5e SRD talk:System Reference Document

SRD Protection

So, a number of people have pointed out that our SRD pages, being unprotected, are easily targeted by spammers and vandals. Since this project is a transcription of a legal document, it is unlikely to experience significant changes once complete. Is there any reason why the pages should not all be protected to autoconfirmed only? --Kydo (talk) 03:45, 15 December 2016 (MST)

We need to lock the SRD pages. They are still missing links and such, but they should be locked. --Green Dragon (talk) 07:11, 15 December 2016 (MST)

Is "Epic Spells and Powers" actually in the 5e SRD, or is it 3.5e holdover? Marasmusine (talk) 11:57, 2 February 2017 (MST)

Lots of the links here are 3.5e holdovers. If anyone could go through and twiddle through the right links on this page, it would be awesome! Barnstar from me then :). --Green Dragon (talk) 12:32, 2 February 2017 (MST)

Search the SRD

"Search the SRD" doesn't work as intended, or at least not on my end. I'm pretty sure "namespaces=5e SRD" needs to be replaced with "namespaces=5e_SRD". I would just fix this myself, but the page is protected. — Guy (talk | edits) 09:21, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. --Green Dragon (talk) 09:38, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Spells & Other Things in 1st Party Books That Are Not Included in The SRD

It has recently come to my attention again, that there exists a number of 1st party spells, subclasses, races, items, ect. that exist in the PHB and other 1st party books that is not listed in the SRD. Normally this should be fine, but it seems like the wiki has an extremely loose/fragmented framework for what to do with pages that reference these materials, as noted by the states of these 3 different pages on the wiki for spells found in 1st party material(Destruction Wave (5e Spell) is entirely missing, 5e SRD:Blade Ward is a spell that is not in the SRD, but uses its namespace, and Absorb Elements (5e Spell) which is also complete but instead uses the homebrew namespace for spells). Also, these pages tend not to protected by editing so any user can come and change these pages as they will.

As such, I would like to suggest a more uniform way to sort and name these pages. My proposed idea is for everything that is not specifically in the 5e SRD to use its appropiate homebrew namespace(so homebrew content can not be created with the exact same name) with all the pages being protected from regular user editing, and for there to be some sort of place that lists all 1st party 5e books with each book linking to its own page that contains several dpl's for each type of content found inside that book. A new category of some sort may also need to be created for the pages that reference material found if 1st party material if there is not one already.

Although changing and/or creating the pages necessary for this to work will be a fairly large task, I believe that with this framework going forward, it will vastly easier to locate the pages that reference 1st party material on the wiki and for you to figure out where to find info about a particular piece of 1st party content.--Blobby383b (talk) 10:44, 12 September 2019 (MDT)

I agree that this would be more organized. A major problem of course is that then they will have the Homebrew banner, and will not look official. Thus, I propose that we use the "OGC" namespace. --Green Dragon (talk) 02:08, 13 September 2019 (MDT)

Upon some further inspection, the organization part could be accomplished through modifying the dpl's found in Xanathar's Guide to Everything to work with other publications like Monster Manual (5e), Player's Handbook (5e), and any least all other 5e sourcebook/publication pages if not also the publications of other editions. Using the OGC namespace for the names of 1st party reference pages sounds good, however I still believe redirects will have to created for the names of these pages as to prevent users from creating a pages called say Human (5e Race) and making some users believe the homebrew is official.--Blobby383b (talk) 11:28, 13 September 2019 (MDT)

I would be fine with using the 5e SRD namespace for this even though they're not SRD spells, and having pages in the main namespace with the same name that redirect to the 5e SRD page.

Regardless of what we choose, I can bot-protect all relevant pages to stop normal users from editing them. — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 11:59, 13 September 2019 (MDT)

As I've said before, having the homebrew banner appear on every page in main namespace is beneficial but introduces some problems. This is just one of those problems. Moving these pages to OGC isn't a fix, and only adds another unnecessary later of confusion as they are not OGC either.

Keeping these pages in the main namespace serves several purposes. One of those is that it inherently prevents homebrew content from being made with the same name as official content, which OGC would not do as well without redirects or something in addition to the pages themselves.

The vast majority of pages that fall into this domain already follow the example of pages like Absorb Elements (5e Spell) and Goblin (5e Race). I believe the best and even easiest course of action is to merely adopt this format among the few outliers which aren't already this way. Maybe add redirects from other namespaces if that is a concern. I see no benefit in reinventing the wheel here. - Guy 06:12, 14 September 2019 (MDT)

^{Also, that spell is destructive wave, not destruction wave.}

Ok. As seen here I've adopted the mostly-standard format I mentioned across the outliers (or at least, the outliers which were not locked) from the PHB. One could now easily make a dpl for PHB-exclusive content on Player's Handbook (5e), mirroring the one for Xanathar's Guide to Everything. - Guy 19:20, 19 September 2019 (MDT)

Right, this is the right organization for these types of pages. I thought that the discussion was revolving around OGC pages (or similar licensed pages) which were going to be added into the main namespace, with content. --Green Dragon (talk) 08:53, 24 September 2019 (MDT)

With the last few PHB page done, the Player's Handbook (5e) should list most everything in the PHB that isn't in the SRD. Any additional pages found will just go to Other PHB-exclusive list, so the dpl's are somewhat future proofed as well. As such, all of the pages found on Player's Handbook (5e) can not be locked to editing.--Blobby383b (talk) 21:28, 10 October 2019 (MDT)

Assuming you mean “can now be locked,” I’ll bot-protect these pages shortly. Thanks! — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 22:02, 10 October 2019 (MDT)