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gollark: Now, all humans are approximately bee density maximizers.

gollark: As a hypothetical bee density maximizer, it is obvious that I would not in fact want to die, since this would reduce future bee density; even though my future bee-density-maximizing self, due to not existing, would not be around to care, since I care about future things (or, well, estimations of future things?), it would be incorrect to die, as this would reduce estimated future bee density.

gollark: Yes it is. Their argument is wrong and bad.

gollark: But I don't want to do that, because it would unsatisfy those worldly goals.

gollark: Dying would not maximize bee density.

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