Agent Blak
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posted 05-02-2001 07:13 PM
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Does any one have any books on making Sling or any info they can give me?
what about this book?

SLING FOR SPORT AND SURVIVAL
Was $ 8.95 $ 8.05
by Cliff Savage
The sling is the ultimate lightweight weapon: it 's compact, silent, easy to conceal and carry, inexpensive to make and powerful. Best of all, its ammo is free and plentiful! This book shows how to make this ancient tool and teaches six surefire slingingtechniques as well as ways to improvise your own ammo. Includes a section on guerrilla warfare. 5 1/2 x 8 1/2, softcover, illus., 80 pp.

Publisher code: SLING
Price: $8.95


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CragHack
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posted 05-02-2001 07:50 PM
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i am sorry i don't have any bookz on the subject but i can tell you from experiance. The best ammo to use is not a spherical rock or marble, but a rock that is eliptical in shape. that way it hugs the puch better and won't slip off.
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richl261
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posted 05-03-2001 11:15 AM
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a sling (like david & goliath) all you need is a leather shoe lace and a patch of leather jacket for the ammo holder bit
for a slingshot (like bart simpson) just get a Y shaped piece of Ash tree and synthetic "cat gut"

but you can buy them for like....£3 from small camping shops



BoB-
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posted 05-04-2001 02:47 PM
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I dreamed about making a sling, I practiced on the beach real early in the morning so my ammo wouldnt hit anyone.
You can use small diameter dowel instead of string, some velocity is lost, but its way easier to learn on.

If you split the pouch (like in the picture) you can use round ammo.








mark
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posted 05-14-2001 11:17 PM
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Im intriuged. how does one use a sling?


BoB-
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posted 05-15-2001 01:51 AM
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I shouldve included this in my first post here:
http://www.artrans.com/rmsg/_newsgroups/huntisl1.htm#Sling Design & Technique

Okay, I guess you have to copy and paste the url.

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SATANIC
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posted 05-16-2001 03:45 AM
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The local disposals shop sells slingshot 'rubbers', the actual leather pouch and tapered rubber bands, that slid onto a metal frame i made in metal class. it wil fire more than 300 metres, and is pretty acurate within a hundred (head shot would mean instant death) the projectiles i use are cheap fishing sinkers, you can get many different sizes / weights, and they are easy to find. the power was way kmore than i expected, i have broken a window at 300metres, (probably a fluke as far as accuracy is concerned).

I have made a sling. It is quite impressive, I don't know how far it fires because I can't find any place with enough space (they won't let me on the golf driving range). My sling is made of two 5 ft. shoe strings and 3.5 in by 3.5 in. piece of leather. I cut around 6-7 inches of shoe string of each shoe string, I then tied the short section of string to each corner and formed two loops on opposite sides. To the loop I tied the rest of my string. On the end of one string I put a knot, and on the other I put a loop. I put the loop on my middle finger, and I hold the knot between my thumb and forefinger.

Last night I made a sling and blowgun. Very simple tutorial but just trying to contribute...

So, here's the pathetically simple tutorial:

Blowgun:

Conduit 10'
Sandpaper
Empty Fiilm Container
Epoxy
Toothpick
100 MPH tape
Gun Camo Tape

First I put a blanket in my vice; and slid the conduit into the vice. I cut off 3'2". Thus leaving a 6'10" 'blowgun'.

http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/34459/2006159974034473798_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006159974034473798)

Cleaned up the end I cut, with some sandpaper... cut a small hole in bottom of film canister and forced it onto the end of the conduit. I pushed it on far enough to get a thick roll of the 100 MPH tape around the very end of the conduit, thus preventing the film container from coming off. Next I pushed the film container to the tape and taped (military tape) behind the cannister to prevent it from sliding down. Then I used the epoxy glue to try and gain an airtight seal with the mouthpiece. I slowly squeezed it into the interior of the film cannister. Then took a toothpick and spread it. Next, I allowed it to dry.

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/35261/2006150226383965266_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006150226383965266)

Now I put the camo gun tape onto the blowgun. I put the tape on lengthwise (vertically), not horizontally, wrapping it evenly. The finished product:

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/38020/2006194539657077600_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006194539657077600)

and:

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/38020/2006169029145104764_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006169029145104764)


Now, to the sling:

Leather Boot Tongue
#18 Mason's Line
Elmer's All Purpose Glue
Exacto Knife
Scissors
Candle
Lighter
Quilting Twine

First I took the exacto knife and sliced the entire tongue out of an old Wolverine boot. Then, using the exacto knife I made two slits directly across from each other, centered, and 1/4" from the edge of the tongue. I laid this aside. Next, I took the scissors and cut 6 pieces of Mason's Line from the roll; 3 were 29 1/4" and 3 were 33 1/4".

http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/36867/2006168852206207914_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006168852206207914)

I then braided each set together using a flat braid. I then inserted one of them through the slit in the tongue. I pushed it through a solid inch and wrapped that around the primary braid; then took the quilting twine and used that to bind the one inch of twisted line to the main line.

http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/37729/2006148290055457776_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006148290055457776)

I did the same to the other slit in the tongue.

Now I took the longer (33 1/4") set of braids and made a loop on the opposite end by using my middle finger. I then ran it an inch further and use the quilting twine to bind the excess to the main line. I then grasped the tongue and folded the sides together, allowing the lines to fully extend. I took the non looped braid and held it level with the looped one. Then tied a knot in that braid making it exactly level with the looped one. I snipped off the little bit of extra nylon, from the knotted end. Next I lit the candle and dripped hot wax onto each binding (3 of them). I waited a couple of minutes to allow the wax to dry. Finally, I laid the sling on a piece of paper towel and covered the bound and waxed areas with Elmer's All Purpose Glue. Let it dry and then took this pic:

http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/37729/2006151230590860027_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006151230590860027)

I see tons of ideas all over the web on how to make blowguns.

This is how to make the ultimate blowgun that has far more power and accuracy than any of these stupid designs using string I have seen.

You need:

4 foot piece of 1/2 inch copper pipe or PVC.
a sheet of paper
a few tacking nails
hot glue
pencil
tape.

start by making a cone out of the paper. cut a 2x2 inch piece of paper and roll it into a small cone, it doesn't matter if there is a *small* hole in the end, but make sure you keep it nice and tight.

Next tape it and stick it into the piece of pipe that is now your blowgun. mark it with the pencil so you know where to cut it. Cut the cone down to size, you should now have a cone that fits quite snugly inside the pipe.

Stick the nail through the cone and drop a dab of glue behind it so the nail stays in place.

The dart is finished. stick it into the pipe and give it a short sharp blow. Blow it like you mean it :D and the dart will go 50-75 meters with extreme accuracy.

the things rip right through soup cans and will tear a pop can in half. I originally used 6 inch pieces of coat hanger wire and if you shot those into a piece of plywood you will need a pair of pliers to pull it out. They dont have as good range as smaller tacking nails however.

Spray the gun black and see what kind of shit you can stir up at night :).

Another thing we do is leave out the nail and fill the cone with glue, now you can shoot em at each other. And sometimes we make them using wooden skewers. cut the end off and round it off with a file. They will still go into you and hurt like ****, so it makes you a lot more serious when you play in the woods with ghille suits :)

With a little practice you can spit out over 40 darts in half an hour.

Lay all the other crap about using string on the end of the dart to rest and use this method, works way better.

A website that has some tutorials on making slings, as well as some information on throwing techniques:

http://slinging.org/index.php?page=advice-and-how-to-s

I own three slingshots.
- An Italian slingshot.
- A rubbishy slingshot from a fishing shop
- A homemade slingshot, made from a Y shaped piece if wood, I cut from an Apple tree in my garden and "slingshot elastic" I bought from the same fisning shop as I previously mentioned.

Ill post picks of the homemade one later

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc211/guskicks/DSCF0917.jpg

The black one is the Italian slingshot, while the blue one is the not-so-good slingshot.