the two senior teams playing in different leagues the meetings between the two reserve sides of the clubs, nowadays in the tier four Regionalliga Bayern, have received increased attention.[12][13] The most recent derbies have attracted almost capacity crowds of 12,500 in the Grünwalder Stadium, but also made heavy police presence necessary to deal with the rival fan fractions.[14][15][16] The games have also, on occasion, been broadcast live on television.[17]

The games of the reserve sides of the two clubs since the introduction of the Regionalligas in 1994:[18]

Season League Teams Home Away
1997–98 Regionalliga Süd (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
2–2
1–3
1998–99 Regionalliga Süd FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
3–1
1–0
1999–2000 Regionalliga Süd FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
1–3
3–4
2000–01 Regionalliga Süd FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
0–0
3–0
2004–05 Regionalliga Süd FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
4–2
1–1
2005–06 Regionalliga Süd FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
1–0
2–2
Bavarian Cup FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
2–4
2006–07 Regionalliga Süd FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
1–1
1–1
2007–08 Regionalliga Süd FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
1–0
2–3
2011–12 Regionalliga Süd (IV) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
1–2
1–0
2012–13 Regionalliga Bayern (IV) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
0–1
2–0
2013–14 Regionalliga Bayern FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
2–0
1–2
2014–15 Regionalliga Bayern FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
1–0
3–1
2015–16 Regionalliga Bayern FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
0–0
0–2
2016–17 Regionalliga Bayern FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich II
0–0
0–2

The games between first team of 1860 Munich and reserve side of Bayern Munich:

Season League Teams Home Away
1982–83 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
0–2
1–1
1982–83 DFB Pokal_R2 FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
0–1
1983–84 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
0–0
0–2
1984–85 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
1–1
1–1
1985–86 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
2–2
0–2
1986–87 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
1–1
2–2
FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich (play-off for 2nd place)
3–0
1987–88 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
2–1
1–2
1988–89 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
3–3
2–1
1989–90 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
2–2
0–3
1990–91 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
0–2
0–1
1992–93 Bayernliga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
1–1
0–1
2017–18 Regionalliga Bayern (IV) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
1–0
3–1
2019–20 3. Liga (III) FC Bayern Munich II – TSV 1860 Munich
1–1
2-1
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