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I am running out of SATA power connector from my PS unit.
I have ordered One SATA to 2 SATA extender connector from ebay
I want to know that how many max i can join them in series. Can i make 4 connectors out of one cable
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I am running out of SATA power connector from my PS unit.
I have ordered One SATA to 2 SATA extender connector from ebay
I want to know that how many max i can join them in series. Can i make 4 connectors out of one cable
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Power distribution in any situation is like a length of chain or team sport. It is only as strong as its weakest component. For most power systems, there are 2 main elements: connectors and cable.
Each element has certain voltage and current ratings. These ratings are usually dependent on temperature. They also only apply to the brand of components you have.
So for this example, we'll use a Molex brand Molex to Sata cable. Why? Because Molex acutally bother to take the time to specify the parts that make up their assemblies. The spec for this cable is available here. We're only interested in the cable and the sata connector though.
If you look at that spec, you notice that the connector is rated to 1.5 A DC and the wire they use is 18 AWG (I'm a mm² man myself but let's roll with it). If you look up recommended wire gauge to current rating (such as here) you'll note that 18 AWG is rated to 16 A for short runs. So our connector is the weak point, more specifically the point were two connectors meet.
Now let's look at HDDs (as per your comment). Say you have a Seagate Barracuda 1 TB, when you look at its specs, it draws about 6 W under operating conditions. We'll say this is 0.5 A @ 12 V (though it is probably a combination of the rails) to simplify. This isn't the worst case though, this drive draws 2 A on start up but the connectors can handle it for a short time.
So you have 3 of these drives and you want to split them off the same SATA power point. The current will be additive so the current draw when operating will be...
0.5 x 3 = 1.5 A
However, this is when all drives are reading and writing which is unusual unless you have a RAID-1 type setup on all 3 drives.
So theoretically, yes, you could connect 3 hard drive off a single power point. More would exceed the designed limits of the connector that would connect to the PSU.
On a side note, while the start up current should be considered as a part of design (up to 6 A in this example with all 3 drives), it should also be noted that the Molex connectors have tested at higher current (7 A, see this connector spec). But if you exceed the design max and melt something, then that will be your problem and yours alone.
The answer is very well written though there is a little mistake... the 1.5A limit is "per contact" as there are 3 contacts per rail, that would allow 4.5A on the 12V rail, that means 54W or 9 HDD (@6W each) – Memes – 2018-12-06T04:41:40.470
thanks for that. so for worst case scenario what will be damaged , Powersupply , wire , connector or Hard drive?. i want to know the max damagae. because if wire or connector is damagaed then it won't bother me much but if my PS or hard drive is going to be at risk then i wont take it – user1721949 – 2014-05-13T06:50:19.860
Depends on how it fails. It could fail in a way that nothing happens except you lose power to the drives. It could also fail in a way that takes out your PSU and / or drives. It's a roll of the dice with failures. Though if you're not constantly reading and writing, you won't draw that sort of power and it should be fine. – SLaG – 2014-05-13T06:53:48.640
Thanks for that. One thing more. you are talking about connector which has only single connector. IN my power supply i have two wires comming from PS and each has 3 SATA connectors already on it.I was thinking to extend those. Can i extend those because they already has 3 in it or i can't because they already come from single wire from PS. Like this http://ksstudios.com/wp-content/gallery/cp06/dsc_0009.jpg
– user1721949 – 2014-05-13T06:59:51.300That should be ok. As I mentioned, the connector is the weak point but in the PSU, the cable is soldered to the board which has a greater current carrying capacity than connectors. It's the points where two connectors meet that causes issues because it's just bits of metal being pressed together. – SLaG – 2014-05-13T09:18:02.727
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As it was mentioned already, the wire itself (18 awg) has a current limit of MUCH more than the connector (~16A vs 1.5A).
FYI, Current refers to Amperage NOT Voltage. Every PSU (and extension) I have ever worked with uses UL1007/3057 Series "hookup" wire which is a stranded, tinned-copper wire rated at 300V... WELL above the 3.3, 5, or 12V supplied by a Computer PSU!
So, in your case if you have one "cable" or set of wires with 3 SATA Connectors already. You could easily use (3x) 3-way Y-Adapters for a total of 9 drives using the example above of 0.5A/drive!
Another option (and the better alternative IMO) would be to add a punch down style connector in-line with your existing cable! I make custom sleeved extensions and modded PC's for a living and this is, by far, the better option for most people (unless you feel comfortable soldering and understand the way a PSU and electronics work)!
It is a connector like this one: http://www.candccentral.co.uk/images/D/8700_0.jpg
On some of our higher-end builds / mods we have connected as many as 15 drives on a single cable using similar connector types...
Please keep in mind however that we ALWAYS use at least 16 AWG Wire capable of higher current, no matter which PSU we are modding. We also use solder type connectors rather than the punch down style which has less resistance (and thus, less heat and better power transfer).
Each of our mods are custom tailored to the PSU being used, the HDD/SSD/ODD being used, and the system itself.
Either way though, you should have plenty of "overhead" using these type of connectors to use 5-10 drives on one 18 AWG cable, possibly more but I'd need more specifics to say for sure.
Just make sure your PSU has either a Single 12V Rail, or that your 12V Load is evenly distributed over a Multi-Rail Design.
Hope this helps and good luck to you or anyone else attempting a PSU Mod!
Jon President, Mod-U Custom Cables and PC Mods
1You can Y them all you want, but if your power supply can't support all the devices you plug in, it won't do you a lick of good. – MaQleod – 2014-05-13T04:08:09.507
@MaQleod My PS is 700W and i have checked with watt meter its only using 300W. IS that ok – user1721949 – 2014-05-13T04:10:43.520
Should be, most drives won't use more than about 25 watts during peak. You should be able to add 4 drives to what you already have. – MaQleod – 2014-05-13T04:15:07.647
@MaQleod Not entirely true. Depends on what is being supplied by all the points. As the cable and connector with suffer I2R losses and this will be worst at the common point. If the cable is cheap, it won't handle the current it has to deliver. – SLaG – 2014-05-13T04:16:03.177
1@SLaG, true, quality and gauge of wire is a factor. The 3.3v are much more sensitive to voltage drops than the 5v, and the 12v are much better suited for that sort of thing. It would be best to divide the load amongst the rails just to ensure you don't drop too much voltage. – MaQleod – 2014-05-13T04:33:18.167
@André But isn't that the OPs question? What the max number is? If you had 3 cables dasiy chained, ie 1 to 4 points. You could pull 8 A on startup from 4 HDDs... You'd be close to connector limits and cheap cable insulation would melt. – SLaG – 2014-05-13T04:42:30.087
@SLaG yeah, but since I wasn't sure I prefered to just leave a comment and let more experienced users answer it. Now that I think of it, my numbers were pretty high actually (10 cables 1->2 connectors = 10 HDDs = 10A at startup, enough to melt a cheap cable). – None – 2014-05-13T04:46:38.317
@André, yeah. Saying all that though, if it's running SSDs, its less of a problem or it might be a card reader or a optical disk drive that never runs. It really depends on the use case. It's just a consideration. – SLaG – 2014-05-13T04:51:56.950
@SLaG i have cheap cables , will three HDD be fine for that – user1721949 – 2014-05-13T05:47:58.033