Doubts Even Here

"Doubts Even Here", originally called "Tiny Tim" [6], is the seventh track of eight on New Order's debut album Movement, released on November 13, 1981. After the death of Joy Division singer Ian Curtis, the surviving members formed New Order with drummer Stephen Morris's girlfriend Gillian Gilbert joining five months later. This led to a dispute over who should fill Curtis' shoes with the lead vocalist role. All three male members were in contention, but due to Bernard Sumner's voice being significantly different from Curtis', New Order opted for him to take the role, wanting New Order's sound to be different from Joy Division's. Ironically with this new vocalist, in addition to "Dreams Never End", the track “Doubts Even Here” on the first album recorded by New Order, Movement, is sung by bassist Peter Hook with spoken contributions by Gillian Gilbert. The song starts off with an array of electronic percussion noises before slow synth and bass riffs enter, which eventually pick up speed later in the song[7]. The lyrics were written by Stephen Morris. The song has not been performed live since a few performances in 1981. [8]

"Doubts Even Here"
Song by New Order
from the album Movement
Released13 November 1981 (1981-11-13)
Recorded
Genre
[2]Dark Wave[3]New wave[4]
Length4:16
LabelFactory
Songwriter(s)
Producer(s)New Order

Official versions
  • Album version – 4:16

Remixes
  • "Doubts Even Here" (Razed Club Mix) (unofficial remix by Razed in a New Division of Agony) – 4:32

Covers by other artists
  • Harry on Essence (New Order Tribute) – 3:46
  • Phantom West on Community 2: A NewOrderOnline Tribute – 4:18
  • Philip Eno as an entry for the Community 2 contest – 4:02
  • Razed in a New Division of Agony on Ceremony: A New Order Tribute and their upcoming debut album – 4:33
  • Vibrissae on Dreams Never End - A Tribute to New Order – 6:00
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References
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  2. "New Order Back Catalogue Reissues". The Quietus. Retrieved 6 November 2016.
  3. "Adrian's Album Reviews New Order". Adrian's Album Reviews. Retrieved 6 November 2016.
  4. "Doubts Even Here". AllMusic. Rovi Corporation. Retrieved 6 November 2016.
  5. "Movement - New Order Songs, Reviews, Credits AllMusic". allmusic.com. Retrieved 6 November 2016.
  6. "New Order: 10 of the best". The Guardian. Retrieved 6 November 2016.}
  7. "Doubts Even Here". NewOrderTracks. WordPress. 7 March 2016. Retrieved 6 November 2016.
  8. "New Order: 10 of the best". The Guardian. Retrieved 6 November 2016.}
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