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kingspaz
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posted February 03, 2001 05:33 PM
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i was thinking of making one for an annoying mouse in my shed. i thought of an ordinary mouse trap with a blasting cap placed in such a way that when the trap is triggered the arm strikes the blasting cap setting it off and destroying the mouse. the only thing is i want a trap which soley uses explosives so thats the only thing to kill the mouse.
if this sounds like crap i'm sorry but its late
any replies will be appreciated
thanx
Anthony
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posted February 03, 2001 07:54 PM
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Landmine! Electrically ingnited charge with a microswitch to complete the circuit, put a plate on top of the microswitch and some cheese on the plate.
Or, smear some nitrogen triodide on the floor and put some cheese in the middle of it before it dries.
ALENGOSVIG1
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posted February 03, 2001 10:54 PM
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nitrogen triiodide is very weak. You'll probally blow its leg off, then youll have a mouse with blodd pouring out if its let running all over the shed. oh yeah, the fact that mice like cheese is BS! they like salami and ham better.
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M-1000
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posted February 03, 2001 11:02 PM
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Take a peice of steel plate.Then take an old electric cord split it down so that you can hook one end of it to one side of the plate and the other end to the other side of the plate.Then put a pile of peanut butter in the center of it.Anybody know if this will trip the circut breaker?Would it work if you grounded the plate?Anyway I think this would be cleaner than exploding them.
PYRO500
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posted February 03, 2001 11:31 PM
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DO NOT TRY THAT! that will absolutely blow the breaker, or even worse catch the wiring in the walls on fire! to electrocute something you need a conductive path through it and nothing else! also you probably would want a higher voltage to break through the insulation if the rats feet to ensure conductivity
J
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posted February 04, 2001 07:07 AM
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What's wrong with a good old fashioned mousetrap? ;-)
The burnt mouse pieces from an explosion would more than likely attract other vermin, and stink out the shed.
A high voltage blast from a car ignition coil might do the trick, like a giant bug zapper. Mind you, I would not like to forget about the trap and then be reminded when I tread on it in a couple of months!
J
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Bandit
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posted February 04, 2001 07:19 AM
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There was a topic on this ages ago by Badseed i think. As said before a vapourised rat isnt the most safe thing to be decorating your shed. What about a estes rocket motor?
Bandit
SofaKing
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posted February 04, 2001 01:28 PM
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First peanut butter is the best mouse bait.
Second in the PMJB Kurt has an idea to used blobs of NI3 to scare the mice away, I think it would work.
Donutty
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posted February 04, 2001 05:26 PM
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I've had a similar 'landmine' solution to my rat problem. There is a good LOS to where the rats eat, so I figured simply placing about 250g of electrically ignited AP under there would do the trick. Although, er, it may blow my windows out.
PYRO500
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posted February 04, 2001 06:12 PM
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the rats in my barn kept chewing through the drywall, so I took some old steak& fillet knives and put them in slots in a piece of plywood, epoxyed them in place and held it above the corner of the room with macromay string and put that in front of their hole and one actually chewed through the cord and got impailed by the knives! I had to use a stick to get it off the knives, but now they dont fall for this trap anymore!
blackadder
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posted February 04, 2001 06:25 PM
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The bad thing about making landmines for mice, is that you will get mouse guts all over the place. The whole place will stink to high heaven, also it will attract cockaroaches, etc.
You could put some poison on the cheese, but then again, that's just like rat poison.
Anthony
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posted February 04, 2001 06:40 PM
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Claymores!
Ok, so blowing them up - stinks, frying them with electricity - stinks, poison - don't work, falling knives - only works once
The best option would be to lay some bait and sit there with your air rifle waiting for it.
MacCleod
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posted February 04, 2001 07:20 PM
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I used to shoot 'em with .22 birdshot in my parent's barn;if you sit still long enough, they'll walk right buy you.If you do opt to blast them,you could use two thin metal discs with AP/ground glass in between them,set where the arm will hit when it's released.As long as the mouse's head didn't get in the way it would work great.Although,it'd be dangerous as hell setting the trap!.
[This message has been edited by MacCleod (edited February 04, 2001).]
PYRO500
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posted February 04, 2001 08:40 PM
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hey how about makng a deadfall with like sulfurc acid at the bottom? just pour out the mess in the woods.
BaDSeeD
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posted February 05, 2001 12:44 AM
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lol
I'm suprised anyone remembered that topic..lol
And your right.. mice don't like cheese.. cats actually do. Mice like peanut butter, rats like dog food, and dogs like cat food. Go figure.
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ST
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posted February 05, 2001 01:31 AM
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A "deadfall" by definition is a trap that uses a heavy weight to fall on target, "pitfall" is what your after.
Someone i used to know used to have fun by chucking mice in sulphuric acid... they swim around and bubble and stuff, He also used to catch birds and cut their legs off with pliers then let them go.. sick in the head.
MacCleod
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posted February 05, 2001 01:42 AM
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If I had a friend like that,I'd take him target shooting."Here,Mike,hold this target for me".
PYRO500
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posted February 05, 2001 04:45 PM
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dead fall is also a pit that has something in the bottom to kill whatever falls in it, a pitfall kills by the creature falling. in an example when I wnt to canada I had to watchout for deadfalls trappers used to kill bears, they were pits coverd in nets, and leaves that looked like the ground and they had bamboo (not sure, but I think it was) stalks that were cut at the tip to look sorta like injection needles and I almost fell in one.
kingspaz
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posted February 05, 2001 05:04 PM
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thanx guys.
does anyone have any ideas about a trap that doesn't use electronic ignition?
CragHack
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posted February 05, 2001 05:32 PM
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you will not be able to use the weight of a mouse to set off a primer or anything, they don't weigh enough to do that. you could however make it so when the trap goes off, the thing that is going to decapatate the mouse crashed into a bb which is attached to a primer... that might work.
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Anthony
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posted February 05, 2001 06:26 PM
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It's amazing what some people can do to innocent animals for fun, it's even more amazing to think that people can also do that kind of thing to humans for fun.
Pyro500 - surely traps like the one you nearly fell in are illegal???
PYRO500
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posted February 05, 2001 06:54 PM
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I assume so, but they are everywhere in the canadian wilderness, esp near peoples cabins, I guess to protect from bears but I dont really know if you have ever seen the crappy movie the beach the thing he makes is sorta like a dead fall except they are like 6 foot deep minimum and have BIG spikes at the bottom
hodehum
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posted February 06, 2001 04:52 AM
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Take a nail or tack and attach it to the corner of the lever that would usally hit the mouse, next take a 12g shotgun shell remove the shot, wad, and then very carfuly remove the nylon outer casing by sawing it off or by whatever means you think is safe, so all you have is the metal charge part, then place the 12g charge on the corner of the wooden board where the nail would strike and carfully align the nail wtih the 12g primer, so that when the trap is set off the nail will strike the primer.
this mave not have enough power to blow mouse entrails all over your shed by its self but you could always put another HE charge near/under the 12g primer
BoB-
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posted February 10, 2001 06:24 PM
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oops, I dont want to post that, please delete.
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MacCleod
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posted February 11, 2001 12:32 AM
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I've been wondering if rats/mice would shy away from the scent of AP(?).If not,you could mold some AP putty around the entire outer edge of the trap,then rig the arm(?-whatever you call the part that squashes the mouse!)with a striker or B-B/primer assembly that would ignite the putty when tripped.
cdg3851
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posted February 11, 2001 02:21 AM
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just wondering, why blow up the mouse when you can slowly toture it to a painful death. make a trap that will catch it alive, and then have fun....i know i know...i do need to see a phychologist...i need help
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PYRO500
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posted February 11, 2001 02:50 AM
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if you think that is fun you are fucked in the head and what is with your name? this isnt irc
Crux
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posted February 11, 2001 03:18 AM
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what we use to trap mice in our grain shead is get a large garbage bin attach a piece off wood across the top and tyr a bit of roap so it dangels into the bin about 1/2 way tie the food/bait to the end of the roap then coat about half the roap with grease/oil and fill the bin up with water.
what happends is the mice smell the food, climb down the rope to get it, slip on the oil, fall into water and drown.
if you want the mice dont add water we did this with a steal bin with no water to catch the mice we had 1/2 the bin full of mice/ rats and took them to school on muck up day and let them go in the hall after blocking all the doors so thay cant get out so when some one went in there were mice eveywhere.
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posted February 03, 2001 05:33 PM
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i was thinking of making one for an annoying mouse in my shed. i thought of an ordinary mouse trap with a blasting cap placed in such a way that when the trap is triggered the arm strikes the blasting cap setting it off and destroying the mouse. the only thing is i want a trap which soley uses explosives so thats the only thing to kill the mouse.
if this sounds like crap i'm sorry but its late
any replies will be appreciated
thanx
Anthony
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From: England
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 03, 2001 07:54 PM
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Landmine! Electrically ingnited charge with a microswitch to complete the circuit, put a plate on top of the microswitch and some cheese on the plate.
Or, smear some nitrogen triodide on the floor and put some cheese in the middle of it before it dries.
ALENGOSVIG1
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From: Vancouver, Canada
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posted February 03, 2001 10:54 PM
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nitrogen triiodide is very weak. You'll probally blow its leg off, then youll have a mouse with blodd pouring out if its let running all over the shed. oh yeah, the fact that mice like cheese is BS! they like salami and ham better.
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[This message has been edited by ALENGOSVIG1 (edited February 03, 2001).]
M-1000
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posted February 03, 2001 11:02 PM
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Take a peice of steel plate.Then take an old electric cord split it down so that you can hook one end of it to one side of the plate and the other end to the other side of the plate.Then put a pile of peanut butter in the center of it.Anybody know if this will trip the circut breaker?Would it work if you grounded the plate?Anyway I think this would be cleaner than exploding them.
PYRO500
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From: somewhere in florida
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 03, 2001 11:31 PM
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DO NOT TRY THAT! that will absolutely blow the breaker, or even worse catch the wiring in the walls on fire! to electrocute something you need a conductive path through it and nothing else! also you probably would want a higher voltage to break through the insulation if the rats feet to ensure conductivity
J
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From: United Kingdom
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posted February 04, 2001 07:07 AM
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What's wrong with a good old fashioned mousetrap? ;-)
The burnt mouse pieces from an explosion would more than likely attract other vermin, and stink out the shed.
A high voltage blast from a car ignition coil might do the trick, like a giant bug zapper. Mind you, I would not like to forget about the trap and then be reminded when I tread on it in a couple of months!
J
------------------
"If the aquarium water has to be drunk don't waste the fish. In fact they'll probably be the easiest to eat even if you don't need the water. The cat is next in the pot." - John 'Lofty' Wiseman
Bandit
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posted February 04, 2001 07:19 AM
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There was a topic on this ages ago by Badseed i think. As said before a vapourised rat isnt the most safe thing to be decorating your shed. What about a estes rocket motor?
Bandit
SofaKing
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posted February 04, 2001 01:28 PM
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First peanut butter is the best mouse bait.
Second in the PMJB Kurt has an idea to used blobs of NI3 to scare the mice away, I think it would work.
Donutty
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Posts: 223
From: UK
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 04, 2001 05:26 PM
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I've had a similar 'landmine' solution to my rat problem. There is a good LOS to where the rats eat, so I figured simply placing about 250g of electrically ignited AP under there would do the trick. Although, er, it may blow my windows out.
PYRO500
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Posts: 1474
From: somewhere in florida
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 04, 2001 06:12 PM
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the rats in my barn kept chewing through the drywall, so I took some old steak& fillet knives and put them in slots in a piece of plywood, epoxyed them in place and held it above the corner of the room with macromay string and put that in front of their hole and one actually chewed through the cord and got impailed by the knives! I had to use a stick to get it off the knives, but now they dont fall for this trap anymore!
blackadder
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From: London
Registered: DEC 2000
posted February 04, 2001 06:25 PM
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The bad thing about making landmines for mice, is that you will get mouse guts all over the place. The whole place will stink to high heaven, also it will attract cockaroaches, etc.
You could put some poison on the cheese, but then again, that's just like rat poison.
Anthony
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Posts: 2312
From: England
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 04, 2001 06:40 PM
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Claymores!
Ok, so blowing them up - stinks, frying them with electricity - stinks, poison - don't work, falling knives - only works once
The best option would be to lay some bait and sit there with your air rifle waiting for it.
MacCleod
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From:
Registered: DEC 2000
posted February 04, 2001 07:20 PM
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I used to shoot 'em with .22 birdshot in my parent's barn;if you sit still long enough, they'll walk right buy you.If you do opt to blast them,you could use two thin metal discs with AP/ground glass in between them,set where the arm will hit when it's released.As long as the mouse's head didn't get in the way it would work great.Although,it'd be dangerous as hell setting the trap!.
[This message has been edited by MacCleod (edited February 04, 2001).]
PYRO500
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From: somewhere in florida
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 04, 2001 08:40 PM
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hey how about makng a deadfall with like sulfurc acid at the bottom? just pour out the mess in the woods.
BaDSeeD
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From: buffalo, ny
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 05, 2001 12:44 AM
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lol
I'm suprised anyone remembered that topic..lol
And your right.. mice don't like cheese.. cats actually do. Mice like peanut butter, rats like dog food, and dogs like cat food. Go figure.
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BaDSeeD
Knowledge is the true power, ignorrance will bring your demise.
ST
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From: 000
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posted February 05, 2001 01:31 AM
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A "deadfall" by definition is a trap that uses a heavy weight to fall on target, "pitfall" is what your after.
Someone i used to know used to have fun by chucking mice in sulphuric acid... they swim around and bubble and stuff, He also used to catch birds and cut their legs off with pliers then let them go.. sick in the head.
MacCleod
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From:
Registered: DEC 2000
posted February 05, 2001 01:42 AM
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If I had a friend like that,I'd take him target shooting."Here,Mike,hold this target for me".
PYRO500
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Posts: 1474
From: somewhere in florida
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 05, 2001 04:45 PM
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dead fall is also a pit that has something in the bottom to kill whatever falls in it, a pitfall kills by the creature falling. in an example when I wnt to canada I had to watchout for deadfalls trappers used to kill bears, they were pits coverd in nets, and leaves that looked like the ground and they had bamboo (not sure, but I think it was) stalks that were cut at the tip to look sorta like injection needles and I almost fell in one.
kingspaz
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From: UK
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posted February 05, 2001 05:04 PM
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thanx guys.
does anyone have any ideas about a trap that doesn't use electronic ignition?
CragHack
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Registered: DEC 2000
posted February 05, 2001 05:32 PM
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you will not be able to use the weight of a mouse to set off a primer or anything, they don't weigh enough to do that. you could however make it so when the trap goes off, the thing that is going to decapatate the mouse crashed into a bb which is attached to a primer... that might work.
------------------
...Æ
Anthony
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From: England
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 05, 2001 06:26 PM
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It's amazing what some people can do to innocent animals for fun, it's even more amazing to think that people can also do that kind of thing to humans for fun.
Pyro500 - surely traps like the one you nearly fell in are illegal???
PYRO500
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From: somewhere in florida
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 05, 2001 06:54 PM
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I assume so, but they are everywhere in the canadian wilderness, esp near peoples cabins, I guess to protect from bears but I dont really know if you have ever seen the crappy movie the beach the thing he makes is sorta like a dead fall except they are like 6 foot deep minimum and have BIG spikes at the bottom
hodehum
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Posts: 21
From: New Zealand
Registered: FEB 2001
posted February 06, 2001 04:52 AM
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Take a nail or tack and attach it to the corner of the lever that would usally hit the mouse, next take a 12g shotgun shell remove the shot, wad, and then very carfuly remove the nylon outer casing by sawing it off or by whatever means you think is safe, so all you have is the metal charge part, then place the 12g charge on the corner of the wooden board where the nail would strike and carfully align the nail wtih the 12g primer, so that when the trap is set off the nail will strike the primer.
this mave not have enough power to blow mouse entrails all over your shed by its self but you could always put another HE charge near/under the 12g primer
BoB-
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posted February 10, 2001 06:24 PM
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oops, I dont want to post that, please delete.
[This message has been edited by BoB- (edited February 10, 2001).]
MacCleod
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posted February 11, 2001 12:32 AM
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I've been wondering if rats/mice would shy away from the scent of AP(?).If not,you could mold some AP putty around the entire outer edge of the trap,then rig the arm(?-whatever you call the part that squashes the mouse!)with a striker or B-B/primer assembly that would ignite the putty when tripped.
cdg3851
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Posts: 3
From: cuntzvill
Registered: FEB 2001
posted February 11, 2001 02:21 AM
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just wondering, why blow up the mouse when you can slowly toture it to a painful death. make a trap that will catch it alive, and then have fun....i know i know...i do need to see a phychologist...i need help
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---I am bored! If i am being lame, please tell me to shut up---James---
PYRO500
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From: somewhere in florida
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 11, 2001 02:50 AM
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if you think that is fun you are fucked in the head and what is with your name? this isnt irc
Crux
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From: australia
Registered: SEP 2000
posted February 11, 2001 03:18 AM
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what we use to trap mice in our grain shead is get a large garbage bin attach a piece off wood across the top and tyr a bit of roap so it dangels into the bin about 1/2 way tie the food/bait to the end of the roap then coat about half the roap with grease/oil and fill the bin up with water.
what happends is the mice smell the food, climb down the rope to get it, slip on the oil, fall into water and drown.
if you want the mice dont add water we did this with a steal bin with no water to catch the mice we had 1/2 the bin full of mice/ rats and took them to school on muck up day and let them go in the hall after blocking all the doors so thay cant get out so when some one went in there were mice eveywhere.