Dragon Ball/Headscratchers/Anime Movies

• Why in Broly's first movie does Trunks describe him as a toothpick? I mean I know when he's under his father's control his power level seems relatively low but even in his normal form he's still taller and more muscular than everyone else.
  • It's all about the power level, stature and muscle mass mean very little at that point.

• At the end of Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan after Goku gets his ki-boost from Vegeta, he lunges at Broly yelling "Now the REAL fight begins!" He promptly punches Broly once about one second after declaring that and defeats him. How was one punch a real fight but the very very long battle preceding it not a real fight?
  • I know right? I waited 2 hours into the movie for the "real fight" and it was over in seconds.
  • Two hours? The entire movie lasted 1 hour and 10 minutes; no wonder you were disappointed, you must've been watching the wrong movie.
    • Not to mention that Broly should still have been able to beat goku in a pulp...

• The 2008 special. It may not be considered canon, but even if you don't take it too seriously, it's got it's share of problems. Like: why didn't Vegeta's brother have some kind of strong reaction to seeing Goku go SSJ? Even if he wouldn't recognize it for what it was, why didn't it at least garner some kind of "Dude, what's with the hair?" reaction?
  • He was probably too busy watching the numbers skyrocket on his scouter, a bit concerned by the small explosion on the side of his face, and too preoccupied with stopping the rapidly-approaching baddies, to really care where Goku was getting his power. In any other conditions, he most likely would have had a reaction of some sort. And he didn't seem very smart, either.
    • Also, he probably heard stories about SSJ Goku defeating Frieza.
      • He clearly hadn't heard anything of the sort - he believed Vegeta had been the one to defeat Frieza, remember?
  • And for that matter, why didn't somebody tell Vegeta's brother that Vegeta was not the one to defeat Frieza? Vegeta just glares every time it's mentioned, then lets it go. Accepting credit for something he didn't do may be Out of Character or not, depending on your interpretation. But why didn't somebody speak up? You'd think at least Piccolo or Tien would have said something, but nooo.
    • Things in short movies should serve the purpose of advancing the plot, or being entertaining or original. This isn't. So it is not mentioned.
      • The question is on an in-universe basis, though - not from the writers' standpoint. Given the characters' previous development, it seems like someone would have said something, or at the very least, sent a few weird looks their way.
    • They know Goku doesn't care about getting credit, so they don't care either. By that point in time, Frieza is like SO yesterday for them it doesn't matter WHO defeated him.
    • Actually, in the original Japanese, he doesn't say "you" (referring to Vegeta only) but rather "you guys." It's just a translating mistake.

• Cooler's Fifth Form doesn't actually make any sense. Frieza stated that he doesn't transform to get stronger, he actually transforms to get weaker in order for his body to contain his great power; thus his so called First Form is technically his Final Form and so forth. Cooler breaks this canonically stated rule by having his natural body possessing a transformation that takes him the wrong way. Before anyone says that we don't know that Cooler follows the same rules, he states himself that he possesses all of Frieza's transformations - meaning he too has the ability to transform backward into something weaker.
  • I don't think it's necessarily that they start in the fourth form and transform down so much as there are several available forms, and they can move between them at will. Frieza could only manage to get up to the fourth form--and I don't recall him ever saying it was his "original" form--while Cooler is stronger, and thus has a fifth form.
  • According to the Dragonball Wiki, Frieza's fourth form is indeed his true form. Cooler's fifth form, therefore, is probably a power distinct from the other transformations and is something more akin to the Super Saiyans- in other words, he's managed to push himself beyond what his race is normally capable of and achieved a very rare extra-powerful state. So he would then have his base form, three forms below it, and one form above it.
    • He doesn't need to have three forms below it, Freeza created those transformations, it wasn't natural.
    • But doesn't Cooler himself say he has all the same forms Frieza does?
      • Maybe they just don't have the same naming conventions for their forms. They all have 5 in total but maybe Frieza calls his ultimate form his 4th form while Cooler calls his ultimate form the 5th form.
      • It's implied he has those same transformations. We know that the 4th forms are in reality their true forms. It's possible that Cooler was simply so much better than Frieza that he could control his 4th form without any difficulty.
      • Or he's so much weaker than Frieza that he has no need for lower forms to contain his power. Goku was getting beat by Frieza 4th form and was breifly on par with Super Saiyan Goku. No compare this to Cooler who was getting smacked around before going to his 5th form and he was pretty much instasquashed by a Super Saiyan.
        • From the numbers I've seen, 100% 4th form Frieza was at 120 million, and 5th form Cooler was at 470 million. It's just a point that Goku had gotten that much stronger inbetween the Namek fight and facing Cooler, as evidence by his brief spar with Future Trunks after Trunks had completely curbstomped Cyborg-Frieza.
        • Freezer’s battle power was one million five hundred thousand while Goku’s was three million. Four hundred and seventy million is quite the exaggeration, seeing as Broly’s BP is thirty three million; enough to beat up the Super Saiyan 2 with ease. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to assume Cooler has a better control of his powers as well as having surpassed the limits by getting an extra transformation. Remember that his fifth form overwhelmed Goku with ease before he went Super Saiyan; after which the battle was just too short.
• Maybe this is clearer in the original Japanese but why does Bojack even come to Earth? It stretches suspension of belief to think he actually came to Earth to take vengence against the son of the student of one of the four warriors who imprisoned him years ago. He's not Broly where the guy is just nuts and it makes sense that Gotten looks enough like Goku to be attacked.
  • According to the Latin American version (which is often pretty faithful to the Japanese one) Bojack did not know Goku and Gohan or even made a mention of his imprisonment. In fact, most of his “motivation” is summed in a series of lines.

Bojack: Boy! The Earth is a good planet!
Bido: The Great Bojack has no enemies in the entire galaxy!
Zangya: Neither there will be in the most beautiful planet in the Milky Way! The Earth!
Bujin: All who oppose the Great Bojack must die.