Suburban Knights/Headscratchers

• Isn't it odd to have two people competing to be your personal gopher when neither of them even live in the same country as you? And unlike Kickassia, there's little reason to believe that you'll be staying there for more than a week?
  • Maybe he figured that using a gopher would make things easier for him.
  • Film Brain is the same as he was in Kickassia where he was a massive NC fanboy and wants to be a toadie out of admiration. As for Luke he just seems to want to score points with his boss, and being one of the only two out of seventeen to show enthusiasm for the quest makes Luke look really good in comparison (to the Critic at least).
• On a similar note, did Film Brain just offer to make the Nostalgia Critic a coffee, then sit down next to Lupa and listen to the remainder of his speech rather than actually do anything about it? No wonder Luke got it first.
  • Seemed to me like Film Brain was in the kitchen whilst the critic did his speech.
  • No, if you look you can clearly see him sitting at the couch happily nodding along with the Critic's plans.
    • He went to start the coffee maker, and then went back to listen to the Critic's plans. Coffee makers don't need your undivided attention.
      • Which adds another layer to it: Luke wasn't really as noticeable at the meeting and presumably snuck away and made a cup for The Critic while Film Brain went and made his cup during the critic's speech... giving Luke ample time to get the Critic the coffee first. This also adds another reason for Film Brain's rage: He made the Coffee but Luke gets all the credit. Another possible explanation is that Luke got the Critic a latte on the way there and then just heated it up while everyone was distracted.
• How come they can read Chick's subtitles, but not Marz Gurl's?
  • POSSIBLY they need it pointed out first?
  • Rule of Funny?
  • To quote Spoony in Part 2: "We no speaky the Miyazaki. If only you spoke the tongues of elves or men."
  • Marz Gurl didn't tell them to.
• So, Linkara, who's fought an evil robot from another world, an interdimensional dictator, and a giant fracking robot, can't take an oversized rat? And meanwhile, Spoony, who has gone against a Black Lantern version of himself, a headless, and similar threats, just runs like a pansy as soon as danger shows up? Or is Suburban Knights not in canon with the others shows?
  • All of Linkara's battles on Atop the Fourth Wall rely on the use of Pollo, Neutro, his magic gun, his Power Rangers stuff, his Doctor Who stuff, his supporting cast... Otherwise known as things he didn't bring with him to Chicago because he thought he was only picking up a free car. Without them, he's just a normal guy.
  • He did bring his magic gun in the beginning of part 1 but maybe left it when he dressed up as King Arthur. He shot at Critic with it when he finally arrived.
  • Or they're saving it all for the finale.
  • Everybody was under the impression that anybody else they met was also LARPing (and for that matter, Linkara's group still is). They're not going to pull out all of their massively powered weapons on those who they assume are just average joes. Furthermore, Spoony doesn't actually have much in the way of weapons. He has Burton and his gunblade, sure, but its obvious that he didn't bring them with him.
  • I didn't consider that they didn't bring their weapons. That makes a lot of sense, though it could have been given a token mention.
  • Joe brought his gun but didn't use it until he knew The Cloaks were packing. Considering the Critic's enemies so far have been a puppeteer and a witch, the gun would be overkill and wouldn't fit respectively.
  • In part 6, Linkara and Joe make indiscriminate use of their guns in a swordfight.
• How does the tail/tale confusion work on the map? Critic is confused about whether the clue means tail or tale despite reading it in plain text by himself.
  • Doug's dyslexic.
    • And his spelling isn't that great either.
  • Also, if the map was created to look very old, then it could have very well be spelled taile as English spelling wasn't standardized until after the time of Shakespeare.
    • And it was Lupa, who wasn't reading the map at the time, who asked if one of the paths had a story, not the Critic.
    • Confirmed as of Part 4 that whoever created the map was a terrible speller.
• The costume thing. In-story, none of the other reviewers knew anything about this quest until they were in Chicago. Considering they had one night to prepare, some of the costumes are particularly elaborate, and some have already been used by their owners and thus should have been back home. A concern, perhaps, but easily written off as the Rule of Funny. But then Cinema Snob says he couldn't bring a whip because airport security wouldn't let him. So... he tried to bring the whip to Chicago before he ever knew about the quest? And he took a flight, despite actually living in Illinois? The idea of using a belt instead of a whip is humorous, but the explanation strains Willing Suspension of Disbelief.
  • Perhaps his logic of "no one messes with a guy with a whip" means he brings one wherever he goes, with the exception of places he flies to. as for the others, they probably just raided a costume shop and made a few customizations
  • Of course he wasn't going to drive down, he thought he was going to win a new car and was probably planning on driving it back.
  • Also: they wouldn't let Snob carry a belt onto an airplane (like, say, in a carry-on). Didn't he consider packing it in his suitcase?
  • Which raises the question of how Linkara brought his magic gun with him.
    • Linkara has a Starfleet teleporter. I assume that's also how he suddenly changed into his Admiral uniform. Or it's another setting on his morpher (along with clasic Linkara and Zeo!kara)
    • It's magic. We don't have to explain it.
  • I figured that was just a Fourth Wall breaking joke.
  • Given the people involved, they most likely keep those outfits on hand in case they are needed.
  • I thought he lied because he didn't have a real whip and expected their mission to be a stupid LARP and didn't need a real weapon anyway. Then when he realized how stupid he looked he made up the story.
    • I just assumed that after he was stopped from taking the whip onto the airplane, he just stopped taking it incase he got dragged into something like this or Kickassia, and needed to fly somewhere quickly. The reviewers are generally depicted as being fairly Genre Savvy when it comes things like that.
• Rule of Funny aside, why did Todd suddenly start having problems seeing in Part 3? He seemed fine before the whole quest started and he was wearing his mask the whole time.
  • He can't see who he's fighting, he can see when there's someone (or something) to fight. He can just make out figures, is all. He's been following the crowd because there's a big bunch of slightly darker spots moving in front of him.
    • And he could identify Malecite as dressing like a Run DMC member. What the hell?
      • Hmm... in the middle of a fight, people tend to sweat. When people in tight eye-covering masks sweat, either the sweat gets into their eyes or the cloth becomes more opaque.
        • Or perhaps he made some adjustment to the mask in between parts 3 and 4 when he realized they would actually be fighting things.
        • Or perhaps one of his two masks somehow got twisted around during the actual fight. He seemed to recognize the Cloaks just fine at the beginning of the fight, after all. And after the fight, he could have straightened it out and been more careful.
• So... is the Critic's costume decision to forego pants purely for Rule of Funny? I know he's Mr. Fanservice to some viewers, but to others he's not. Has anyone from the site ever hinted at a reason?
  • I guess both for the joke and to show off his long legs. And I'm not just saying that because I'm a fangirl, women on the site have said how nice they are.
  • Most likely, Critic has never worn a skirt before. He's not used to it and didn't even realize that it was an issue.
  • Ya well at least the real Link wore pants in some of the games.
  • Maybe he tried on the tights but it felt too wrong for him and decided to just wear a skirt.
  • Yes. The commentary confirms that the whole reason the Critic chose Link and his tunic/skirt was for that joke. And given the cold weather, Doug has since decided that it was not worth the joke.
• How did Angry Joe pull that machine gun out of his ass?
  • Trouser Space.
  • Ass Shove
  • In Part 6, he has two in his back (Lupa gets the spare).
• Why would they say there's no Santa Claus. They've met Santa Christ.
  • Santa Christ is Santa mixed with Jesus, slightly different from just Santa Claus.
• Shouldn't Chester A. Bum have been invited to participate in the quest? He's technically a reviewer for the site.
  • He probably couldn't afford his own fantasy costume.
  • The fake contest where they all won a car seemed like the Critic's way of basically inviting them to his adventure. He didn't send one to Ma-Ti, so he probably didn't send one to Chester. Most likely he figured the seventeen he invited were enough or the best possible people.
• Why doesn't the Critic recognize Jaffers as a dead ringer for his own brother? Ditto any of the other cases of reused actors. You'd think they'd hang that lampshade sometime or another.
  • He's never complained that Chester, Ask That Guy, and Dominic look exactly like himself before...
  • Jaffers may be a dead ringer for Doug Walker's brother, but the Nostalgia Critic's brother is a dinosaur.
  • He never noticed that Mike or Santa Christ looked like his brother, why would Jaffers be any different?
• How did Suede get recruited into being one of the obstacles?
  • Easy money- Turns out his Mormon church was just a cover...
  • Maybe he isn't a Guardian/obstacle and that's just what he wants them to think.
    • Jossed. Jaffers recognizes him as one of his guardians. He explains that the last guardian got a job elsewhere and that he's just the temp.
    • Plus that temp thing also explains that he could easily have just picked up the Guardian job recently. That would explain where he's been since February( when he said he would come back according to this very wiki). I seriously doubt he could have stayed in Chicago for two years without The Critic seeing him and I doubt that when the guardians go for food they wear their outfits(or they might just not care, but you can't eat though a mask).
• Malecite tracks the original map correct, not the photocopy. So, if it's a chainletter, shouldn't the Critic's original map have also been a photocopy?
  • It was said that Malecite sent the map to the critic and placed a tracking spell on it. It's possible that he places tracking spells on every map he sends out. Team A's map however, was created by the Critic.
    • Also he would have probably printed it out. It's possible it was basically a magical computer virus, and could be printed, but copying didn't carry it over.
      • Or to make it simpler, considering who sent it, he placed a spell on the map with the chain letter before putting it in an envelope and placing it in a mailbox.
      • Malecite probably placed it on Team B's map before he gave it back to them, since he seemed surprised to find the copy where he did.
        • He was surprised that it wasn't in the possession of the team he'd been stalking. If the spell hadn't been cast, he wouldn't have found the girl so quickly.
• How did the Critic know how to read the spell?
  • Maybe his costume gave him the ability to read magical alphabets.
  • Maybe Jaffers had written the translation on the post-it note?
• How could the car drivers beep and whistle to Jew Wario flashing his codpiece if he had his back turned toward them?
  • Rule of Funny.
  • The Goblin King's package is just that huge and that glorious.
  • The car was coming from the side and might have seen the profile.
• Why does the magic gun shoot bullets? On Atop The Fourth Wall it shoots lasers.
  • It's magic, so it doesn't need to be explained?
  • The magic gun seems to have multiple modes of fire. There is one episode on AT4W where is shoots a bullet-like shot; forget the comic in question, but the gag was about shooting at people as a form of hello (or something to that extent).
  • The spirit in the gun probably decides what the gun is going to shoot, and is getting into the less advanced setting fun
  • It is possible that now that Linkara knows magic uses up a bit of life force he realizes that his magic gun doesn't have unlimited ammunition and only as many magic shots as the gun's spirit has remaining lifeforce. He may be conserving magic shots for more important matters or to spare the spirit of the gun
    • • He's used the gun for 3+ Years, and the girl who was sacrificed parents spent her whole life planning this. Presumabley the weapon was made specifically to bypass the Cast from Hit Points drawback, or else it wouldn't be worth all of that effort. Plus it was shown magic has a drain on the living, but there's no telling how it works with spirits, and the spirt could very well have a infinite supply.
      • It's also possibly that only Black Magic drains your lifeforce. Linkara uses the magic gun for (mostly) heroic purposes, whereas Malecite is using magic to slaughter people. Adding further credence to this, we've seen numerous other characters using magic without the drawback.
  • Malecite and others use magic from their life force without use of other tools. Malecite looks for his gauntlet to bypass said limit. Why wouldn't same apply to Linkara's gun? He doesn't use magic without it, so gun just bypasses "Cast from Hit Points" rule, but instead of allowing all magic, it limits to shooting stuff.
    • Linkara has used magic for things other than firing the gun before--mainly as one-off gags (like teleporting with a snap of his fingers to beat up Douchey McNitpick). In those cases, he's probably "channeling" the gun's magic.
  • In the commentary Linkara mentions that Doug still doesn't realize that his gun doesn't fire bullets. Also he says that his hat protects him from the negative effects of magic.
  • In Doug's commentary on the DVD he admitted that he does know that the Magic Gun doesn't shoot bullets but he likes using that effect instead.
  • From his twitter:It's magic - it can shoot many things.
• Not that I didn't enjoy it, but why was the Critic just standing there both times when Jaffers was about to kill him? Was it just to let Phelous and Spoony's team be Big Damn Heroes?
• Between Joe, Linkara and Lupa, we have three characters who are perfectly willing to break character when it means they can pull a gun and start shooting. Combat Pragmatist is a trope, after all. But keeping in mind the trope's page image, isn't it odd that Snob never even considered the possibility in-character? (Of course, considering he couldn't even bring a whip...)
  • It's possible he simply doesn't have a gun - He used a pea-shooter in Kickassia, remember.
  • When Malecite pulled the elaborate posing with his staff, I was totally expecting a subversion of the Why Don't Ya Just Shoot Him gag from Raiders. Missed Subversion of Awesome?
    • Not really, since it would come after Linkara, Jow & Lupa shooting Malecite to no avail. Whilst they could have rearranged the scene so that the Snob shot first, it would make Linkara trying the same thing redundant.
  • Well no, to linkara it'd make sense. Normal gun? worthless. Magic gun would equal kicking of ass
• "He's a Frenchman pretending to be an Austrian! That will confuse the enemies!" Were they expecting to encounter enemies?
  • Well yeah, The Critic probably didn't think it would be a straight shot, he just didn't think that the threats would be serious.
• When exactly did that GNN newscast take place? Jaffers said he's been trapped for 30 years. Was that tape from 30 years ago?
  • Yes. The president being shot was Reagan.
• Why didn't Dr. Insano or Beary ever appear?
  • Spoony really isn't interested in becoming Insano again, and putting such a man of SCIENCE! in front of Malecite would be suicidal. As for Beary, he didn't show up because Krom was busy.
• Where exactly was the letter that Chester A. Bum got addressed to in order to get to him?
  • Critic met Chester in the woods, so he knew where to find him. It is possible that he just delivered the letter himself or left it lying near the tree he saw Chester hiding behind of.
• So Marz knows the character's name is San. Even if she didn't have time to correct the mistake in the script, why didn't she just SAY San when she said her line?
  • Marz didn't have a lot of time to rewrite her lines in Japanese, and may have presumed that not a lot of people would know who San is. On the other hand, Princess Mononoke sounds more familiar.
  • Besides, it is really THAT wrong? I mean, San is the eponymous Princess Mononoke, no? It's just that (if I recall correctly) that's a Red Baron given to her by the villagers she and the animal gods were fighting, so maybe she wouldn't use it to refer to herself. Then again, the real San did never bite people in the groin either, did she?
    • If you want to be really anal, San never referred to herself as "Princess Mononoke", and this nickname given to her by the Irontown's inhabitants translates more accurately as "Princess of the Mononoke". Just chuck it up to Rule of Funny; note how many others in the group also refer to themselves by the name of the actor rather than the character, or get the name wrong entirely.
      • In that case, why not just say "I am San, the Princess of the Mononoke."?
    • she also calls her self the daughter of Gillian Anderson in the same sentence IIRC so it could just be seen as a joke.
• Why does Linkara think it's impossible to bring Ma-Ti back to life, when he himself brought Spoony back to life with nothing left of him but a lump of grey protoplasm?
  • Linkara tries to keep his own stories mostly out of the team crossovers. Even if that does lead to Reed Richards Is Useless. Besides, after that Tear Jerker, do we really need a moment of Death Is Cheap? The Necronomicon is probably only mentioned to end on a more hopeful note.
    • You know you live in a Crapsack World when The Necronomicon is used to end "on a more hopeful note."
  • Well, even then, Suede probably picked up some magic from the other obstacles (thus is dramatic sudden entrance), and the spirit of the Gun is probably an ample power source for a resurrection spell. I believe there even was a spell for that in Malechite's book.
  • Also, Spoony might have rejected the idea due to personal experience. After all, he had his own clone problems.
  • Not to mention Phelous' cloning facilities. And Linkara's Phoenix Downs.
    • You mean the one Phoenix Down he had that he used on Black Lantern Spoony in the Blackest Night crossover?
  • Phelous aside, Team TGWTG has had some really bad experiences with cloning: So far it's unleashed a Black Lantern and a Quasi-Demonic Entity respectively. As sad as Mai-Ti's death is, the crew knows damn well that there's only a slim chance they won't end up with a Came Back Wrong situation, even if the Necronomicon has just as much of a chance of going wrong, the crew has no experience with it so theres no telling what will happen, thus giving The Critic hope even if we know how bad it could go.
    • This troper also forgot to mention that The Critic, Spoony and Linkara were all affected by Dark Nella, meaning that the Critic, who presumably was told about Nella coming back so he wouldn't shoot her or something, knows how bad a cloning can go and given that he was the most heavily affected by Ma-Ti's death, he wouldn't want him to come back as some sort of monster, which to be fair is what's happened so far, both to the original body and the clone body, so The Critic would rather bet on something he's only vaguely heard about that Linkara forgot to mention the nightmarish downside too.
• Malecite's iPhone. He's supposed to hate all tech, but he carries one of those. Yeah, the team calls him out on it, but that doesn't seem enough to cover that Out-of-Character Moment. Did he think Apple makes little black devices with magic, or is technology really that addictive?
  • Well, think about this. The only way that Malecite knows about Nostalgia Critic is that if he's been on the Internet and figured out Nostalgia Critic could find the gauntlet. In other words, he's been on the Internet and used technology.
  • I feels like it's a case of knowing your enemy. How else would be know about all the details he claimed in his rants? The iPhone is like a disarmed bomb you uncovered from your enemies territory and brought into your trenches for examining.
  • The whole joke is that he's a complete, stupid hypocrite. He's just as dependent on modern technology as everybody else is, he just refuses to admit it. He also wears factory-made sunglasses and hitchhikes in modern vehicles.
    • Not to mention his clothes, coat, and hat, all of which were undoubtedly made in modern clothing factories and textile plants.
  • The whole "hypocrite" thing threw the Malecite character off. You're telling me someone that blows people up for cell phones and kills people for GPS can overlook something on it's own? No. That goes from excellent villain to too unbelievable to comprehend.
    • To be fair he probably got most of his hatred from Working at a Starbucks, the center of people absorbed with technology and spending years presumably working similar jobs. He probably ONLY uses the phone on his iPhone and probably just uses tech to get by. He's just so far removed from humanity he doesn't see the hypocritical part and it actually makes him even worse as a person. It's still somewhat frustrating though.
      • The whole point is he's Not So Different from everyone else but is too blinded by anger to see it.
    • He's smart enough to know that this world is almost entirely dependent on technology, and that he too must use it simply to get by until his goal of a magic-based world is achieved.
  • Every time Malecite uses magic, it drains his life energy. He probably started using modern tech because it was less dangerous than using his natural scrying abilities, and rationalized it by saying that he had to stay alive for long enough to find the gem. The final confrontation is probably the first time he realizes that he's become as dependent on it as the people he despises.
    • • • I'd like to note it was actually a EVO 4G. The Corners are too square and the Micro USB and HDMI ports give it away.
  • Maybye he has the same excuse as Mandarin in 90's Iron Man cartoon? Hates technology to the point of trying to destroy it all but is not a fanatic (as Mandarin put it) and will use it if it's necessary?
• Why didn't the fight against the group one and Jaffer's group end as soon as Linkara pulled out his gun? Was he just a really bad shot?
  • They probably blocked the shots with their swords (like Cloak One did when Joe brought out his Uzi), or they used their magic to heal/block his attacks
  • Since the Cloaks, the Witch, Cat, and the Voice were all trying to protect the Gauntlet (just like the teams were), perhaps the spirit in the gun didn't see them as enemies and didn't actually shoot them, just making a bang so Linkara would think the gun had gone off.
    • Or perhaps it changed it's ammo to rubber bullets. (I think Linkara would notice if the gun did nothing at all.)
• In the final battle, why didn't Malecite just kill all the good guys with that badass lightning attack he used to kill the witch and Cat in one shot? He even had his gauntlet, so there was no downside to using magic anymore.
  • Now that Malecite has the gauntlet, nothing can stop him (or so he thinks), so he decides to toy with them a little before he kills them so they know just how screwed they are.
  • Malecite could have killed the Guardians since he knew that they pose the greatest threat to him. He may also have been so egotistical that he wanted witnesses to him destroying the World of Technology.
• Speaking of lightning attacks, Joe has one. Joe uses his machine gun, yes, but no lightning from Joe?
  • According to the commentary, Doug just doesn't have the time to watch everyone's videos, so he doesn't know about what powers and storylines everyone has. It's most likely that he simply doesn't know about Joe's lightning.
• When Ma-Ti first lands a successful blow on Malecite, how did Critic remember the conversion with the Voice of the Ancient World, when that was Group 2 that did that, and not his group?
  • Part 5 ends with Suede beginning to explain Malecite to Group 1. They likely both heard the same story. Could've been addressed, though...
    • I had a similar question to ask that ends with a similar theory. Basically, why did Critic make a proud speech about defending technology? He had no idea that Malecite was going around murdering random people. The whole magic vs. science backstory speech was heard by Spoony's group. Not even Jaffers mentioned the whole anti-tech thing, as far as I recall; he spent more time discussing Malecite's connection to real magic. If the answer to this question is also Suede, it's worrisome that none of the other obstacles brought it up at any point, because I doubt he had more knowledge than the rest of them.
      • Jaffers wanted to kill them just for being on the internet. I find it a bit odd that Critic's intelligence came rushing back after he had that Link rant (misery makes you smart?), but you could put two and two together.
• Did the Voice of the Ancient World provide visuals to Spoony's group? They didn't learn from Jaffers that the "Run DMC" guy was Malecite, and as ominous as he seemed, their only interaction with him beforehand was when he returned the map to Jew Wario and disappeared on them. Hardly the kind of thing to warrant their "oh crap" reaction at the end of part 6, unless they learned that he was Malecite... which wasn't explicitly made clear by the Voice unless they actually saw the same drawn artwork we did and noticed a resemblance. (Also, I conclude that Spoony didn't really deserve to be smacked by Critic, since he never heard anything about the tracking spells. But that's in-character for Critic.)
  • That's probably it. Really it's an ancient talking ball of light, it probably transmitted images along with the words telepathically. It also has a bit of a temper like it's voice actor and probably got tired of people complaining about long stories without pictures or something similar.
• I get that Suede was just filling in, but how did Jaffers recruit the Last Angry Geek? Wouldn't he have been an infant at the time of Jaffer's imprisonment? Cat's puppeteer looked pretty young, too.
  • Maybe the guy living in Jaffer's house recruited them. He clearly knew about the "quest thing," so maybe he continued the LARP in a half-assed way.
    • Maybe the original obstacles recruited replacements when they started to get old and so on and so on.
• Shouldn't Jaffers be a bit more depressed by what's happened since he was imprisoned? He did use the internet, so it's hard to believe that he didn't look up what happened while he was sealed away. After all, The Eighties alone had the Challenger explosion, Tianenmen Square, Chernobyl, tacky fasion, and many other things
  • His character's played for comedy, so it wouldn't really fit. Besides, I thought it was established that he had no life outside of whatever his interests were, so it probably didn't really affect him much.
  • Also if him being the Critic's Shadow Archetype was intentional, that would also explain it. Critic has never really been great with priorities.
  • You know there are people who actually lived through all those things and are still alive today, right? If they aren't all crippled with depression, why should Jaffers be any different?
    • Fish Out of Temporal Water
• Many of those reviewers have their own sites. Wouldn't they just keep reviewing if they got fired?
  • Critic's pathetic and wants to believe he has power. He wouldn't fire anyone anyway. And I think that on some level, they wanted to do it. They're just as greedy and self-obsessed as he is, and why get such elaborate costumes if they're not bothered?
  • For Spoony or the Snob, being fired might not be such a big deal, but for many of the critics on the site being on TGWTG means a serious increase in public exposure that they probably wouldn't get if they just went back to their own sites or posting on YouTube. Not to mention that, as we've seen, being fired from the site carries something of a stigma--how many subscribers does "Riz's Rave Reviews" have, again?
• As even Lindsay mentioned in the commentary, why did the Critic take his tie off when running to Ma-Ti? To make the image of him sitting by the body even more fricking depressing?
  • I figure it's supposed to be like taking your hat off in respect but his tie is far more iconic and is actually part of his normal costume unlike the link hat.
  • Actually it was because when they filmed that scene Doug had forgotten to wear the tie and no one noticed. Rather than film the whole thing again they just quickly filmed the scene where he takes the tie off.
• Why in the commentary does Bennett refer to the events of Kickassia as taking place "Elseworld"? There have been more than enough references in Linkara and Critic's videos^[1] to establish that Kickassia takes place in "our" reality.
• Why did the Nostalgia Critic say Chick Fil A should stop serving Christians? (I'm not trying to start an edit war, I just want to know if it was a joke or a Take That or what?
  • I think it was just a joke.
  • Probably just a joke, but it still felt quite pointed. I would say, judging by the company's anti-gay marriage policy and the site's open-minded view on things, it was against that... but we'll have to wait for the commentary.
    • Considering Angry Joe's irritation about not being able to eat there on Sundays it's probably both a Take That and a call back.
• Why did Benzaie & Film Brain fall for the car scam? They live on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, for crying out loud!
  • It's most likely that Film Brain didn't need to be tricked into coming. Critic would pretty much just need to snap his finger and Film Brain would come running. Otherwise, it's just Rule of Funny.
  • Most of the cast members are just really stupid. Linkara even comments on it in his commentary with Iron Liz.
• If the GNN report about Jaffers was from 1981, why did Jaffers house have a laptop stuck to the wall?
  • Um...he had a primitive version of the Power Glove...maybe he got those from secret government labs, too? Honestly, you're just not supposed to notice.
  • That guy living in Jaffers' house put it up there, obviously.
    • Yes, but they were there in the GNN news footage from the early 1980s.
• Tell me I'm not crazy here but... one of the drawings of Malecite from the backstory was actually just a traced and recolored version of the Sorcerer picture from the Dungeons and Dragons 3.0 Edition Player's Handbook, isn't it?
  • According to the Linkara/Liz commentary, yes it was.
• The book Jaffers was trapped in had a resurrection spell. Why didn't they use that instead of going out looking for the Necronomicon?
  • It's entirely possible that 'Resurrection' was a poorly chosen name considering that its main purpose was to free a man from a book.
• Very nitpicky, but the rant Doug went on about Zelda, comparing her to other "princesses that do nothing" falls on deaf ears. Has he (the character or the writer) not played much of the newer games? (Hell, even the 10-years-old Ocarina of Time or The Wind Waker, for that matter)
  • Rule of Funny or he thinks this is how Link sees Zelda and was getting too much into character.
  • In the commentary, there was some debate as to how familiar with The Legend of Zelda series. It's possible he hasn't played any of those games. Either that, or it's his pet peeve about how royal girls keep the title of "princess" when they should be queen. (He made a similar rant about Princess Lana and that she dodged royal responsibility, even though she was running her country).
  • Yeah, I'm fully aware of his pet peeves with "princesses who take responsibility". Just not how it applies to Zelda post-Ocarina of Time. Besides, Link's duty is fighting the Ultimate Evil and preventing Hyrule's destruction (mostly), rather than saving Zelda.
  • I have the impression that Doug only played the 2D Zelda games in his childhood, and he hasn't played any of the newer ones. He probably have heard about them but doesn't know all the plot details or specifics. His comment about the chickens attacking him sounds more like something from Alttp, and he's just the right age for being a SNES kid(also notice he calls them chickens and not cuccos, like in all the games after Ocarina of Time). And well, character developtment and everything, Zelda does still get kidnapped a lot (but she's no Peach, definately!)
  • It'd hardly be the first time the Critic Did Not Do the Research.
• When Ma-Ti showed up and yelled Heart the first time before confronting Malecite, why didn't his ring shoot a beam of energy. It was his second time that it happened, neither time did he expect something to happen, so shouldn't it have worked sooner?
  • Most of his introduction scenes have him holding his ring in the air. Perhaps it only fires when it's aimed at Malecite?
• How DOES the Critic intent to revive Ma-Ti anyway, Necronomicon or not? They cremated him. In 9 out of 10 Fantasy universes, Necromancy requires the original corpse.
  • It's Necronomicon! Read The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, and learn a method of necromantic resurrection that requires reducing the body into "primal saltes" first, either from decayed dust or burned ashes.
    • That still doesn't really answer much. Unless the Star Trek parody extends to landing on a nearby planet or moon, Ma-Ti's ashes are somewhere in deep space.
• How exactly was Malecite ever confused by the riddles? From what little we hear they sound fairly straightforward^[2]. For that matter, why did Jaffers see any need to leave clues behind?
  • Maybe Malecite was just lazy and didn't want to do the actual work? Or maybe the map wasn't obviously in the Chicago area to anyone not antiquated with it, so he needed to find someone who knew where all those roads were?
  • Once Jaffers hid the gauntlet and was banished into the book, the only people who knew where it was hidden were the obstacles. Since they weren't likely to tell Malecite where it was hidden and Malecite wasn't pure of heart enough to be able to translate the riddles, he had to wait for someone to come along who could find it for him.
    • Or, alternatively, we get a shot of Malecite staring at the field early in the movie. Perhaps he knew where it was hidden, but Jaffers had put a spell on the Stormdrain of Secrets that prevented Malecite from withdrawing the gauntlet, leading him to search for a catspaw.
• Why is it that the DVD cover doesen't have Suede in it?
  • Because his appearance is supposed to be a surprise. Him being on the cover would be a spoiler.
  • But it would be a Late Arrival Spoiler since he's already back.
    • He is on it, he's got his tentacle mask thing from the trailer on.
      • Special Edition only, so my question is still unanswered.
• Why is it that both Tom and Mickey remember Suede if they joined the site after he went into his mission?
  • Just because they hadn't joined the site yet doesn't mean they couldn't have watched his old episodes.

1. ↑ (not to mention the possible call backs of Film Brain's asskissing behavior and Joe's Big No reaction to seeing his fellow reviewers gathered)
2. ↑ Yes, in real life it's probably because they didn't have much time to spend on riddles