Two keyboards on one computer. When I write with A I want a US keyboard layout, when I use B I want Swedish. Possible?

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I have a laptop which I use an external keyboard with. When I type using the external keyboard I want to use a US keyboard layout, since that's the type of external keyboard I have. On the other hand, when I type using the integrated keyboard I'd like to use a Swedish layout.

Is this possible? And how would I go about doing it?

I'm asking here as I think we'll find most Linux expertise here.

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Posted 2009-11-26T20:38:55.770

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First, you have to find the device ID of the keyboard to change:

$ xinput -list | grep -i key
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                     id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ LITEON Technology USB Keyboard            id=9    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ LITEON Technology USB Keyboard            id=10   [slave  keyboard (3)]

Then change the layout using setxkbmap:

$ setxkbmap -device 9 dvorak

Some versions of setxkbmap need a '-layout' argument:

$ setxkbmap -device 9 -layout dvorak

flicken

Posted 2009-11-26T20:38:55.770

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Hi there, I did this and it works great for everything but the arrow keys and other directional keys (which no longer work at all). It could be that the keyboard is one of those ergonomic ones that have funky key mappings...any idea how to get those working again? – btelles – 2011-11-03T13:12:34.577

9So what's the best way to set this configuration at boot instead of having to manually invoke setxkbmap? – Richard Turner – 2013-06-25T10:53:26.533

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I can positively say that what you want to do is indeed possible. I achieved the specified scenario by first

sudo cat /dev/input/event(0,1,2..)

while typing on each keyboard to ensure that they were recognized as separate devices. Then I simply applied trial-and-error, experimenting with

setxkbmap -device (1-x) us.

I discovered that setxkbmap -device 1 us configured both (all) keyboards, while setxkbmap -device 6 us only affected the secondary. Of relevance is perhaps that they both were connected via PS/2.

This of course is not guaranteed to work for you, and doesn't even classify as a proper answer, but it confirms that it's at all possible. I don't know according to which scheme the individual keyboards are named in /dev/input, but I'm sure that the names can be specified in udev, making it possible to put the appropriate setxkbmap command in /etc/rc.local or similar.

Arkenklo

Posted 2009-11-26T20:38:55.770

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Although this question is a tad old, I'd thought I'd share my solution since none of the other answers addressed how to have this work on boot.

My situation: I have a Happy Hacking Keyboard that plugs in via usb that has keys moved around (control where caps lock is, etc). I use this most of the time, but sometimes I would like to use the standard laptop keyboard or another usb keyboard. For these keyboards I created a custom keyboard layout.

The trick is that the custom keyboard layout should not be applied to the Happy Hacking Keyboard.

Solution: I created a Xorg config file as such:

$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/30-keyboard.conf 
Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "Happily Hacked Keyboard"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        MatchIsKeyboard "on"
        Driver "evdev"

        Option "XkbLayout" "us"
        Option "XkbVariant" "hhk"
EndSection

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "Happy Hacking Keyboard"
        MatchIsKeyboard "on"
        MatchVendor "Topre_Corporation"
        Driver "evdev"

        Option "XkbLayout" "us"
        Option "XkbVariant" "basic"
EndSection

The first part basically says for any standard keyboard, apply the us layout with the the custom variant. The second part says for the happy hacking keyboard, use the us layout with the basic variant.

You can match devices based on a bunch of parameters: xorg doc

zanegray

Posted 2009-11-26T20:38:55.770

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your late answer maybe merits a late comment ... you have Identifier as "Happy Hacking Kbd" in both ... I think that's probably a mistake, the first InputClass Identifier should probably be "Generic Keyboard" – Daniel – 2017-04-16T17:00:25.807

1@Daniel The identifiers are actually different, "Happily Hacked Keyboard" vs "Happy Hacking Keyboard", but only slightly :) – zanegray – 2017-04-17T17:53:24.107

thanks for the correct! ... I blame my bad reading glasses :)>v – Daniel – 2017-04-21T21:49:07.913

... but this (for keyboard greatly working, also different multiple layouts to cycle through are possible!, like us,ru,ua on one and de,cz,ua on the second keyboard) change for me somehow killed my middle mouse button of my external USB mouse. Have to look for what the interference is ... – Golar Ramblar – 2019-07-26T03:48:04.573

I'd love if this solution worked for me, but it isn't working - maybe because I can't get the vendor id right? The command "lsusb -v | grep -e idVendor" gave me "0x09da A4Tech Co., Ltd." so I also tried various options (without hexcode, underscore instead of space, etc.). Then I tried the vendor id obtained via "xinput list" and "udevadm info" (A4TECH). I even changed the number 30 to 50 also because I have a file "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf" including a global keyboard configuration. But I couldn't get anywere. Any ideas please? (Ubuntu 18.04) – Sadi – 2019-07-29T11:48:56.303

On Ubuntu 19.04 the folder xorg.conf.d does not exist. It did not work for me to match the device MatchUSBID "046a:b090" Is this method still confirmed to work? – Max N – 2019-08-01T15:41:56.840

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It might be possible, judging by the -device argument to setxkbmap:

       -device device
               Specifies the numeric device id of the input device to be
               updated with the new keyboard layout. If not specified, the
               core keyboard device of the X server is updated.

Naturally, however, I do not have a second keyboard to try it at the moment.

-A Dvorak user

Tommy McGuire

Posted 2009-11-26T20:38:55.770

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Hmph. -device 0 switches both, -device 2 (should be the on-board keyboard per Arkenklo's answer) doesn't switch anything, at least on my laptop and USB keyboard. – Tommy McGuire – 2009-12-04T00:19:17.987

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I don't think you can do this exactly the way you want. There are two options that I know of:

1) You can make switching a simple mouse click / keystroke.

With Ubuntu / GNOME:

Mouse Click

In Ubuntu / Gnome, providing you have your input layouts setup, go to an empty spot on your panel, right click and click 'Add to Panel'. Select 'Keyboard Indicator' to add this to the panel. That should input a tiny little piece of text indicating your keyboard layout and you can click this to switch.

Keyboard shortcut

System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts -> Layout Options

There's an option there "Key(s) to change layout". You can set it to Alt+Shift, which shouldn't disturb any normal keyboard shortcuts.

I presume there is a KDE way of doing that also.

2) The other alternative is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xneur, but I am not sure if this is available for Swedish and it may not be possible for languages which have similar constructs to English.

Phil

Posted 2009-11-26T20:38:55.770

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