1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball team

The 1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball team represented Georgetown University during the 1908-09 Intercollegiate Athletic Association of the United States college basketball season. Maurice Joyce coached the team in his second season as head coach.[1] Georgetown was an independent and – after its home opener at the Convention Hall at 5th and K Streets NW in downtown Washington, D.C., where it had played home games the previous season – played its home games at the Odd Fellows Hall at 8th and D Streets NW in downtown Washington.[2] The team finished the season with a record of 9-5.

1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball
Conference	Independent
1908–09 record	9–5
Head coach	Maurice Joyce (2nd season)
Captain	Fred Rice (1st year)
Home arena	Odd Fellows Hall

1908–09 IAAUS men's basketball independents standings
	Conf							Overall
Team	W		L		PCT			W		L		PCT
Illinois State		–			–			9	–	0		1.000
New York University		–			–			12	–	0		1.000
Ohio State		–			–			11	–	1		.917
Oregon State		–			–			10	–	1		.909
Duke		–			–			8	–	1		.889
Montana State		–			–			8	–	1		.889
Dayton		–			–			12	–	2		.857
Wake Forest		–			–			6	–	1		.857
Allegheny		–			–			11	–	2		.846
Washington		–			–			5	–	1		.833
Notre Dame		–			–			33	–	7		.825
Army		–			–			9	–	2		.818
Rhode Island		–			–			7	–	2		.778
Pennsylvania		–			–			19	–	6		.760
Bucknell		–			–			9	–	3		.750
Georgia		–			–			6	–	2		.750
Wabash		–			–			9	–	3		.750
North Dakota State		–			–			11	–	4		.733
Vanderbilt		–			–			11	–	4		.733
Navy		–			–			8	–	3		.727
Temple		–			–			8	–	3		.727
Butler		–			–			5	–	2		.714
Seton Hall		–			–			10	–	4		.714
Maine		–			–			7	–	3		.700
William & Mary		–			–			7	–	3		.700
Dartmouth		–			–			11	–	5		.688
Kansas State		–			–			6	–	3		.667
Michigan State		–			–			10	–	5		.667
Virginia		–			–			6	–	3		.667
Virginia Tech		–			–			4	–	2		.667
Georgetown		–			–			9	–	5		.643
Brigham Young		–			–			7	–	4		.636
Washington State		–			–			10	–	6		.625
Cincinnati		–			–			6	–	4		.600
St. John's (NY)		–			–			9	–	6		.600
Auburn		–			–			4	–	3		.571
Colorado		–			–			4	–	3		.571
Cornell		–			–			13	–	10		.565
Kentucky		–			–			5	–	4		.556
Colgate		–			–			7	–	6		.538
Penn State		–			–			7	–	6		.538
Fordham		–			–			13	–	12		.520
Arizona		–			–			1	–	1		.500
Lehigh		–			–			5	–	5		.500
Mississippi State		–			–			5	–	5		.500
Ohio		–			–			1	–	1		.500
Oklahoma		–			–			3	–	3		.500
Wyoming		–			–			3	–	3		.500
Yale		–			–			9	–	9		.500
Syracuse		–			–			7	–	8		.467
Bradley		–			–			6	–	7		.462
Canisius		–			–			3	–	4		.429
Idaho		–			–			7	–	10		.412
Mount Union		–			–			7	–	11		.389
Princeton		–			–			8	–	13		.381
Brown		–			–			5	–	10		.333
Holy Cross		–			–			4	–	8		.333
Oklahoma State		–			–			1	–	2		.333
Manhattan		–			–			4	–	10		.286
Tennessee		–			–			2	–	5		.286
Utah		–			–			3	–	8		.273
Indiana State		–			–			2	–	7		.222
Niagara		–			–			2	–	7		.222
Ole Miss		–			–			1	–	4		.200
Utah State		–			–			1	–	8		.111
South Carolina		–			–			0	–	3		.000
Rankings from AP Poll

Season recap

Freshman forward-center Frank Schlosser joined the team this season and played in all 14 games, immediately establishing himself as a scoring mainstay. He led the team in scoring, as he would in all four years of his career; this season he scored 128 points, averaging 9.1 points per game.[3]

Georgetown University Law School student and forward Fred Rice was in his second season with the Hoyas. He started all 14 games the Hoyas played, scoring 34 field goals and shooting 42-for-75 (56.0%) from the free-throw line for a total of 110 points and a 7.9 points per game. He finished second only to Schlosser in scoring for the year.[3]

The team's nine wins this season included victories over basketball powers Virginia, Navy, and Penn State.

Roster

Sources[4][5]

Georgetown players did not wear numbers on their jerseys this season. The first numbered jerseys in Georgetown men's basketball history would not appear until the 1933-34 season.[6]

Forward James Colliflower, a Georgetown University Law School student and three-season letterman in his second of three years playing with the team, would later serve as Georgetown's head coach during the 1911-12, 1912-13, 1913-14, and 1921-22 seasons.[1]

Name	Height	Weight (lbs.)	Position	Class	Hometown	Previous Team(s)
George Colliflower	N/A	N/A	F	Grad. Stud.	Washington, DC, U.S.	Georgetown Preparatory School (North Bethesda, MD)
James Colliflower	N/A	N/A	F	Grad. Stud.	Washington, DC, U.S.	Georgetown Preparatory School (North Bethesda, MD)
Richard Downey	N/A	N/A	C	Grad. Stud.	N/A	N/A
George Goggin	N/A	N/A	G	Jr.	N/A	N/A
George Keliher	N/A	N/A	F	Jr.	Washington, DC, U.S.	United States Army
Richard Kingsley	N/A	N/A	G	N/A	Washington, DC, U.S.	Georgetown Preparatory School (North Bethesda, MD)
Fred Rice	N/A	N/A	C	Grad. Stud.	Washington, DC, U.S.	George Washington University
Frank Schlosser	N/A	N/A	C	Fr.	Washington, DC, U.S.	United States Army
Billy Sitterding	N/A	N/A	G	Fr.	Richmond, VA, U.S.	N/A

1908–09 schedule and results

Sources[7][8][9][10]

It was common practice at this time for colleges and universities to include non-collegiate opponents in their schedules, with the games recognized as part of their official record for the season, and the games against the Washington YMCA all counted as part of Georgetown's won-loss record for 1908-09. It was not until 1952, after the completion of the 1951-52 season, that the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) ruled that colleges and universities could no longer count games played against non-collegiate opponents in their annual won-loss records.[11]

Georgetown met Navy for the first time this season, playing the Midshipmen three times and winning two of the games. It was the last success Georgetown would have against Navy until 1928; the Hoyas would lose 15 straight games to the Midshipmen in the interim.[12]

Date time, TV	Opponent	Result	Record	Site city, state
Regular Season
Thu., Dec. 17, 1908 no, no	Penn State	W 49–22	1-0	Convention Hall  Washington, DC
Sat., Dec. 19, 1908 no, no	at Navy	L 32–33	1-1	Dahlgren Hall  Annapolis, MD
Sat., Dec. 26, 1908 no, no	at Washington YMCA	L 22–37	1-2	YMCA Hall  Washington, DC
Mon., Dec. 28, 1908 no, no	Columbia	cancelled		Odd Fellows Hall  Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 2, 1909 no, no	at Navy	W 26–24	2-2	Dahlgren Hall  Annapolis, MD
Mon., Jan. 4, 1909 no, no	Vanderbilt	cancelled		Odd Fellows Hall  Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 9, 1909 no, no	Fordham	cancelled		Odd Fellows Hall  Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 9, 1909 no, no	at Washington YMCA	W 28–21	3-2	YMCA Hall  Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 16, 1909 no, no	Swarthmore	cancelled		Odd Fellows Hall  Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 23, 1909 no, no	at Navy	W 26–23	4-2	Dahlgren Hall  Annapolis, MD
Wed., Jan. 27, 1909 no, no	at Washington YMCA	L 23–33	4-3	YMCA Hall  Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 30, 1909 no, no	at Virginia	W 35–24	5-3	Fayerweather Gymnasium  Charlottesville, VA
Wed., Feb. 3, 1909 no, no	at Columbia	L 10–23	5-4	University Heights Gymnasium  New York, NY
Sat., Feb. 6, 1909 no, no	Washington and Lee	W 60–15	6-4	Odd Fellows Hall  Washington, DC
Sat., Feb. 13, 1909 no, no	at Loyola	W 62–25	7-4	5th Regiment Armory  Baltimore, MD
Mon., Feb. 22, 1909 no, no	Fordham	W 27–19	8-4	Odd Fellows Hall  Washington, DC
Fri., Feb. 26, 1909 no, no	at Cornell	L 21–22	8-5	N/A  Ithaca, NY
Sat., Feb. 27, 1909 no, no	Virginia	W 36–19	9-5	Odd Fellows Hall  Washington, DC
*Non-conference game. (#) Tournament seedings in parentheses.

References

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2. The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Home Courts
3. The Georgetown Basketball History Project: The Top 100: 56. Frank Schlosser
4. Georgetown Basketball History Project: All-Time Player Directory
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6. "The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Rosters 1930-31 to 1939-1940". Archived from the original on 2017-02-12. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
7. Georgetown Basketball History Project: 1900s Records
8. The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Records vs. All Opponents
9. sports-reference.com 1908-09 Georgetown Hoyas Schedule and Results
10. 2012-2013 Georgetown Men's Basketball Media Guide, p. 58.
11. "The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Non-Collegiate Opponents". Archived from the original on 2017-02-12. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
12. "The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Records vs. Opponents: N". Archived from the original on 2017-02-12. Retrieved 2014-01-21.