Final Fantasy VI/WMG
Terra dies at the beginning of the game.
The entire game is a dream she is having while dying.
- Hey, that's boring! You can stick this WMG literally anywhere and claim anything is someone's Dying Dream.
- ...Conceded.
The old man you talk to outside of Sabin's Cabin is Duncan in disguise.
Trickster Mentor, anyone?
Clyde murdered Baram.
If I were wandering around killing people for money because it was all I thought I was good at, it would have to be for a pretty dang good reason. All we're given as a means of knowing about what happened between them are Shadow's nightmares, and who's to say he's being honest with himself during a nightmare?
Celes succeeded in her suicide attempt.
The bandanna bandaged bird that woke her up was casting Raise on her. There are Chicken Lizard things in the World of Balance that can cast Quake; you can't tell me it's silly that a bird could cast Raise.
- Actually, after Cid dies Celes is the last woman on earth (Kefka succeeded in destroying all sapient life), and all that takes place after her suicide is actually in Purgatory.
Kefka is the Joker's Great Grandfather
- Because they both act the same.
Kefka deliberately threw the final battle.
When the party confronts Kefka at the end of the game, Kefka is practically a god. In the cutscene prior to the battle, Kefka toys with the party, throwing them around, and generally showing that they don't stand a chance against him. Yet, the final battle is generally regarded as one of the easiest in the Final Fantasy series, almost to the point of being a joke. Why? There's only one good explanation (aside from Gameplay and Story Segregation, of course) - Kefka decided to lose.
Let me explain. At the game's halfway point, Kefka manages to achieve every Evil Overlord's dream. He plots to gain ultimate power, and actually gets it. He doesn't just dream about destroying the world, he actually does it! As the Cult of Kefka would say, he succeeded where Sephiroth failed. You are now his slave forever and ever. Kefka won. End of story. Game over.
Only it's not over. Having achieved everything he ever wanted, Kefka has nothing left to do that's worth doing, nothing left to gain that's worth gaining, and nothing even left to destroy that's worth destroying. Everything is pointless, and what's even worse is that there are still people out there that don't realize it! They have nothing left to live for, and they still fight! Kefka doesn't understand this, and that makes him angry. Killing their bodies would be an empty victory; only killing their spirit, killing their hope, and making them feel the same despair that he does would be enough to satisfy him. Hence why he didn't even blow up the Falcon with his all-powerful Light of Judgement despite having plenty of time to do so, or actually let Celes die of despair in Solitary Island, instead he allowed her to have a hope spot just for his plan to send her to Room 101 and stamp her face with a boot for ever. What would satisfy the God of Despair himself more than creating Despair Event Horizon right there in the heroes' highest hopes? However, as the final cutscene makes clear, no matter how much power Kefka has, no matter what Kefka does, the party will never, ever give up their hope. Faced with something that can't be destroyed, Kefka's hatred turns inward; rather than live with the memory of something more powerful than he can ever be, he gives up and commits suicide by allowing the party to kill him.
- Suicide, you say? That is what you could expect from a massively nihilistic Nietzsche Wannabe.
- In this case, Kefka's tactic is just like the Anti-Spiral's: instead of outright obliterating them with divine power before the heroes get to take a level in badass, crush their hopes forever by beating them in their own game. And in both, this tactic will prove to be a Villain Ball.
- There might have been a bit of Taking You with Me, as well. Kefka probably knew that his death would mean the end of all magic (and possibly Terra's life), too. So from his perspective, even though he'd have technically lost, he would be destroying the party's leader and their greatest tool for healing the world, all in one swoop.
- Kefka proclaims that he will create a monument to non-existence. What's more destructive than self-destruction? From his own perspective, he destroyed all life, hope and dreams from the universe by dying.
Edgar is gay.
He's handsome, a genius inventor, and a king, yet no girls over the age of 12 will go near him. His outrageously inept flirting must be a trick to drive women away. I suspect that, once upon a time, a woman actually tried to take him to bed, found out the truth, and then told everyone else in Figaro Castle, which would also explain why all the girls stay away from him.
- Well the cutscene following the death of General Leo * did* have Edgar explaining that he and the others were tipped off to the Emperor's deception by a barmaid that he had gotten friendly with.
- ...At which point he loudly insists that he was a perfect gentleman. Maybe he keeps making a fuss over his sex drive to hide the fact that he's asexual.
- In the GBA translation, he also tells Relm to wait a eight years until she's legal, and then he'll get back to her.
- On medieval times?
- High Fantasy is pretty timeless. Besides, the setting seems more reminiscent of a cross between Olive Garden with Intrepid Merchants (Figaro), Feudal Japan (Doma, yet it's mixed with Cyan's olde englishe), Darkest Africa (the Veldt, it even comes with African folk music, but thankfully avoiding that trope's more Unfortunate Implications), Urban Segregation (Jidoor vs. Zozo with surprisingly sturdy-looking skyscrapers), Steampunk (practically everywhere but especially Figaro, Vector and Narshe) and The Gay Nineties (household technology), with lots of Schizo-Tech to go around (Come on, the Empire has mecha and genetic engineering (Celes' implied origin) yet they still use carrier pigeons? Well if one has Magitek he can easily build an Internet for starters). Overall, the world feels less Middle Ages and more post-Renaissance, with sprinkled pieces of pure Anachronism Stew and that make the setting difficult to pin to any real world time period. Basically, the story can get away with anything it pleases, including certain modern-style laws like age of consent.
- He actually says "Here's hoping you're still around in eight years, kid." I think the dialogue was supposed to be suggesting that that Relm was hitting on him...
- On medieval times?
Sabin is gay.
While pretty much the whole party gets in on purchasing new clothes for Gau, Sabin is the only one who seems to venture a discerning opinion about what Gau should actually wear, and refers to the whole process as a "make-over". Plus it was his idea. He also never expresses any interest in any of the female party members, or in any girls at all, and is the only adult male human in the cast who doesn't at least have SOME obvious hetero interest; Edgar is a womanizer, Locke arguably has Terra and/or Celes (and definitely had Rachel), Cyan had a wife and son and had a correspondence-courtship with Lola, Shadow had at least a female lover. His lack of open interest in the ladies might just be because he's a monk, but still...
- "Bodybuilder? I'll take that as a compliment." Yeah, he's gay.
- I played a bit of the fan-translation hack of Final Fantasy VI and I am pretty sure Terra called Sabin a Bear.
- That was also in the more literal GBA translation. Plus, bears are a subculture of gay men.
- Go and watch the "Licentious Howler" scene in the GBA version. Sabin writes off his suppressed sex drive as a perk of his years of ascetic training. So yeah, it's 'cause he's a monk.
- It should be noted that Sabin trained in the mountains with two other men (and perhaps more unnamed ones as well). Aesthetic means the study of beauty in nature/art/taste. It only stands to reason that when he says, 'Aesthetic training in the mountains' that Sabin is referring to the other men. To him, they may be beautiful, thus, the statement that would be allowed to slip past game ratings and the undiscerning eye unnoticed.
- Psst, psst... Sabin said "ascetic," not "aesthetic." Completely different words, completely different meanings.
- That said, it was very common in less accepting times for sexual minorities to join religious orders in an effort to supress their desires.
- Psst, psst... Sabin said "ascetic," not "aesthetic." Completely different words, completely different meanings.
- It should be noted that Sabin trained in the mountains with two other men (and perhaps more unnamed ones as well). Aesthetic means the study of beauty in nature/art/taste. It only stands to reason that when he says, 'Aesthetic training in the mountains' that Sabin is referring to the other men. To him, they may be beautiful, thus, the statement that would be allowed to slip past game ratings and the undiscerning eye unnoticed.
- I played a bit of the fan-translation hack of Final Fantasy VI and I am pretty sure Terra called Sabin a Bear.
- While I think it's unlikely that this would be true even though the game DOESN'T handle it like it does everything else (suicide, teen pregnancy, etc.), it might be worth mentioning that when visiting Duncan's house before Mt. Koltz, Edgar recognizes Sabin's favorite flowers, tea, and china set. Might just be a case of Real Men Wear Pink, though.
Gogo is Daryl/Gestahl/Adlai Stevenson.
He can't just be a plotless reference to FFV! Because...uh...hey, look behind you! A three-headed monkey!
- I always had my suspisions about old Adlai...
- Personally, I've always liked the Gogo is Banon theory, as its never explained what happens to him...
- I'm more partial to a recent theory that says that Go Go is the old leader of the bandits from Figaro jail. Not only does it make sense, but the person who made the theory even has in-game proof to back up his claim.
- Hold on a tic... that makes a lot of sense. Didn't the bandits say their leader was eaten by a sandworm? Well, what is Zone Eater?
- One theory I have is that Gogo is an amnesiac Gilgamesh in disguise. Why Gilgamesh? The outfit worn by Gogo is roughly like what Gilgamesh would wear fully covered up; Gilga's penchant for carrying multiple weapons of past (and future) Final Fantasy games' Heroes lends credit to the additional theory that he actually can use all these various different weapons, and can Mime other attacks, but chooses to focus on Weapons instead of everything on the table (Which neatly ties into why he took over for Odin in Final Fantasy VIII as the Guardian Force and was able to do the same job and attacks). Plus, he regularly travels between Dimensions (Showing up in IV, V, VIII, IX, XII canonically). Why is he Amnesiac? Dimension travelling probably took a toll on him after a while, or maybe he just hit his head. So, given his Amnesia, Gilgamesh took on the name Gogo, and now Mimics everything instead of just Weapons skills.
- How do you know the chronological order of the games if they're in different Dimensions? What's to say this isn't the end of Gilgamesh's story and he never remembered how to leave?
- This has been jossed in the GBA release: Gilgamesh is an esper.
- Exactly when does Gilgamesh appear in FFIV canonically?
- I'm of the opinion that it is the very same Gogo from FFV. After he Banished himself, he was thrown across the dimensional rift, and ended up in the FFVI dimension... where he was promptly eaten by Zone Eater.
- Given that's apparently what happened to Gilgamesh, it's as good a theory as any.
- Fridge Brilliance: Gogo was refining his art to the next level, and Mimiced Gilgamesh's crossover.
- Given that's apparently what happened to Gilgamesh, it's as good a theory as any.
- Though I like the leader of the bandits as Gogo theory now, when I played through it the first time, I couldn't get it out of my head that Gogo was Baram, Shadow's old partner. Mostly because we never actually saw him die...
- 'Cause the empire probably got him. I say Gogo is the one from V, but also became the thief leader (the thieves tried to mimic him thieving), then he got eaten. Why was he thieving? Maybe he saw Locke from afar and tried to mimic him.
- I'm more partial to a recent theory that says that Go Go is the old leader of the bandits from Figaro jail. Not only does it make sense, but the person who made the theory even has in-game proof to back up his claim.
- I am a diehard Adlai Stevenson theorist, even though some of the evidence in favor was bogus. No reason why he couldn't also be the Gogo from FFV.
- Gogo isn't Daryl. Gogo is Clyde, and Shadow is Setzer's old flame. Interceptor just happens to like all little painter girls he meets.
- An aside: the Memento Ring item, which is full of "memories of [Relm's] departed mother," can only be equipped by Shadow, Relm... and Gogo. Make of that what you will.
- Actually, I tried that for the SNES, and it didn't let Gogo equip the memento ring.
- Gogo is Mario. You get him by going through a Zone Eater (WARP ZONE PIPE). Then you face enemies dressed in green suits (LUIGI). To get past them you have to jump from platform to platform. If you're hit you fall off the screen with your hands up and a look of extreme surprise (SUPER MARIO BROS). Then you have to move through an area with a falling ceiling, finding the holes in the ceiling to survive (SUPER MARIO BROS 3 SUBCASTLES). Items you receive while in this area include a red jacket (obvious), a fake mustache (obvious), a magical brush (MARIO PAINT), a cape (SUPER MARIO WORLD), and a tack STAR (obvious). The clincher? The Mario Theme's official name is "GO GO MARIO".
- On top of that, as far as I know, Mario has ALWAYS been a jack-of-all-trades, ideal for being a mimic. And I've always wondered why the item is called "Fake Mustache." It goes deeper. Gogo's only viable weapons are flails and rods, which are the closest FF 6 gets to hammers, Mario's signature weapon. Not saying I believe the theory, but still.
The Eight Dragons were not evil.
Think about it. What did the Eight Dragons ever do that was evil? Aside from holding up an opera, none of the Dragons really did anything other then wander about their home. Humbaba and Death Gaze were menaces; attacking orphanages and raining death from the skies, but there was no indication that the Dragons planned to do anything other then sit around their homes. The party always made the first move, always chose to start the fight. Especially with Earth Dragon: if he was hostile to begin with, why did he wait for the party to pick themselves up before attacking? The party doesn't kill them to defend anyone, or because they were attacked; the only reason they have to fight them is because they were released on the Day of Ruin like Humbaba and Deathgaze, so they must be evil menaces that have to die, right? But it's all OK, because once they're all dead, you get a shiny new piece of magicite, and that justifies everything, right? And then in the remake, the party hunts them down to their afterlife and slaughters them again. Kaiser Dragon pretty much spells it out for you when you face him: the party have been slaughtering his people for no reason, and then continued to defile their resting place. Oops.
- If you're going to start moralising about killing monsters, that imp you condemned to a horrible, frothing disease death by testing out Bio on him has a civil lawsuit for you. Heck, in Chrono Trigger you kill a LOT of enemies who'd likely leave you alone otherwise.
- It's mainly just the fact that Kaiser goes all What the Hell, Hero? on you that gets me thinking about the Dragons.
- Of course, that's only because Kaiser is closely bonded to the other dragons, apparently being related to them in some way. Although, caring about family members on the grounds of them being family members aren't exactly something evil creatures are known for...
- It's mainly just the fact that Kaiser goes all What the Hell, Hero? on you that gets me thinking about the Dragons.
Crusader is Sealed Evil in a Can.
Related to the above theory, the Esper Crusader is actually an evil force that was sealed away by the Dragons for good reason. The esper is morally sketchy to begin with; a move called "cleansing" that deals extreme damage to friend and foe alike. The esper is most likely a Knight Templar that sought to eliminate all of dragonkind because they believed them to be evil that must be eradicated. The Eightfold Seal was the dragons' attempt to seal this danger away, with Kaiser personally entering into a Sysiphus Vs Rock deal to keep the Crusader in check after the two of them were sealed. Over time, Crusader eventually died and became magicite, but the danger of the magicite was deemed enough for the dragons to continue guarding the seal. Until the party released it by killing them. All of this makes the party's actions even more damning in Kaiser's eyes: these filthy bloodthirsty humans slaughter his brethren and release the dangerous Esper, and then they have the gall to come into their sanctuary and kill them all over again? They're no better then Crusader itself.
- Another thing many forget, is that the Espers where created by the energies of the Warring Triad changing animals and other things into powerful beings, they then began warring with each other under the guidance of the Triad. After the Triad became sealed, the espers no longer had a reason to fight. My theory is that Crusader wished to continue to fight, in fact if you noticed there are three of them that could easily be analogs for the Triad themselves. They could of been the champions of each faction who refuse to stop fighting, and were so powerful they wiped out those around them like their Gods. Thus the sealing.
Gau is a Half-Human Hybrid. He is half-whatever Gogo is.
Gau's sprite and character art show him to have pointed ears, fangs, and (in the Amano art, at least) a little bit of FUR on his elbows and knees; while it could be that this is the result of being in near-constant Rage mode for twelve or so years, it's more likely that he was born with them, leading his father to throw him onto the Veldt. Living so close to the Veldt, Gau's mother could well have come into contact with any number of creatures-- after all, monsters from all over the world naturally migrate to the Veldt. She met Gogo, and living alone with a mentally unstable husband, she was lonely and wanted some affection from this mysterious stranger. Gogo Mimed her Seduction ability, and she got pregnant with Gau as a result; sometime afterward, Gogo was swallowed by a Zone Eater on the Veldt, which returned to its natural habitat on Triangle Island. When Gau was born, he looked entirely normal for someone of Gogo's species, prompting his father to abandon him. Gau's Rage ability is an overly-developed and highly-specialized Mime ability that he inherited from his biological father.
Most Espers had their emotions sealed/dampened.
There was some discussion on the Bugs Me page about whether Espers are capable of love, and some showing, at least in some translations, a lack of emotion. We know they were originally used as weapons by the three Goddesses, and whether they have an innate love for destruction is a key plot point in Dissidia. Having been weapons for so long, and by this theory naturally drawn to violence, many espers either chose to, or forcibly, sealed or reduced their emotions, in order to ensure such urges wouldn't endanger their new peace.
Terra is gay.
She seems confused by Edgar's flirting and even says "I guess a normal girl would have found him charming, but I'm hardly normal", she never hits it off or even shows interest in Locke and then there's the Les Yay with Celes.
- Probably not. The reason why she's confused by Edgar's flirting is because she's just had the Slave Crown removed by Arvis. In the Japanese translation (not sure about the GBA because I haven't played in a while) Arvis says that the Crown dampens her emotions. In other words, it dulls any fear, empathy, or love that she might have otherwise felt while wearing it. Also, she's just escaped from the Empire: the only non-grunts she might have ran across were Gestahl, Kefka, Leo, and Cid. YMMV regarding Locke and the Les Yay with Celes; I saw waaay more Foe Yay with Leo, to be honest.
- Also, fan speculation is that Terra's Esper heritage made it hard for her to feel emotions like love. Example of this is when she asks Celes, the only other magic user she knows at the time "Can you love?" Not "have you?", but "can you?" She honestly wants to know if it has something to do with magic.
- Yeah I kinda doubt that theory is true. For one no actual woman would have found Edgar charming and the whole thing with Celes, as explained above makes sense in context.
Celes and Maria are really the same person.
Celes apparently looks exactly like Maria, sounds exactly like Maria, and is able to sing opera well enough to pose as Maria. Further, the real Maria never shows up, and nobody claims to have even heard from her while Celes is with your party. Celes agrees to the impersonation plan rather quickly, after seeming to resist for all of a few seconds. Opera isn't something a beginner can just take up and instantly master. To be able to perform that well during the opera scene, Celes must really be a professional opera singer with years of training. Due to her genetic augmentation and magitek infusions, Celes may not have needed much combat training to perform her military duties, which may have allowed her enough free time during her off-duty hours to pursue a secondary career as an opera singer. Perhaps she has a teleport spell that lets her get to and from the opera house quickly. But she may be embarrassed about her passion for opera, fearing it may clash with the "tough chick" image she tries to project among her military comrades, so she hides this side of herself by taking on a different name and pretending to be someone else.
- Out of my head, boy!
- Strangely enough, she does have a secret teleport spell she doesn't tell people about: When Kefka catches up with the party under the magitek factory, she teleports away with him. Needless to say, she doesn't have this power when she's under your control, so she must be keeping it secret for some reason.
Kefka was still firing the Light of Judgment during the final battle
In the event that the "Kefka threw the battle" theory above isn't true, then this was probably why he lost. The heroes give their World of Cardboard Speech, which causes Kefka to lose whatever modicum of restraint he has left and fires the Light of Judgment upon the world, seeking to eliminate the heroes' remaining sources of hope (and everything that happens to be in between them), prompting the heroes to attack. When they get to the top of the tower, Kefka's still using Light of Judgment as he fights, thinking that once everything's destroyed, the heroes will have no other option than to succumb to dispair (or the Light will cause an Earthshattering Kaboom, whichever comes first). Kind of a Weaksauce Weakness, since it basically boils down to Kefka trying and failing to multitask, but it makes sense.
- That makes a lot of sense; I can easily imagine that Kefka had simply become too damn crazy to fight properly, blowing up random parts of the landscape instead of focusing his power on the people trying to kill him.
- I can completely buy that he would decide to go for broke and do it all at once, rather than pacing himself.
Terra, Kefka, and Celes are sterile.
Think about it. None of them has any kids, two of them constantly run from any feelings of connection, and all of them are magic-users through unusual circumstance. This leads me to believe that the Magitek infusion process leaves the subject completely sterile. Celes copes with this by insisting she cannot love someone. This is why she hurls herself off the cliff when she believes she's the last person alive. Even if there was another male, she wouldn't be able to further the race.
Terra, being half-esper/half-human, is sterile simply by being a hybrid, much like a mule. She also copes by insisting she cannot feel love. This slowly grows into her becoming a motherly figure to the orphaned children at Mobliz, til Duane and Katarin have their own child and assure her they can take care of the kids.
Kefka, on the other hand, does not take this as well. He copes by being a complete sociopath, hiding his misery with a facade of insanity and glee in causing pain. He kills others without mercy or honor, when he becomes a God-like being he does his best to leave children parent-less. Whereas the first two hid from their problem, Kefka embraces it as an excuse to hurt and kill.
To contrast, Relm and Strago are both Magic-users, and Strago obviously had kids who eventually had Relm.
- The fact that Terra and Celes don't have children doesn't mean they are sterile, and there is actually no logical reason to they they are. They are both 18 years old, so unless they wanted to be in "16 and pregnant" its obvious they don't have children. I got the age from the Final Fantasy wiki which DOES need citations and official info, so unless it's been wrong for several years, then that's their age (I think it was from a manual book or something).
- Unfortunately, the game contradicts this theory: Relm is Shadow's daughter and he is not related to Strago. There is no mention of Strago ever having kids of his own that I'm aware of.
- Strago could be Relm's maternal grandfather though (i.e. her mom was Strago's daughter.) The magic has to come from somewhere, and several people outright tell you that the reason people can do magic there is because of heredity.
- Yes, but a random woman in Thamasa tells you a secret - that Relm isn't actually Strago's granddaughter, but the granddaughter of a friend.
- BUT what a random woman in town tells you doesn't mean that a whole town full of magic users (a town founded after the war ended ONE THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE THE GAME) can't have children. They obviously can and no theory that says "What if they are immortal?" fits because Strago tells you very clear that the power of magic is WEAKENING in their blood with each generation, that's why Stragon can only naturally use Lores and Relm can only paint, because the magic is weaker. So it's obvious that the magic-using people of Thamasa can have children.
- Strago could be Relm's maternal grandfather though (i.e. her mom was Strago's daughter.) The magic has to come from somewhere, and several people outright tell you that the reason people can do magic there is because of heredity.
- Not having kids in-game doesn't exactly say much about whether the characters are sterile. We only ever see the birth of two people in game (Terra and Duane and Katarin's kid) and only three of the playable characters are parents (provided again that you buy that Strago really is Relm's grandfather.) It's not like the aforementioned characters are repeatedly getting it on with someone offscreen. The "Terra's a genetic hybrid and therefore sterile" argument makes sense though.
- Doesn't work the original Japanese (or at least the fan translation I read) has Emperor Gestahl say this on the Floating Continent: "My Celes. Come to my side. You alone are different. You and Kefka are to leave behind magical children that will sustain the Supreme Gestahl Empire!" It is likely that he would know.
- He wants them to make magibabies in the Advance script as well. That pretty much shoots this theory down, honestly.
- Does he want them to make magibabies separately, or rather does he...?
The Esper whose power was used to infuse Kefka was evil, while the Esper whose power was used on Celes was good.
It isn't that the operation was imperfect in Kefka's case, it's just that the Esper's personality affects the subject's. Therefore, Celes' decision to turn against the empire was fueled by a conscience given by her operation just like how Kefka's decision to destroy the world was fueled by madness gained from his.
- They actually said that he was driven mad by the infusion/operation due to the unperfected methods as he volunteered immediately after hearing about it.
- I know. That's why it's a WMG: I want to offer an alternate viewpoint to the canon.
- That makes a lot of sense.
Banon and Duncan were the same person.
Think about it, we get no backstory for Banon, none at all. And he and Duncan share the same sprite, Duncan just has a different color palette. Sure, you could chalk it up to being lazy, but remember that when Edgar was using the alias Gerad, he used the same sprite as normal with a different color palette. So why not pull the same trick with Duncan and Banon, use the same sprite but different palettes to hint they're the same guy? Think about it, if they were the same person, then Duncan would easily be found by the Empire as a famous martial arts master. So he makes up an alias, and whenever the Returners refer to their leader, they use his alias "Banon" to keep his identity secret. When Vargas "killed" Duncan, he took the chance to drop out of sight and devote his full energy to the Returners - remember that the timeframe when Vargas killed Duncan more or less lines up with Locke rescuing Terra, so if we assume he sent word to Banon of this young woman who could use magic, it makes sense Duncan would use the "death" excuse to vanish and take on the Banon persona full-time. This is why Banon vanishes in Vector when the Floating Continent rises, he's going back to hide under the Duncan persona again. This is also why, despite the fact he's supposedly alive the whole time, we never see Duncan in the World of Balance - because we do see him, as Banon.
- But then why doesn't Sabin say anything?
- Simple - he knew, he was in on it. Being that Terra never knew who Duncan was it would make no sense to point it out to her. The people who ought to have been told Duncan was Banon knew, and the people who didn't need to know weren't told. Even Duncan's wife mentioning he's dead fits in with the idea that the "Duncan" persona is dead while he assumes the Banon persona to lead the Returners.
- That's actually not a bad theory. When you meet Duncan in the World of Ruin, he doesn't say a word about Vargas, even though that was a far more obvious reason for him to be dead than The End of the World as We Know It.
- That also explains something that has always bugged me a bit, why Sabin was immediately accepted as part of the returners. Locke and Edgar had already been shown to be members, Terra being recruited is part of the story but Sabin just seems to be along for the ride for no real reason. If he was already secretly a member already then there would be no reason to try and recruit him.
- Simple - he knew, he was in on it. Being that Terra never knew who Duncan was it would make no sense to point it out to her. The people who ought to have been told Duncan was Banon knew, and the people who didn't need to know weren't told. Even Duncan's wife mentioning he's dead fits in with the idea that the "Duncan" persona is dead while he assumes the Banon persona to lead the Returners.
Celes and Maria are twins.
We know that the two of them look amazingly alike and we have no idea of who Celes' parents are. So how about this, the Chere family objects to what Gestahl is doing so he sends troops to arrest them for treason. Not all of them are able to escape and when Celes is captured they decide to use her to test the Magitek infusion process.
Clyde and Baram were lovers.
In a case of Bi the Way, as Clyde seems to like ladies too if he banged Relm's mom. Anyway, Shadow's last line in the ending is translated different ways depending on release, but the literal translation from Japanese was "I don't need to flee anymore. Embrace me warmly."
Lone Wolf is really Baram.
After Clyde abandoned Baram at the foot of Baren Falls, Baram was brought back to full health in an act of mercy by the Esper Fenrir using his own power, which is why Lone Wolf is a talking wolf. Fenrir lived on the Veldt, but was killed when the world was ruined, leaving behind only his Magicite in Mobliz.
Celes is a Figaro.
The reason why Sabin and Celes look so much like each other is not just a passing resemblance, but because Celes was genetically engineered from the King and Queen of Figaro during a time of war, wanting to humiliate Figaro by using the ruler's seed against him. This would make Celes the younger sister of Edgar and Sabin.
Edgar is not a Figaro.
Edgar is not related to Sabin or their parents at all. In a time when the Empire was at war with both Figaro and Doma (who were allies), Cyan (who was in his 20s) lost his first wife during an Imperial raid. She was never found or identified, but was actually a vegetative pregnant Jane Doe who came into Figaro's care from out of the war zone. She gave birth on the same day as the pregnant Queen, and since the woman would never wake up, the King and Queen of Figaro adopted her baby and raised their own son and the other boy as twin brothers. Sabin resembles their father much more than Edgar does. Cyan later married Elayne and had another son, Owain. Yeah, this one is a real Epileptic Trees, I admit. But I've been Wild Mass Guessing Final Fantasy VI since 1994.
- Okay, granted, WMG is fun, but what's the point of this? Nobody ever says that Edgar doesn't look like the rest of his family, or that he looks like Cyan. Sure, Sabin is said to look like his father, but hey, I look more like my father than my brother does. He probably just takes after his mother or something.
There are two Kefkas.
Kefka was described as a good man before his experimental Magitek infusion, and then turned abruptly into a Monster Clown. What if this was because there was a piece of Magicite lodged inside his brain? Then, what if, once he seized control of the Goddesses and assumed his One-Winged Angel form, he disposed of his old body as having served its purpose? (I admit this sounds Naraku-like, but I seriously thought of this before ever seeing Inuyasha.) Then, no longer caring, this body got up of its own will and wandered off. It is the old good Kefka, with no more Magicite in his brain. So even as the True Companions fought against the One-Winged Angel Kefka who ruled from Kefka's tower, there's a second non-evil human Kefka wandering around somewhere in the world. Yay, a theory that's both Epileptic Trees and Fan Wank!
- Alternatively, you had to wait for Shadow on the floating continent because he finished off Kefka's human body, and Kefka's spirit drained the Triad of their powers. What you see at the top of his tower is a physical manifestation of his godlike powers.
- I had a similar theory, 'cept the "Good Old Kefka" gotten eaten by a sand worm named Zone Eater. Knowing how Evil!Kefka would ruin fuck over everything, he donned a cowl and called himself Gogo. I thought of this cause they share almost the same sprite cept the face, and the art for Gogo could easily be Kefka's plus a hood. Fridge Brilliance sets in when you think about how one is an Monster Clown and the other is a Kind Mime...
- I actually saw a fanfiction about this theory!
Shadow lives.
My honest original Alternative Character Interpretation, before arriving on the Internet and discovering most other people believed differently. In the end, when Shadow abandons the party and says he doesn't want to run away anymore, he doesn't commit suicide, but rather takes off his mask and settles down somewhere to start over with an honest life. He may or may not have ever returned to Relm.
- I second that theory, mainly cause he interpreted the dreams as Baram wanting Clyde to live. He took the name Shadow to hide from whoever was after him in that scene.
- I (this entry's author) always assumed that Clyde and Baram's heist was from Doma. But Doma's toast now. Though now I wonder -- if Doma gave rise to the Returners (as the script seems to suggest), could the stolen money have been from the Returners' treasury? Maybe that's why Shadow says he's worn out his welcome and leaves if you try to take him to Narshe during the World of Balance (the second time you pick him up, from Kohlingen). Does anyone else have any particular other theory why Shadow was avoiding Narshe?
Kefka created the Void.
In his quest to create his Monument To Nonexistence, Kefka created (or became) the Void, but it was sealed in the Interdimensional Rift, and harnessed by Enuo and Exdeath on another world.
Banon is Gestahl's son.
Banon was originally Gestahl's son, but stole much of Vector's wealth and defected to Doma where he founded the Returners as a combined rebel/resistance group against Gestahl's regime. The Returners would later remove to the Sabil Mountains after prolonged warfare between the Empire and Doma.
Locke is Banon's son.
Locke was born in Doma to Banon and a Returner woman from Kohlingen (who may or may not have also been Banon's wife), but the mother and child returned to Kohlingen. As war with the Empire became drawn out, the Returners left Doma for the Sabil Mountains. Locke was originally indifferent to the Returners (and to Banon), but after Rachel was killed in an Imperial attack on Kohlingen, Locke joined the Returners.
Kefka is the son of Locke and Celes.
Sometime after the events of Final Fantasy VI, Locke and Celes bear a son, and Cid gives him the name Kefka, after the good man (and friend to Cid) who Kefka originally was before the botched Magitek experiment turned him into a Monster Clown. Later, toddler Kefka is pulled into the Void and is luckily quickly thrown out, but the Time Compression dropped him in the vicinity of Vector decades in the past. He grows up as Kefka Palazzo, a man two decades older than Locke. No, I had never read Marvel Universe at the time I came up with this particular WMG.
- Essential craziness aside, and assuming Cid is alive, naming a kid Kefka after the World of Ruin would probably be like naming a kid Adolf after WWII. Times ten. You can't really Anakin Skywalker/Solo it, since the name was straight-up the one he used while he was a cackling god of unspeakable horror. Also, that really makes the emperor's 'I want you and Celes to have magi-babies' speech even worse...
- The theory presumes that no one really knew where Kefka originally came from, except that he came through the Void. And yes, Kefka+Celes magi-babies is Squicky, whether or not they were already related. That wasn't lost on me. And though Corrupted!Kefka was horrible, the fact that he became evil only after a Magitek accident makes him more of a Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds.
The Magi are Half Human Hybrids.
The Magi of 1000 years before (and their descendants the Mages of Thamasa) were originally much earlier Half Human Hybrids of humans and Espers, which explains their secret ancient ability to use magic even without the assistance of Magitek or Magicite. Though the Thamasans were primarily endogamous to maintain their secret, their magical ability was gradually diluted through occasional intermarriage with ordinary human outsiders. Both the dilution of blood and the discipline of generations of experience made it possible for Thamasans to keep from losing control of their magical sides -- but even then, no modern Thamasan is as powerful a half-Esper as Terra is.
The World of Balance has continental drift margins.
At the western edge of the western-most continent, and at the eastern edge of the eastern-most continent, the shapes of the lands are such that they just about fit together, like South America with Africa.
- Chalk that one up to the original War of the Magi. The world before that might well have been one prosperous continent that was subsequently split apart and reduced to a barren wasteland.
- (Fridge Brilliance moment...) I hadn't actually thought of the drift being that recent, but it makes perfect sense. That opens awesome possibilities for the layout of the pre-Magi world map.
Kefka is Baram.
Kefka grew up in a crappy orphanage, where he learned to steal and fight to survive. As he grows up, he is noticed by someone in the Empire, and is taken in to become a soldier. He grows up more and becomes a general, etc etc. When the Espers were discovered, he was prepared to become the first Magitek knight. However, it seems unlikely that Cid and the Emperor Geshtal hadn't experimented at all before trying it on one of the best soldiers, so they probably tried weaker Espers on weak animals or criminals, and Kefka got to see the results, which were likely filled with Body Horror and insanity. The esper he was to be infused with was also probably out of control. It freaked him out badly and he ran away, hoping to escape the experiment. Government propaganda covered his escape as him going on a mission or something. Kefka drew upon his past experience of thieving and fighting, and became a robber with the name of Baram. He met Clyde, etc etc., until he gets injured. He begs to be killed, because he remembers what the Esper infusions did to the subjects, and wants to escape that fate. Clyde leaves him behind, and he gets brought to the Empire, where he is forced to become a Magitek knight. His anger and feelings of betrayal are amplified by the Esper's anger, causing him to snap and become permanently hatefilled and angry, as well as insane. Also, both Baram and Kefka lose self-control when they see their blood: Baram breaks down when he's injured, and Kefka goes berserk when Celes stabs him. [1]
- So Shadow tried to make amends by finishing Kefka/Baram off on the floating continent? Interesting theory.
- That... is disturbingly plausible.
- I have to admit, I don't favor this theory and even I have to say it's surprisingly plausible. Good job.
Narshe is a hydrothermal field.
I always believed that all those clouds rising from the buildings in Narshe were not smoke, but hydrothermal steam from heated water underground. Narshe uses it much the way they do in Japan, Iceland or New Zealand, as both a heat and energy source, which is especially useful since it always seems to be winter there. The Narshe area may be partially volcanically active, with Hailfire Peaks. The more active volcanic areas would be useless (and unsafe) for mining, but adjacent extinct volcanoes might be lucrative areas of geothermally-placed ore deposits, with just enough geothermal activity to heat some of the water table and provide a steady source of hot water that can be piped where it's needed. The anachronism of burning fireplaces in Narshe buildings however either suggests that they're part of the overall abstraction of the available tiles in limited graphical tilesets (and the fireplaces look awesome), or that much of that steam is in fact...smoke (from either wood or fossil fuels). What do you think, steam or smoke?
- I believe one of the townspeople says flat-out that Narshe is kept warm by geothermal devices.
Wrexsoul orchestrated Kefka's rise to Godhood.
Remember Wrexsoul? The being who craved despair, who positively fed on ones with no hope? Well, he craved more despair than existed in the world at the time. But what could he do? He had no power in the material world. Only in people's psyches could he do anything of note. Now, he could manipulate others, by a method similar to mind control. However, it only worked on those whose minds had fallen so far as to provide no resistance to Wrexsoul. Now, who could this work on? Kefka! Wrexsoul could force this mad clown to usurp the powers of the Gods, telling him what to do. Then, when Kefka became a God and destroyed half the world, Wrexsoul would feed on the despair of those eking a wretched existence in this World of Ruin. It was a brilliant plan, but unfortunately, fourteen adventurers put a stop to it.
Kefka is an evil clone of the Sixth Doctor.
At some point in his sixth incarnation, The Doctor came to the world where the game takes place, and, long story short, Emperor Gestahl got ahold of some of his DNA, created a clone, and fused it with magic. The end result was pretty much an exaggerated version of the Sixth Doctor, with magical powers.
Tritoch is Terra's distant ancestor.
Maduin, her father, teaches Bolt2, Ice2, and Fire2. Tritoch teaches Bolt3, Ice3, and Fire3. Tritoch's magic is stronger because he was a soldier in the War of the Magi, and Maduin wasn't quite as martial. Tritoch is a bird-dragon-thing and Maduin is a Final Fantasy V-style gigas, but who knows how appearance gets determined with Espers?
Terra is, as of the ending, a clone of her mother
Her esper nature vanished when magic did, leaving only her human nature. Her human side came entirely from her mother. Ergo, with everything she inherited from her father gone, she should be 100% identical to her mother, or at least functionally a clone.
- She'd only have half of her mother's DNA. Even if that half was duplicated to "fill in the blanks", that wouldn't make her genetically identical to her mother, since the duplicate genes wouldn't all be the same alleles as the ones she didn't inherit.
- An Esper Did It. Well technically, A Human And An Esper Did It. Honestly though, this isn't the worst idea, but I think that Espers would have to have a physical portion including DNA -- at least that can interact tangibly with non-magical DNA. See my WMG entry "The Magi are Half Human Hybrids." further up. This entry though (not the other one I just mentioned) raises some interesting concepts, which I might address in a future WMG entry.
Mog will have a single son...
The empire had a number of genetic experiments in operation.
After Kefka's less-than-perfect magical infusion, the empire started experimenting with various orphaned or unwanted infants, modifying their genes to make them more receptive to the process. Maria and Celes were originally part of the same test group. At some point, Maria was found unsuitable, and shunted off into some side project for imperial cannon-fodder before escaping and capitalizing on her looks and singing talents. This is why Maria and Celes not only look uncannily similar, but also have the same singing voice (or at least one similar enough to fool an audience). They were both bred to be weapons AND symbols for the empire, beautiful, deadly, good public speakers, etc. Someone who could look inspirational and captivating as she gave the emperor's orders.
Expanding on the idea, some of the genes they were modified with were actually Terra's, as Terra, being a hybrid, provided the perfect example of a body capable of handling the Espers' magic.
Maybe Daryl was even part of the same project, before she made her own escape - it would explain why Setzer developed such a fast and hard fixation on Maria and Celes, and seemed rather fond of Terra, too. Though that could also just be Setzer.
Clyde is Freddie Mercury.
Just looks at that face and tell me it isn't so. Also, this supports the Clyde/Baram ship mentioner earlier on this page.
- Wow. Relm's certainly got her father's pants.
There WILL be a Sequel.
It's just trapped in Development Hell. Everyone has idea's about it, and surely Square realizes it's one of (apart from VII) their most well-loved game. So why not?
Okay, first things first. It will be set eight-yrs-later, after the Party defeats Kefka (the eight years is mostly owning to Edgar's comment about Relm). It will start (and possibly stay) in Terra's POV. The world is being un-Crapsacked. Terra awakens in Mobliz one day, and has to save Duain and Katherine's child. However something weird happens in the battle. She can cast Fire! How? The Triad has been destroyed? Who knows where the other Espers have gone? And so, with Celes (the only other part of the main party that could use magic...until you get Strago) and the others, the Player sets out to find out why Magic has returned...
C'mon, Squeenix, give us a good sequel! (I'd like it to be for the Play Station 3 or the Wii).
- Nope! My prediction: it'll be for the PSP and won't get an export. And the graphics will be like FFVII's out-of-battle characters.
The world of FFVI is the very last Gilgamesh visits.
Considering Espers only turn into Magicite upon death...
- Unless he's only BEHAVING like an Esper (he turned into Magicite for gameplay reasons, but not in the universe) and he's really just hanging around in the wings (maybe even on the ship and unseen for the earlier reasons), until the moment he's needed, attacks, then goes back to chilling. Or a less funny but more realistic theory could be that he leaves the VI universe at the right time and its rules no longer apply to him. Or something.
- His Magicite is really a FAKE Magicite and what it really does is act like magic Void-spanning radio.
- When you consider that in Duodecim, when Gilgamesh enters the Dissidia world, he is bound by the rules of the cycle, means that he probably had to obey the rules of the FF 6 universe. When magic was gone, he reverted to normal, and left for the world of FF 8.
Kefka actually proceeded to create his own monument to destruction: The Instrumentality Sequence from Neon Genesis Evangelion
But because the party defeated him, Shinji survived. Both series are also set in worlds of ruin after Eldritch Abominations devastated them, and Eva-verse could represent Kefka's despair. Why not?
The Mayans predicted that 12/21/2012 will be the day of Kefka's return! On that day, he will complete his monument to non-existence!
What the title says. Prepare for the Second Coming of Kefka!!!
Terra has both Green Hair and Blonde hair
Her half esper nature gives her hair an unnatural green color for most of the game, a sign of her ethereal and partially otherworldly nature. But when Magic disappears from the world after Kefka's defeat, she loses that part of herself, which is signified by her hair becoming a more normal blonde. Therefore, both her in game appearance, and her Amano artwork appearance are her correct looks.
- I agree, except I think she only got green hair after she transformed for the first time.
- Except the game still depicts her with green hair in the ending, after magic disappears. Dissidia depicts her both ways, with blonde hair as the default appearance, and she still has her magic there.
Ultros wants to become a legitimate villain and is trying to achieve this by copying other villains
He admits when he's first seen that he's doing it for no reason and asks if that makes him a villain. In his second appearance, he learned Setzer was going to kidnap Maria and informed the opera house ahead of time. Ultros thought telling the victim ahead of time would make for a good calling card and tried to repeat it. In his third encounter, he attempts to steal the Warring Triad, items that the party would later seek. He mentions being rivals with Siegfried, a thief who stole an item the party sought earlier. Finally, he joins the Gestalt army, probably in the hopes of gaining rank and eventually usurping the emperor, which Kefka does not even an hour later.
- Back to Final Fantasy VI
- ↑ I know this reads like bad fanfiction, and I got the idea from a Youtube comment, but I don't think this has too much fridge logic.