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I have a community in a freezing polar region who occasionally resort to cannibalism to survive. This only occurs when all other food reserves are exhausted due to story based logic.
Each year/few years they designate a number of people to be standby victims. This is to avoid potential conflict over killing someone in power's sickly grandmother or favourite lover etc. If these unlucky chosen individuals are lucky, they don't get eaten and they get taken off the roster and live to eat another day, others replace them in the following roster slot. If they are unlucky...they get eaten. (Extra clarification: They have no say in the matter... while they are on the roster.)
- the roster time period does not have to be a year. It could be a number of years if it makes more sense.
- the roster system is not the question.
- the security of these individuals is also not the question but can be taken into account. (Edit - clarification these victims have no say in the matter. If they need to be tied down or come willingly is story based logic)
- how victims are chosen is out of scope.
Would the community's dietary requirements during a harsh polar winter require these standby victims to be fitter or fatter?
My initial thoughts were that: in these extreme situations the community would be needing to replace their own depleted fat reserves and would therefore require/prefer their emergency supply to have higher fat content rather than lean muscly meat. Therefore I thought that these sacrificial victims could be living a life of 'luxury' for their duration on the roster (with their potential death looming over them) . During the good years, as well as building up the communities fat reserves, they would also try and add in a living fail-safe fat reserve. Build up their victim's fat reserves while the hunting season/s are good and plentiful, in case of a future bad season?
Main Edits:
(1) Thanks for the comments and answers so far. They are all valid points that I had already tried to take into account. I was trying to avoid story based and opinion based question so tried to narrow down the question to the crux of the matter. If you were the polar based cannibal, would you eat the fatter or skinnier morsel on offer.
(2) For those that need extra information...
First off: this question is not on the logic of the roster premise or who and how those on the roster are chosen. young/old/powerful/weak/childless/grandparent that is all good moral and ethical story stuff dilemmas. I am trying to figure out: of those in the roster group do you select by amount of fat or those that are fitter (as considered in modern day western culture).
Those on the roster have every reason to help ensure the community is ready for the winter, so that that they can survive uneaten. Many do survive their term on the roster. And if the system does end up having a fattening up program, they could potentially get out ahead at the end of their term. These days it's not often that they lose out on the deal. Back in the day? Totally another story.
The roster system was designed to stop infighting over who was to be killed. The settlement was hastily constructed and didn't have enough resources. As logic dictates, unplanned cannibalism took place, feasting on the perceived weak and ill. Illogically, the military elite did not want their own injured brothers and sisters killed and eaten, they would rather try save their comrades and eat the non vital civilian members of the group. Over a number of years the roster system was developed to ensure that those in power had no fear of being eaten or dying of starvation. Roster selection criteria has changed multiple times over the years and is dependent on story based logic.
Food is certainly preserved in the frozen wasteland they call home. They do plan ahead as much as possible. Occasionally they are sh%t out of luck and all their food reserves are used/ruined/stolen/spoiled/poisoned/ice-shelf fallen on top of it/ whatever you can think of. The roster system is still in place, mostly by tradition, but partly out of fear of what happens if the worst case situation happens. How the community at large and those on the roster react to finding out they are about to actually make use of the roster system is story based logic.
There is actually nothing stopping a community member from volunteering to prevent a roster member from being killed (but this happens even less frequently than the need to utilise the roster!). Those community members that die anyway during a harsh winter, will obviously get eaten before the Roster is used...they are cannibals, not complete imbeciles!
This is obviously not a stable or long term viable settlement system.
This is not Earth.
Thanks again for the further comments and answers. Lots of food for thought. I hope I covered everything.
(3) Choice of answer. It was hard, as the popular answer is the most logical that would apply in most normal situations/settlements. I already knew this but created this settlement based on the extreme end of the 'normal' reasoning spectrum. Humans are illogical. My community had a very abrupt introduction to the environment and formed traditions upheld by a very strong military force. I was already going to be choosing the 'weaker' undesirables for the roster while keeping those with specialist knowledge alive, at least at first. I have dropped the idea of a purposeful fattening up program but need the roster to stay put even if just for the initial start up of the community.
The chosen answer was selected because it did actually answer the question as stated, as well as answer the reality check part of the question. Even though you should eat the fat one for dietary purposes, logic dictates you start with the thin one anyway.
There were actually two answers that stand out as saying this. However, the selected answer had the extra bonus of mentioning the social acceptance of the need to resort to cannibalism.
Thanks again for all the input. It has all been taken on board.
I feel a DISCLAIMER is needed: I in no way endorse cannibalism as a long term solution in make-believe or real life. I withhold judgement on real life emergency situations until I am ever in such a position myself.
15I sense a logical problem in your question. If people are fat, why are they eating each other? At the point where cannibalism becomes a matter of survival, everyone is skinny. – Separatrix – 2018-03-26T11:18:12.803
2@Separatrix, Well not everyone is fat. And also during a period of lack of food you will burn off your fat supplies. So if there where individuals who were fatter to start with there would still be 'fat to spare'? – EveryBitHelps – 2018-03-26T11:20:53.960
@Raditz_35, those are good points. However I will counter with the polar environment, means that providing enough fodder etc for the extended winter could be tricky. This cannibalism is a last resort situation where all extra food resources have already been utilised. – EveryBitHelps – 2018-03-26T11:39:02.977
1@Raditz_35, this is why i stated that how they are chosen is out of scope :) . Initially this society did eat their slaves/lower class, then they created a system out if it. But as the question is "who do you pick if you were a cannibal?" The criteria and justification questions would, in my mind, be closed as opinion based and story based. I want to know if i need to fatten up my harvest or make them work to the bone. – EveryBitHelps – 2018-03-26T11:49:24.647
1I have added clarifications on the points you guys raised. I do appreciate your input in this morbid topic! Hope you aren't speaking from experience :) – EveryBitHelps – 2018-03-26T12:00:57.893
disease is going to be a huge problem – John – 2018-03-26T13:54:51.327
Why Fit or Fat ? Can we choose old and weak first ? Could it be survival of the finest? – Drag and Drop – 2018-03-26T13:56:48.230
1@DragandDrop, if you had two choices lined up. One old one weak. Do you eat the fitter or fatter of the two? It's the basic building block I'm after. If they weak/old/powerful/slave can all be discussed endlessly and would be a matter of opinion. – EveryBitHelps – 2018-03-26T14:00:22.070
The biggest question is why you’d want to waste valuable food feeding someone who is just going to end up as meat anyway. Is there something preventing you from freezing the food that you’d otherwise spend fattening up the rostered? – Joe Bloggs – 2018-03-26T14:23:28.640
1@JoeBloggs, Well frozen food is all well and good but you need able bodied ppl to do work in your community. The pile of frozen seal/penguin isn't going to build your hut for you or tan your furs or make you tea. Also. Yes! They freeze their food. But occasionally they do run out. if they didn't restock properly or nefarious damage by other tribes etc. This is for when that food stock disappears for whatever reason. Also, the rostered don't necessarily always end up as meat! If they survive their term, they can live as productive members of community. – EveryBitHelps – 2018-03-26T14:34:29.870
@EveryBitHelps Did you check how polar communities today deal with food preservation? If you are able to feed humans and you truly have that hypercold envirioment, you're able to store that food for later. The premise is flawed. – T. Sar – 2018-03-26T16:14:19.060
1@T.Sar, i am aware the food can be preserved for later in the frozen wastelands my community calls home. If you will see my first sentence, i did say this is occassional and only when the normal food reserves run out. This can and has happened in the past. Arctic communities are known to have members perceive a food shortage and in order to reduce the number of mouths to feed, walk out into the snow (i am in no way saying that these volunteers were then eaten). I'm just pointing out that food resources can run low/out, even when the food can be preserved in the cold. – EveryBitHelps – 2018-03-26T17:12:31.367
1The people on the roster are most likely going to organize for an "unfortunate and regrettable accident" to happen to someone else, whom should then become dinner... – peufeu – 2018-03-26T22:55:08.980