PC connecting on the middle of ethernet cable

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I have a 4-5 meter long UTP cable from my router to a wall socket (socket A) which works fine.

Original setup:

          4-5 meter cable            
Router ------------------- Socket A 

The original setup worked fine.


I wanted to extend this cable to another wall socket so I used a 4 meter long cable. I connected its pin to the existing socket (A) whithout removing the existing connections and mounted the other end of the cable to socket B. I did a straigth through wiring from A to B, checked with a multimeter and measured 0 ohm betwen end of wires although for some wires I measured a 4-5 ohm (don't know why). I did measuring right from the socket pins.

New setup:

        4-5 meter cable                  Added second cable
Router ------------------- Socket A -------------------------- Socket B

                           Now fails                           Works

My problem is that if I connect a PC to socket B then the network works fine. If I connect the PC to socket A the network icon in Windows even doesn't display that a valid connection is present.


Is there any restriction that I cannot fork from the middle of an existing cabling to connect my network device? Or simply I did some mistake in mounting the wires to the socket A, that's why my network connection does not work from socket A ?

Of course I don't plan to use two network devices simoultaneousely on socket A and B but thought that can use or on socket A or on B.

wildfrontier

Posted 2014-01-02T08:37:01.410

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Answers

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No, you can't (reliably) do what you've done. First off, there is no standard punchdown block (or otherwise), so I am guessing you are using a screw terminal block? That is not rated for CAT5(e), twists are not maintained. You might be able to get away with it for awhile though, but I wouldn't bother.

It's my understanding that by having a lengthy unterminated wire hanging off your network you will introduce problems where the signal will bounce off the end, potentially causing destructive interference, much like the thinnet coax days.

Buy some punch down jacks and a 1ft jumper and simply unplug the end not in use, or better yet pick up a cheap switch. (It's probably just as cheap as the punch down jacks these days...)

Brad

Posted 2014-01-02T08:37:01.410

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OK, I'm using Legrand's RJ45 connector: – wildfrontier – 2014-01-03T10:33:16.927

and I'm introducing both wires in the hole: the incoming and the outcoming wires. I'm talking about socket A. – wildfrontier – 2014-01-03T10:34:56.983

You can't punchdown multiple wires per slot. They probably won't even make a connection. – Brad – 2014-01-03T10:36:26.397

So let's say if I don't need a 1GB/s wiring is that possible that I use only 2 pairs from the incoming wire in socket A and will use the other 2 pairs for socket B ? Of course I will split accordingly the 2-2 pairs at the router side of the incoming wire.. What I read is that for 10/100 BaseT configuration only 2 pairs are used from the 4. – wildfrontier – 2014-01-03T10:39:21.360

Yeah, you should be able to get away with that configuration. Pins 1/2 and 3/6 for device A and 4/5 and 7/8 for device B. You're effectively making two cables out of the unused pins in one. You'll need to terminate properly though. Also, if you have crosstalk problems, try cranking it down to 10mbit half duplex. – Brad – 2014-01-03T10:41:36.783

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Ethernet wiring is not like analog telephone wiring. Unlike telephone wiring, you can't daisy chain from the back of one Ethernet wall jack to another Ethernet wall jack, even if you don't plan on using both wall jacks at the same time. That kind of splice doesn't simply doesn't guarantee the signal integrity required by 1000BASE-T (gigabit Ethernet).

If you get the twisted pairs right and your distance isn't that long, you might get lucky and it might just happen to work, but you're not following the standard/specification (the rules that are designed to guarantee success).

Spiff

Posted 2014-01-02T08:37:01.410

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