This might seem a stupid question but why do Ethernet cables have 8 wires? Cat5 cables were just using 4 of the 8 wires, so only 4 are actualy 'needed'. Why not 12 or 16 wires?
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There are ethernet cables with more than 8 cores (4 pairs). – HaydnWVN Nov 16 '12 at 14:05
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40Remember, Ethernet is not a type of cable! – Dan Nov 16 '12 at 14:10
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@Dan, it is a networking standard that specifies, among other things, the types of cable to use. – psusi Nov 16 '12 at 16:31
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9@psusi Fiber can be Ethernet, 10base-2 is Ethernet. – Zoredache Nov 16 '12 at 16:43
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@Zoredache, yes... and a cable with 4 wires or 12 wires is not. – psusi Nov 16 '12 at 16:47
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4Ethernet is an umbrella consisting of a complex body of standards with a long history. The original Ethernet used a two-conductor transmission line, shared by all the nodes. Gigabit Ethernet (over copper) requires multiple transmission lines, each of which is a separate pair. – Kaz Nov 16 '12 at 18:03
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Because Category 5 Telephone communications cabling was spec'd to have 4 pairs. Back in the day, Ethernet did not run over twisted pair. It was adapted to run over twisted pair phone wiring (CAT4) and CAT5 was developed as an upgrade to allow for 100MBit ethernet. In fact 2 pairs could be used for Phone/Fax and the remaining pairs for Ethernet. Finally with Gigabit Ethernet, are all 4 pairs of a preexisting telephone cable spec used for computer networking. – Fiasco Labs Sep 07 '13 at 00:24
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This is an interesting question since I've never seen anything that authoritatively states the design decisions behind that choice. Everything that I've come across, whether on the Interwebs or from conversation with people smarter than me in this area, seem to indicate two possibilities:
- Future proofing
- Extra shielding
Future Proofing
By the time of the Cat5 spec we had seen the explosion of data cable runs. Telephone had been using Cat3, or something similar for some time, serial connections had been run throughout University campuses, ThickNet had spidered its way around, ThinNet had started to see significant use in microcomputer labs and in some cases offices. It was obvious that networking computing equipment was the wave of the future. We had also learned the terrible costs of changing out cabling to meet the demands of longer segments or higher speeds. Let's face it, replacing cabling is a nightmarish chore and expensive.
The notion of limiting this cost by developing a cable that could be run, and left in place for some length of time, was definitely an appealing one. So forward thinking engineers, who were probably tired of replacing wiring, could easily have found it worthwhile to design extra pairs into the spec. After all, especially at a time when the price of bulk copper was relatively low. Which is more expensive - adding 4 extra wires or having a team of people remove old wiring and add new?
Extra Shielding
Since typical Cat5 is UTP (unshielded twisted pair) it does not contain the extra grounded foil to slough off the extraneous electro-magnetic interference. It has been described to me that, when properly grounded, the unused wires will help buffer the in-use pairs in a similar, albeit less effective way, than actual shielding. This could have been an important feature in the long runs and (electrically) noisy environments we were accustomed to running cabling at the time.
To me the future proofing argument is the most compelling.
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And I would say the future proofing argument worked. Cat5E can carry gigabit signals by utilizing all of the pairs :) – Earlz Nov 16 '12 at 16:06
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@Earlz, that is Cat5E though, not Cat5, so the future proofing didn't work. – psusi Nov 16 '12 at 16:30
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5@psusi: Well, really the only difference (that I know of) between 5 and 5e are the manufacturing tolerances that guarantee higher frequencies. I wonder what the real life maximum throughputs are. That would require a lot of cables and busy work. If anyone else wants to do the work I would *love* to read it. – Scott Pack Nov 16 '12 at 16:40
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@Kaz: I think the underlying assumption is that any electrical noise will affect the signal-pairs and the unused-pairs equally, so you could "subtract" whatever's on an unused-pair from a signal-pair to make your signal clearer. – nickgrim Nov 16 '12 at 19:56
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@nickgrim: Mebbe, I would have to defer to an electrical engineer on the topic. In my opinion it is the lesser of the two arguments I've typically heard. – Scott Pack Nov 16 '12 at 20:26
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What you're talking about there is a balanced line. If a conductor is being used as the other half of a balanced line, then it is in fact "in use". (It will work: balanced lines do not both have to carry signal, just the difference between them has to carry the signal. But both have to be differentially amplified.) – Kaz Nov 16 '12 at 22:29
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1original spec was to also carry phone over the same connector. Remember voice calls were still a big feature of office life when UTP-ethernet was designed – Martin Beckett Nov 17 '12 at 00:25
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1@Kax unused wires will help prevent noise. [80-pin IDE cables are actually 40 wires to carry data separates by 40 wires to try to reduce interference](http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_40_pin_and_a_80_pin_EIDE_connector_cable&altQ=What_80_to_40_pin_connector). – Ian Boyd Nov 18 '12 at 01:30
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@ScottPack Strictly speaking Cat5e has more stringent requirements. On the other hand, *Gigabit* ethernet (1000BASE-T) uses **all** four pairs of wires in a Cat5e cable. So it's fortunate that Ethernet already specified 8-wire cables, sockets, connectors, etc. (i.e. future expansion) – Ian Boyd Nov 18 '12 at 01:34
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Have successfully run gigabit connections over older CAT5 cable (laid in 2001) at a distance of appox 60m. No signal loss/drop in speed/lost packets after many months of use. – HaydnWVN Jul 18 '13 at 10:45
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@HaydnWVN: I've certainly run GigE over Cat5 as well. I've also had it not work. The Cat5 spec was a little...let's say more tolerant. Some manufacturers made Cat5 spec cables that could do GigE, some didn't. Hell, at one time I had Cat5 spec patch cables that were only 2-pair! – Scott Pack Jul 18 '13 at 13:31
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I think you guys are over looking a simple motivation, what happens when you get a short on a line buried in the wall that would cost literally thousands of dollars to replace? Popping open a jack and swapping to an unused pair, or pulling the unused pairs from another cable to repair a downed jack in the CEO's office was simpler then replacing a flat out un-accessible wire. i don't feel the intention was ever to use the extra pairs for phones, or extra devices and services, and was solely for creating a more robust and dynamic network infrastructure. – Sep 06 '13 at 20:22
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@ScottPack, Re "adding 4 extra wires or having a team of people remove old wiring and add new": You serious? Ethernet is not just used in Enterprise machines. So what about those trillions of pairs in enduser computers that go unused? – Pacerier Oct 19 '17 at 11:27
For the same reason why the first and second pair are connected to pins 4, 5 and 3, 6: compatibility with telephone systems. In telephony main pair is the middle pair and second pair is the next one from middle (pins 2, 5 in RJ11 and 3, 6 in RJ45).
If you're using Fast Ethernet or Ethernet, you can route telephone signal in regular cable and it will work without a splitter (you can connect telephone or computer directly to socket).
Why 8 and not 6? I don't know. It's possible that people responsible for Ethernet were thinking that 100Mbps speeds will require two sending and two receiving pairs (those were the "parallel interfaces age" ;-) ) or that having the capacity for 2 phone lines would be beneficial.
More wires could lead to too expensive cables so 8 was chosen as a compromise.
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5RJ31 to RJ61 (including RJ45) all use the 8P8C connection; so it was already produced and reasonably priced, but not commonly found in homes. Ethernet did the simple thing, grabbed what hardware was cheap and laying around. – Chris S Nov 16 '12 at 14:38
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@ChrisS There was also plenty of scope for further capacity on the 8 core cable in the future - ethernet speeds were rapidly increasing and future capacity was a huge requirement at the time. – HaydnWVN Nov 16 '12 at 14:48
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Also, before PoE you could power more sophisticated phones with the 1,8 pair. – Ben Jackson Nov 16 '12 at 19:58
4-pair UTP cable with RJ-45 connectors was invented for audio telephone use. Its adoption and evolution as a medium for high-speed digital data communications has been a matter of convenience: adapting pre-existing mass-produced products for new uses rather than devising a completely new technical standard specific to one new application.
The way this works has been demonstrated in the development of speed standards. 100BASE-TX, -T2, and -T4 were developed in parallel, targeting adoption on different sorts of pre-existing wiring plants. T4 provides 100Mbps over all 4 pairs of Cat3, which was in place in many miles of conduits in businesses already for phone and prior networking technologies. T2 can work on 2 pairs of Cat3 at the cost of a more complex signaling model and interference sensitivity, which explains its de facto non-existence. TX needs 2 pairs of Cat5, which leaves 2 pairs usable for other applications: a distinct physical network or telephone service, split out with a very simple adapter. That capability is why TX survived while T4 was essentially only used transitionally. Swapping out old 4-pair phone or Cat3 UTP for 4-pair Cat5 UTP in the same runs wasn't free but it was a fairly simple path to a big improvement in communication capabilities.
Ultimately, no one uses 2-pair Cat5 UTP because 2-pair UTP of any grade has never been an economically reasonable option in money or space terms for anything longer than a patch cable. It isn't much thinner or cheaper than 4-pair because 2 pairs need the same physical and electrical protection as 4 if you're going to run it in walls and conduits.
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The wire spec CAT4 was around before Ethernet decided to descend from the coaxial trees. That 1/2" COAX backbone with taps at predefined distances kind of stank, then we hit RG-58 land. As buildings were wired with the newer CAT-4 twisted pair instead of that ancient 25 wire stuff, computer technology decided to adapt as twisted pair has noise cancelling and allowed for a cheaper way to transmit the signal. So the original question would be more to the point as "Why didn't Ethernet adopt a 4 pair system sooner and double its initial throughput from 10Mbps to 20Mbps?" – Fiasco Labs Sep 07 '13 at 00:33
Regarding your additional question about number of cores...
Each of the four pairs in a Cat 5 cable has differing precise number of twists per metre to minimize crosstalk between the pairs. Although cable assemblies containing 4 pairs are common, Category 5 is not limited to 4 pairs. Backbone applications involve using up to 100 pairs.[2] This use of balanced lines helps preserve a high signal-to-noise ratio despite interference from both external sources and crosstalk from other pairs. Category 5 cabling is most commonly used for faster Ethernet networks, such as 100BASE-TX and 1000BASE-T.
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1More info [here](http://www.cat-5-cable-company.com/faq-cat5-pair-differences.html) and even more information about 'crosstalk' is easily found by searching. – HaydnWVN Nov 16 '12 at 14:09
10BaseT and 100BaseTX only need four wires, but Gigabit Ethernet needs eight.
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Why do 10BaseT & 100BaseTX also have 8 wires even tough they are using only 4? Is it because they wanted the cable sockets to be forward compatible? Also, that doesn't explain why they didn't just went with 16 wires. – ProgrammerAtWork Nov 16 '12 at 13:52
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3@ProgrammerAtWork Imagine trying to explain to a pissed off consumer that he needs to buy a different cable for his new fancy Linksys router at home. Its much easier to standardize on a single cable type that can serve the needs of most as opposed to different cables that have to be swapped based on the speed you want to achieve. – Brent Pabst Nov 16 '12 at 14:09
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Cable is bought in bulk. It's cheaper to buy just one reel of cable and use it for everything. – Kaz Nov 16 '12 at 18:01
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This doesn't really answer the question because 8 pair cables were around long before gigabit was. There actually are many places not yet using gigabit that still use all eight wires. They use splitters (like http://www.bestlinknetware.com/products/102105.jpg) that allow two computers (or a computer and a phone) to utilize the same jack and the same cable run. – Moshe Katz Nov 22 '12 at 18:19
As the first notice: In this type of cabling system there is using for transmit one signal not one conductor, but pair. In one line wire is signal in the + phase, in the second one in the - phase (logical "1" is in one line for example +10V, but in the second line of pair is -10V). This is, because on the RX end of cable signal is evaluated as difference between the first and the second line in the pair. It's good method to eliminate interferences on the line - on the line can be interfered other signal to the line, but it will be added on the both line in the same direction - for example, if you have add on the both line +10V and you will have logical "1", you will have on the first line +20V, on the second line 0V (-10V + 10V), but difference is stil the same, 20V. Similar for logical "0" will be difference on the pair 0V. Be honest: I don't know precisely, how many volts are on the wire, it is only for imagination.
The second notice: If the first cabling system used 4 pairs, it was, because 2 pairs was planned for computer network and other 2 pairs was planned for voice communication. This was good up to 100Mbps networks. From 1Gbps networks, computers are using 4pairs and communication on this speed is only half-duplex. If you want have full-duplex communication on the 1Gbps speed, you have to use optical cabling.
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6Gigabit Ethernet **requires** full-duplex, moreover, the communication uses all four pairs at the same time to send *and* receive. – Hubert Kario Nov 16 '12 at 14:13
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4+1 to @HubertKario 1Gbps speeds on CAT5 and CAT5E cables are Full-Duplex, the only limitation would be on the sender or receiver side, nothing to do with the medium in between. – Brent Pabst Nov 16 '12 at 14:20
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I'm sorry, but you are wrong. You can communicate from one side to another and vice-versa, but in one moment you can communicate only in one direction, which is half-duplex mean. Please, try to read a wikipedia article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-duplex#Half-duplex and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000baseT#1000BASE-T . Please, be so kind, change opinion and remove -1 from my answer. Thanks a lot. – Jan Marek Nov 16 '12 at 18:38