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Sherlock Holmes (2009)

Irene is an ancestor of Carmen Sandiego.

World class thief, affable, classy, and the first time she shows up she's wearing red. Anyone else see this?

Irene Adler is Carmen Sandiego.

The one with a Time Machine, to be precise. She traveled to Holmes' time on some random scheme but stuck around upon realizing she finally found an opponent who can give her the thrill she's always sought.

Hugh Laurie will have a cameo in the sequel.

As Mycroft, and he'll mock Holmes by telling him that what he does is impossible, or, it'll never catch on.

  • More fitting, Mycroft will be played by Stephen Fry. Come on, It would be Awesome!
    • This here, ladies and gentlemen, has just been confirmed.
      • As a real-life WMG, I suggest that the person who thought of that is a psychic or a Time Lord showing off knowledge of the future, or that the person doing the casting is a Troper.
  • I second that motion.

Moriarty is an Assassin.

The wrist-mounted gun? A more refined version of Leonardo's hidden blade launcher. By this logic, Lord Blackwood and the rest of the secret order are Templars.

Holmes has ADHD.

The utter chaos that we see inside his head during the restaurant scene, for example.

  • Also in the ballroom scene in the second film where he's dancing with Sim:

Sim: What do you see?
Sherlock: Everything...it is my curse.

A future Sequel will involve World War I and the Germans

In large part because I have been waiting for a good adaption to it, but mostly because it would fit the pace of the new series.

  • But Holmes would be pretty old by then, don't you think? World War One began in 1914, whereas Holmes' endeavors ended that same year.
    • He would be getting up there in age, but even if we accept a far longer timeline (rather than having Holmes spring up fully formed on the Year Zero of a Study in Scarlet) he would still have been at most higher-middle age. And while the canon books DO end in 1914, even if we disinclude absolutely all of the books afterwards, it is a stretch to believe that a rather able-bodied man who is so obsessed that he drugs himself into a stupor whenever he doesn't have a case would quite while he is ahead. And even for the era, the characters would be middle aged, which even back then did not mean old, infirm, or otherwise incapable of doing "heavy lifting." To illustrate, if we take the age of the actors and advance them ahead to the appropriate time the main trio (RD Jr.,Watson/Law, and Mc Adams) would be 66, 59, and 53 respectively. Certainly not young by any measure, but even by the standards of the era still capable (for reference, by 1918 the OHL had been putting into action plans to expand the draft limit to being 75 years of age, and while part of that may have been from their state of collapse at the time, they still believed they could fight). At the time of the actual armistace, they would be even younger. . (note to self, find ways to respond to responses without generating a massive Wall of Text everytime you hit the edit button).
      • No, this is perfect, then Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry could play the aged Sherlock and Watson and all this troper's dreams would have come true.
        • Remember also that Holmes is younger than Watson. Robert Downey Jr.'s age compared to that of Jude Law could just display how Holmes bedraggles himself in ways that Watson does not.
        • In the Conan Doyle canon, Holmes is born in 1854 and solves the last case in the summer of 1914 (His Last Bow), uncovering a German spy, afterwards he retired from detective work and turned to beekeeping.

Moriarty is involved with the German government and General Staff

In the German Empire, the General Staff was practically the shadow government, more powerful than civilian administration, with no legal obligation to give any explanation on how funds were used, responsible only to the Emperor himself, very aggressive and determined to have their way at all cost. They invested heavily in espionage, military research and collaborated closely with industrial barons. Moriarty bought or acquired by other means Meinhard's factory, which is guarded by men with obvious military training, discipline and knowledge of modern heavy weaponry, most of them, at least those whose faces are closely shown, being middle-aged, old enough to have been veterans of the war of 1871. It would be nearly impossible to run this without involvement of the General Staff and their unofficial permission.

Someone in the production crew is a troper

  • Stephen Fry is Mycroft and Moriarty's plan in the sequel is to start World War One. Someone there has obviously been reading this page.

In the film's universe, Lord Blackwood was Jack the Ripper

This has to be self-evident. The film is set right around the time the Whitechapel murders happened. We know that Blackwood killed 5 women before being caught. Now, how can we accept an universe where Sherlock Holmes does exist, but that such a notorious crime in London goes unsolved?

Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows (2011)

The third movie will involve some kind of crossover with Doyle's The Lost World

At the very least, Professor Challenger will show up either as Holmes' antagonist, as his client, or as an ally in his latest case. Genre Shift aside, it would fit the current movement of the story--since Holmes is now presumed dead, and he seems to be planning on leaving Watson to his marriage, it would be a perfect time for him to get out of England for some Walking the Earth. What better time to have him wind up on a mysterious Deserted Island filled with dinosaurs? And, of course...EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs.

The third movie will be a loose adaptation of The Hound of the Baskervilles

After being presumed dead, Holmes will get out of London and lay low for a while in Devonshire, but he'll be pulled into the old detecting game when Charles Baskerville, the master of a nearby manor, turns up dead. In this version, the Baskerville Hound will be used as a sort of personal "bogeyman" for Holmes, representing the fear of death and the unknown that has plagued him ever since his brush with death at Reichenbach Falls. Proving the Hound a hoax will be his way of "exorcising" this fear and getting to a point where he can make peace with his mortality.

The Reason Holmes Was in Drag was to Protect Mary

According to the trailer, Holmes was dressed up in Mary's clothes and a wig. He figured that Watson was in danger so Holmes took Mary off the train. Put on her clothes and makeup to help Watson while keeping Mary out of harms way. He probably had Mycroft or Lestrade make sure she was safe while he went off to help Watson.

  • Well, he certainly did get her out of harm's way....

Holmes was an Irishman by birth

"The university" does not refer to either Oxford or Cambridge, but to Trinity College, Dublin. He mentions that he is descended from "country squires," though he refrains from mentioning WHICH country. He at least once mentions an interest in the Celtic languages. There was definitely a well-known Holmes family in Galway during that period (Robert Holmes, the famous barrister). The biggest piece of evidence can be found in his retiring years; Holmes gives up the hustle and bustle of city life to spend his days divided "between philosophy and agriculture" in a decidedly ascetic manner, much like the so-called "Green Martyrs" of 4th and 5th century Ireland.

Naturally, due to the bigotry that an Irishman would have faced in Victorian London, Holmes kept his heritage a secret even from Watson.

Moriarty and/or Col. Moran are Irishmen by birth

Most obviously both 'Moriarty' and 'Moran' are definitely Irish surnames - the former is from Co. Kerry, the later from Co. Mayo. Morever both would have been born either just before or during the Great Famine which would have been unlikely to engineer positive feelings towards Britain in them. In turn this bitterness towards Britain would eventually lead to crime.

  • Moran as a disgruntled Irishman goes against canon. In The Adventure Of The Empty House Doyle openly says he had been born in London and enjoyed a privileged birth and early life, as son of Sir Augustus Moran, British Minister to Persia.

Irene is not dead.

(a) We never see a body. (b) She is still moving when Moriarty takes the handkerchief. (c) Moriarty lied about the tuberculosis; who's to say he wasn't lying again to hurt Holmes? (d) Moriarty put the queen back on the chessboard after Holmes left the room.

  • My guess? She's locked up somewhere, in very poor health from being poisoned, waiting for rescue. The rescue will drive the plot of the third movie.
  • Or perhaps Irene pulled the same trick Holmes did when he "died" for the same reason, both in the original stories and in the film. She faked death, stayed under the radar to avoid being attacked again, didn't inform anybody to keep the illusion up, and will come back in time when the inevitable sequel rolls around. Strange minds do think alike, of course.
  • Considering this page's record so far, let's hope. Nobody likes a bridge dropping.
  • Also, Moran was there too, and we don't see him leave. Maybe he's about to cart Irene off to wherever Moriarty has planned.
  • Also, note Sherlock's reaction to the handkerchief on the ferry. He sniffs it, smiles briefly, then throws it overboard. This suggests either that he knows she isn't dead or he's saying goodbye. This leaves the director with wriggle room to bring her back if necessary.
    • Let's not forget that René's supposed blood in the letter was actually wine. Sherlock might as well have detected that Irene's blood on the handkerchief is fake and smiled to himself. Coming from the woman who outwitted Holmes himself in the past, she would know better than thinking that Moriarty would let her go freely and Faked the Dead in order to escape him.
  • 'Also' also, the whole plot of the first movie revolves around the idea that there is a method of faking death good enough to fool a professional doctor. I mean, Irene was there, and she wasn't dumb.

Games of Shadows is on a Donnie Darko Style time loop

For some reason. due to Moriarty, a tear in time is made. Causing the events from the beginning(except the typewriting parts) of the movie,to the end of the movie on the water fall. Causing Holmes and Moriarty to gain supernatural powers. The visions that Holmes sees are from past experiences he can barely remember. That why he we was talking about the repress memories a the Gypsies tent. And how he knew where to throw Watson wife. The reason the maid heard difference voices come from his room is he was talking to a Frank like being. The Asteroid book is the time travel book that Donnie had. Though only Holmes and fin the truth in the book. Moriarty also has these powers. Being the one that open the time loop And at the end Holmes manages to win and survive the fall because he stop Moriarty. Closing the time loop by taking something out(Moriarty) and putting something back in(Holmes). Thus having enough superpowers left to survive for a happy ending.

Holmes was at his own funeral.

Would it not be hilarious for Holmes to be there in disguise? It certainly seems like something he'd do.

    • I would be surprised if he wasn't.

The four main characters are secretly the four main ones from Doctor Who

  • Holmes is the Eleventh Doctor, Irene is River, Watson is Rory, and Mary is Amy. They all act like them so very much.

Moriarty is alive

  • Bear with me here, but there is a distinct possibility. Holmes is shown to survive the fall from the castle by using the oxygen device he ostensibly took from Mycroft. This got me wondering - why on earth would Mycroft have had one in the first place? Simple - the altitude of the castle meant the air would be thin. Thus, all the guests of summit would likely have had such a device - including Moriarty.
    • Mycroft is a Bunny Ears Lawyer for one of the most mysterious parts of the British intelligence system, and quite actively lazy (even in the books, if I recall correctly). I took it to mean that his carrying a personal oxygen tank was simply a sign of his eccentricity, the way a modern version of him might carry an asthma inhaler with 32 gigabytes of memory and a temple massager, or, yes, some rich/famous people hire someone to follow their entourage with an oxygen tank in case they feel like taking a hit off of it to spruce up their thinking ability. That does not invalidate the possibility that other guests took the same precaution, be they for similar or more practical reasons (the latter being primarily tight waist cinches and thin air, especially in an environment with dancing and dramatics). Also, [1].

The next movie will take place in the 22nd Century

And Holmes will not be a Fish Out of Temporal Water due to him being from an era of Steampunk. Of course he will miss Watson

  1. ↑ "An example that is almost completely spoilered out doesn't work very well as an example."
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