Talk:Dragontaur (5e Creature)
The damage of the attacks is inconsistent. The bite has a +6 to hit bonus, suggesting an ability modifier +3 in line with the creature's Strength of 17, but it has a +4 bonus to its damage. The claw has a +6 to hit bonus, again suggesting +3, but it has a +2 bonus to its damage, like the creature's Dexterity of 14, but if it is based on Dexterity, it should have a +5 to hit, not +6. The tail is consistent, with a +6 to hit bonus and a +3 damage bonus. The creature's hit points are also incorrect. SirSprinkles (talk) 05:20, 4 June 2019 (MDT)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is essentially just a fetishized Half-Dragon, a template and, if I am not mistaken, playable race that already exists in the base material, or at the very least in multiple different forms on this wiki. It is also somewhat overpowered, as it is considered a 9th-level spellcaster at CR 5, in addition to all other racial abilities. Let me restate that this page is nothing less than someone's wet dream, a fact which disgusts me on a personal level. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 02:49, 24 October 2020 (MDT)
- I think a centauroid dragon would be way cooler. This could be rebuilt as a 'fey Dragontaur' Arquebus (talk) 12:05, 24 October 2020 (MDT)
- That concept has the same issue. It's just some weird amalgamation that somebody wants to fade to black with. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 20:18, 24 October 2020 (MDT)
- I get where you're coming from Nuke, but to quote the mature content policy, "Discussion of this template's use should always be carried out in the format of "Given actual people are likely to be offended by this because of actual reasons". Any usage of this template in the format of "I am offended by this, mark it as adult" or "I have marked this for adult content" is unacceptable, and goes against the collaborative nature of this wiki ". Furthermore, it only explicity disallows "pornographic images, videos, or games; sexually gratifying text, images, audio, or video; or illegal sexual acts". Deleting a page simply because someone might be attracted to the general concept is pretty bogus. I once knew a guy who wanted to do X, Y and Z with a beholder, are we deleting any beholder-related pages? How about the 90,000 different catgirl pages. Like I said, I get that you personally dislike this, but ultimately your objections just don't really hold up to what the MCP actually says. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:40, 24 October 2020 (MDT)
- Very well, but I still believe the page is redundant. We already have half-dragons, and this would at best be nothing more than a different kind of half dragon. It would likely be workable to simply replace all instances of "Anthro Dragon" with Half-Dragon, as the term Half-Dragon lacks the immediate and inherent association with pornography. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 21:21, 24 October 2020 (MDT)
- There's nothing inherently pornographic with anthropomorphism unless we're really going to say that Looney Toons was made to get people hot and bothered. I say we give Arq the chance to turn this into something that wouldn't be redundant with half-dragons, perhaps some form of 'fey dragontaur', and see where we are from there. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:33, 25 October 2020 (MDT)
- Very well, but I still believe the page is redundant. We already have half-dragons, and this would at best be nothing more than a different kind of half dragon. It would likely be workable to simply replace all instances of "Anthro Dragon" with Half-Dragon, as the term Half-Dragon lacks the immediate and inherent association with pornography. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 21:21, 24 October 2020 (MDT)
- I get where you're coming from Nuke, but to quote the mature content policy, "Discussion of this template's use should always be carried out in the format of "Given actual people are likely to be offended by this because of actual reasons". Any usage of this template in the format of "I am offended by this, mark it as adult" or "I have marked this for adult content" is unacceptable, and goes against the collaborative nature of this wiki ". Furthermore, it only explicity disallows "pornographic images, videos, or games; sexually gratifying text, images, audio, or video; or illegal sexual acts". Deleting a page simply because someone might be attracted to the general concept is pretty bogus. I once knew a guy who wanted to do X, Y and Z with a beholder, are we deleting any beholder-related pages? How about the 90,000 different catgirl pages. Like I said, I get that you personally dislike this, but ultimately your objections just don't really hold up to what the MCP actually says. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:40, 24 October 2020 (MDT)
- That concept has the same issue. It's just some weird amalgamation that somebody wants to fade to black with. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 20:18, 24 October 2020 (MDT)
I will do what I can to rebuild this creature as a Dragontaur. No guarantees however. Arquebus (talk) 10:34, 25 October 2020 (MDT)
-Arquebus, if you want to make a Dragontaur just go make a Dragontaur, don't just overwrite and completely redo another page. Just copy the work you did=, createe a new one for a dracotaur and restore this page. Shemma (talk) 6:13, 5 January 2021 (EST)