Can gigabit ethernet Auto-negotiation detect Cat5 cable and downgrade the mode automatically?

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Under a Win7 PC with gigabit NIC connected to a gigabit switch, both NIC and the switch support 1000BASE-T full duplex mode, however it is connected by a Cat5 cable.

Since both devices support 1000Base-T, will they use 1G bps or they somehow know that it is a cat5 cable and therefore they both use 100Mbps. If yes, how the auto-negotiation knows it is a cat5?

Finally, is the network status shown in win7 indicating the mode they are using in that PHY layer (e.g. Speed: 1Gbps or 100Mbps)?

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palazzo train

Posted 2014-12-31T06:13:54.770

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Use Cat6 Patch Cables? – STTR – 2014-12-31T06:48:27.630

I want to know is Win7 or auto-negotiation know what type of cable I use. So the doubt is when they are cat5 connected will it be displaying 100Mbps and when cat6 connected be it 1Gbps displayed – palazzo train – 2014-12-31T07:04:12.800

Cable cannot negotiate. If you use cable that can't work reliably at gigabit speeds, it's possible to get poor performance and unreliable operation. – David Schwartz – 2014-12-31T09:01:05.977

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Gigabit ethernet auto-negotiation can't detect the cable type. But as a result of low quality the finally negotiated speed may be 100mbit, even when all components are capable of 1gb.

1gb over cat5(e) is working when all 8 wires are used by the plugs and all of them have contact in the sockets. If one of the wires aren't connected from PC to switch it may recognize only 100mbit.

1gb needs all 8 wires, 100mb needs only 4 wires.

Failing 1gb Negotiation
For speed negotiation both sides send bit patterns. If you have a really poor quality of cables or plugs, then already this negotiation may fail, even when all 8 wires are connected. This may be caused by e.g. magnetic induction due to any kind of alternating current in the near and faulty shielding.

Also electrical potential differences may cause this, when one or both sides are ungrounded and there persists a high electrical potential difference.

But mostly effects like this are caused through faulty contacts or the port speed in manageable switches is manually set to 100mbit.

marsh-wiggle

Posted 2014-12-31T06:13:54.770

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The "Failing 1gb Negotiation" part is really what i wanted to know. Thanks. – palazzo train – 2015-01-02T03:40:41.543

Note that it is not guaranteed and you would be foolish to rely on it. – David Schwartz – 2017-07-26T22:08:44.857

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It wouldn't need to. For regular use cat5 and cat5e work perfectly fine for gigabit ethernet, and cat6/cat6A is only really needed for 10gbe base T ethernet. I suspect the whole premise of this question is somewhat incorrect.

I have seen gig-e adaptors downthrottle to base10T ethernet speeds with non standard 2 pair cat 5 cables, but I'm pretty certain, but theoratically and empirically that cat 5 works with gigabit ethernet.

You've definately downthrottled, and are running at 100Mbps line speeds, but your problem is likely not due to using to spec cat 5 cables. I suspect the trouble would be somewhere else.

Journeyman Geek

Posted 2014-12-31T06:13:54.770

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