How to connect a headphones output to a laptop microphone input

I have been struggling to find the best way to connect a stereo headphones output (the socket where you would normally plug your headphones into) to a Lenovo G575 laptop microphone input for recording. I have tried various methods and got terrible wavy distortion even though the level was set correctly and there was no clipping. The laptop sound card does not have the option of converting the microphone input to an auxiliary input. I tried the suggestion of connecting each stereo channel to a 330 ohm resister in series with a 1 micro farad capacitor which are wired to the laptop mic input (ring and tip wired together) but am getting the wavy distortion.

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I also tried adding a 1k resistance to this after the capacitors and also tested with 22K but get the same wavy distortion even when the level is set correctly. The distortion is hard to describe. Its not clipping. Its more like getting louder and softer as if someone is waving a microphone.

I note the resistance of a typical laptop microphone is 1K. I think the solution must lie in getting the correct resistance bridge set up. Your advice would be appreciated.

Chris N

Posted 2015-09-17T21:03:28.623

Reputation: 41

Do you have a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable? Like this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-2m-3-5mm-Mini-STEREO-Jack-to-Jack-Aux-Cable-Audio-Auxiliary-Lead-PC-Car-GOLD-/261910903182?hash=item3cfb1b398e

– George – 2015-09-17T21:24:19.013

Thank you George. This is a useful cable to have. For it to work though I would need to use a resistance or capacitors to reduce the signal otherwise it will still be too high for a microphone input. – None – 2015-09-19T20:41:18.833

Answers

Speaker levels are in the ballpark of VOLTs and Microphone levels are in the order of millivolts .There are only a few exceptions to this generalisation that are unlikely on a laptop.So whatever you do with resistors lots of attenuation is needed ,why not start with an attenuation factor of 100 and use your capacitors to block DC keeping frequency response flat.If all this doesnt work well after optimising the attenuation factor you could use more caps to lowpass filter at say 16KHZ just in case the laptop speaker output is full of HF crud that you cant hear but could be mucking up the microphone input .Another possibility is ground loop ,noise issues.If you place an audio transformer in your circuit and the problem goes away then you know .proving this can be done with any junkbox audio transformer .Then you can do it properly with good transformer OR diff amp stage.

Autistic

Posted 2015-09-17T21:03:28.623

Reputation:

Thanks for the suggestions. This circuit is what I have so far: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez4djzuk234xfqy/Headphones%20Out%20To%20Laptop%20Microphone%20Circuit.jpg?dl=0 Is this correct? I am wondering if I need the two x 1micro Farad caps or should just stick with the resistance divider. I am looking for a flat frequency response. Kind Regards Chris.

– Chris N – 2015-09-21T14:42:46.480

You're most likely to get better results with a resistive voltage divider. That is, a relatively large resistor in series with the mic. input, and a lower value resistor in parallel with the mic. input. That way, you can get whatever level of voltage reduction you want, rather than by guessing the impedance if the mic. input on the laptop.

Simon B

Posted 2015-09-17T21:03:28.623

Reputation: 131

Thanks for the suggestion. I am thinking of using this circuit if I have understood the resistance divider concept correctly. Maybe the caps are not necessary. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez4djzuk234xfqy/Headphones%20Out%20To%20Laptop%20Microphone%20Circuit.jpg?dl=0 Kind Regards Chris.

– Chris N – 2015-09-21T14:45:31.573

That circuit looks quite reasonable to me. The two caps are there to block any constant DC voltage that might be present on the headphone output. The 330 ohm resistors mix the two channels to give mono (without shorting them together), and the 100K resistor and 1K potentiometer are the voltage divider. A logarithmic pot may give better control over the volume than a linear one.. – Simon B – 2015-09-21T20:52:46.983

Attempting to turn a line level signal into a mic level signal will not provide the best quality. The easiest method would be a dollar usb sound card. Plug and play line level in.

cde

Posted 2015-09-17T21:03:28.623

Reputation: 1 665

Thank you for this suggestion. I tried it and it works great. I still have to use 1 μF capacitors and a large resistance of 22K to reduce the signal before using the usb sound card but I can now record without distortion. It seems that not all laptop computer microphone inputs are the same and some laptop mic inputs are more forgiving or have a line in option. Other useful link: http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/60949/connect-speaker-output-to-microphone-input Kind Regards Chris.

– None – 2015-09-19T20:54:59.950

That's odd. You shouldn't need that – cde – 2015-09-19T21:32:22.077

Get a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable like this, cut it in half, solder in the caps and resistors and then use it. If it doesn't work it's only 99p for a cable.

George

Posted 2015-09-17T21:03:28.623

Reputation: 265