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roux
December 9th, 2003, 09:15 PM
first post for me. damn 2 hour wait. ive been designing weaponry and studying chemistry for a year or so. this post is for a grenade i designed.

materials:

-threaded pipe (fairly small, 5 inches long, 2 inch dia.)
-threaded caps to fit the pipe
-metal tube (4" long, 1/4" dia.)
-safty fuze (6-8" long)
-non-electrical blasing cap (or some kind of primary explosive capable of detonating a HE)
-high explosive
-wood strike anywhere match(optional)
-strong glue


drill a 1/4 inch hole in the center of one cap. insert the metal tube into the hold so that if the cap were it be skrewed onto the pipe, the tube would be on the inside.
glue the fuse to the blasting cap (but im not sure, never worked with blasting caps)
glue the blasting cap to the end of the tube that would be inside the pipe, and be sure that the fuze sticks out of the other end of the tube.
skrew the pipe onto the cap with the metal tube so the tube is on the inside of the pipe.
fill the pipe with the high explosive.
skrew the other cap on the pipe.

to use: light the fuze and run/throw

the match is used to make what i call a "strike anywhere fuze". just line the match head up with the end of the match so the fuze runs down along the match. now all you have to do is tape/tie it in place. when you strike the match, the fuze will light.

i hope this will benefit the forum.

Blackhawk
December 9th, 2003, 11:36 PM
While that would work, it is just a fused pipebomb, with HE's no less. The problem you may have is that the HE det may go off on the impact after you throw the thing, which would not be good. However there are 168 topics found after searching the forum for 'grenade', several of which you could have quite easily tacked this on to. Furthermore you didn't capitalise the I when reffering to yourself and you made your first post a new topic, the future is not good for you my friend, I advise that you read the rules and apologise, while you didn't ask a question/be rude/be an idiot, I still think had you read the rules you woudln't have posted this as it dosn't really merit a new topic.

Of course I may be wrong here, but I am trying to help a fellow newb who dosn't seem ...that.... bad.

Hang-Man
December 10th, 2003, 12:13 AM
I don’t know if you noticed, but most of us seem to be above the "fill container with explosive, light, run" stage of our pyro lives.
but im not sure, never worked with blasting caps)
I’m going to write a program that scans posts for "i", "ive" "Bomb" "Anarchist" and any combination of the words "primary" and "throw". Then it sends the poster a virus. But seeing as we are on the topic of "Stuff we never really did" and "types of fuse" (the only part of you're post that wasn't redundant as hell), what if you took the flash unit out of a camera, you know, that thing that charges until it has allot of energy then fires it to the bulb? what if you took that and used it as its own timer, you could hook it up to a watch battery or some small power source and to some NiChrome wire, instead of building a complex digital timing device you just press a button to complete the circuit and run, it discharges when it reaches X energy and BANG! I’ll try it on the weekend unless someone can see a reason not to.

ossassin
December 10th, 2003, 01:12 AM
Hang-Man, don't send them viruses. Mods, be nice to the guy. :) Many people come to this forum full of misconceptions about the field of explosives. It is our duty to show these people the truth so that our reputations can be salvaged. Who knows? He might turn out to be a well-respected member some day!

Tuatara
December 10th, 2003, 04:15 AM
Not with a post like that. 1st post, new topic, => hasn't read the rules. Something he's designed but obviously never made. Roux, if you were to supply some pics of the real thing in action you might gain some respect, but telling everyone how you think a chuckable pipe bomb should be made ... :rolleyes:

Also: learn to spell 'screw', and locate the shift key on your keyboard - its very useful for putting capitals at the start of your sentences.

roux
December 11th, 2003, 08:07 PM
I am sorry. i did not read the rules. you all were right. but i doubt that simple grammatical and spelling mistakes are worth commenting on. but i have been reading the forums a while before i made this post. i have not tested this like you all assume, but this is a forum for discussing ideas, corect? i had seen a few posts for things like butane grenades and other small ineffective explosive devises. but i had never seen a post on a well built grenade. some may have a closed pipe filled with blackpowder and a fuze sticking out. but my design is much better. for one, it is harder to keep from exploding when lit (unlike simple pipe bombs), which can be an equally better or worse thing.

ossassin
December 11th, 2003, 11:12 PM
Thrown grenades have pins, levers and internal fuses. If you want to know how a real grenade works, go here (http://people.howstuffworks.com/grenade2.htm). The diagram at the bottom of the page is interactive, and it really helps you understand the whole process.

FragmentedSanity
December 13th, 2003, 03:02 AM
Roux - try searching the archives - just beacuse you havent seen a recent topic dosent mean we havent had a lot before.
here is a couple of threads you might be interested in:
tri-grenades (http://roguesci.org/theforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=642)
simple handgrenade designs (http://roguesci.org/theforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=678)

there are dozens of other posts - have a look and then try and tell us there arent any "well built grenades"

If your too lazy to search, too lazy to read the rules and spouting off about something you have no real knowledge of - just halfbaked ideas and theories, then you arent benifiting the forum. You could also make your posts a little clearer. If you have been reading the posts here for a while then you should have some idea of the general standards and protocols when it comes to posting - Does your post sound more like something from one of the Mods or regular posters or more like somone from the BFL section? Just something to think about.

roux
December 13th, 2003, 11:42 AM
i see. the tri-grenade looks like a nice design, and there were some instructions on how to assemble one. but it looks as if one would need a lot of equipment to make one. i posted my design for a grenade for its simplicity. anyone could purchase at least half of what you would need to build this grenade at a local hardware store, and little or no skill is required for it.

THErAPIST
December 14th, 2003, 03:49 AM
The tri-grenade is as simple as it gets... Tape some cardboard triangles together to make the casing, fill it full of HE, stick det in. For shrapnel glue bb's to the sides or make a beakable plate thats full of imbeded bb's. You tried to help a little which I like to see, but it wasnt too needed. Another thing that makes the tri-nade an ingeneuos thing is the fact that it only fucks over the people who are very near to it as anyone furthwer away is missed by the projectiles (since they're traveling upwards) while your design is just as dangerous for the thrower as it is for the intended target.

Rocket-Boy
October 23rd, 2004, 07:01 PM
We just bug bombed our house with "Raid - Concentrated deep reach fogger", with an active ingredient of "Cypermethrin", I was wondering if these little cans (about the size of a pop can) could be used as an improvised chem/gas grenade? That is all.