What to consider when putting a webcam outside?

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For one of my websites, I need to install an outdoor webcam (located at a ski resort) to broadcast live images to the website.

So my question is simple: what are the webcam characteristics required for this usage ? And then, how to install it and make it stream to my HTML pages ?

fabien7474

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Attempted to fix the title and some grammar, the first title was a buying recommendation (against the FAQ). Not really sure where to take it, hopefully that's better.

– nerdwaller – 2013-03-11T22:47:56.880

1Can you elaborate on what you intend to do? Do you intend to get an IP camera hooked to a central server or a standalone installation that processes everything, and sends it on, etc.? – nerdwaller – 2013-03-11T22:50:12.917

@nerdwaller Thx for your fix. For your question, IP camera hooked to a an ISP router seems to be a good choice. Also, I need one of the cheapest solutions. – fabien7474 – 2013-03-13T22:11:18.487

1Local privacy legislation. – Matthias – 2013-03-14T07:51:47.223

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Great question!!

Now one thing that I would like to draw a distinction to. The term Webcam has often been referred to cameras that you connect to your PC via USB etc. IP camera is traditionally the term that is used for cameras that have more "smarts" and connect to the internet directly. But, I think this distinction has become blurred now. So when buying a camera, make sure it is one that you connect directly to an Ethernet network.

Some years ago I had to do this very thing and it had to withstand very harsh conditions (-40F) with strong winds and no power. And I learned a few things. Three were on an island in the middle of nowhere near Russia. Another was off an oil rig!


Note: although I link to some websites that sell/produce products. I'm not actually recommending them. I'm just using them as examples. Do your own homework and find products that suit your need and budget.


Here is my list which should hopefully give you enough to think about.

1) Weatherproofing.

For weatherproofing you can buy off the shelf universal housing. Some cameras are advertised as outdoor already - but check the operating temp range!

This type of thing is what you should be looking at. Although you can use any brand, Pelco are what I'm personally familiar with.

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2) Heating (during winter)

As many webcams don't work too well below freezing you may need some sort of heating. Some weatherproof housings provide heating options. i.e. little heat pads that prevent the camera from getting too cold and causing it to malfunction or shut down.

e.g. HBPRO-601HB Outdoor CCTV Camera Housing, Built in Heater/Blower, 24VAC

Not that I'm recommending this particular case. But it gives you an example of one with the heating and cooling accessories. Again do your homework.

3) Overheating (during summer)

Unfortunately, the sun can cause cameras and camera housings to get very hot. Especially when they are made of metal. Again the housings can provide a heat shield that stands off from the main housing to stop the sun heating up the box too much (as they are often made of metal).

4) Connecting it up & powering it.

How will you get power to it? how will you get data to/from it?

Running cable is always best but you can do wireless (point to point) or cable. Either way you'll need some way of powering it. I would suggest if you can run some cable with POE for power that would be the best option. Otherwise you could even go solar or wind turbine with a wifi point to point link if this thing is remote. Again, it depends where you are going to be putting it.

5) Vandal proofing

Something often forgotten about. If it's up high enough it should be ok. Sometimes it's not an option to mount it that high up and so you may need a vandal resistant housing.

Vandal proof enclosure

6) Mounting

The universal mounts also require some sort of mount.
e.g. A pole mount. Pole mount

Or perhaps a wall mount option will serve you better. Wall mount

7) The camera itself

Do your homework and buy a good one, you won't ever regret that decision. There are many cheap cameras (which are OK for home use) and some very expensive ones (which are just better all around). Since you want to post it to your website (not realtime) then one that has a higher resolution would be fine. A fixed focal length camera with a wide angle lens may be what you're after if you want to just get a broad picture.

I've used AXIS cameras before and they were reasonable. However, look at other brands too. Those from Panasonic and IQeye look tempting. If you want a good quality picture go for one designed for the security market rather than the home market. But again, the price starts increasing. It just depends on what your budget is. You may find an all in one camera that takes care of all this for you and meets your requirements.

8) Need night vision?

Do you need to see what's going on at night? then a night vision camera may be necessary. And if you have a night vision camera then you'll need an IR illuminator to see what's going on.

Infra-red illuminators look something like the following:

IR Illuminator

You can also get cameras with these built in. Although they are not as powerful as the ones shown here.

9) What about privacy regions?

Some cameras let you set them up so that they will cover particularly sensitive areas with like a grey box. You probably won't need that but I'm just putting it in here for completeness in case someone else has that very need. The cheap cameras probably won't do that. It's generally a function of cameras designed for the security market.

10) Explosion proof?

Just for completeness sake, lets say you've got it in a place where there are volatiles. Well, you can get cases that are explosion proof! Need I say more?

Matt H

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Thank you very much for your answer. Technically, is it difficult to retrieve webcam images and integrate it into my website ? – fabien7474 – 2013-03-13T22:07:55.887

1Not at all. Many IP cameras provide an upload option (e.g. FTP upload). So every few minutes you can configure it to send an image to your website. Alternatively you could configure the website to pull an image. I think push image rather than pull image is more easily setup than pull. – Matt H – 2013-03-13T23:34:47.973

Great response. +1 @fabien7474, it should be pretty easy. Looks like MattH has a good start for you. Best of luck. – nerdwaller – 2013-03-14T06:51:53.923

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Thank you for interesting points made.

The only thing I'd like to add: I have had webcams broadcasting from aboard a boat for over ten years, lots of fun and interesting challenges.

I home build weatherproof cases ventilated, with no heat and have broadcast from very hot temperatures in the Caribbean to subzero temps in Ontario Canada. The trick I found, my cams work without heat because they are never shut down. Even if the server is down, and I am usually working via cellular providers, the USB connection from the computer is still running the cameras on Vision GS software. I have hit below -20 Celsius and still uploading stills.

I am now starting to mess around with live streaming....

Thanks for some good ideas,
Joe
www.cruisingdog.com

user275964

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I develop one simple solution with a mobile phone as webcam. The picture is upload on regular basis to my website by FTP connection.

To avoid any weather problem, all is put inside a weather proof enclosure, including the solar panel for battery recharge. To keep a small solar panel, there is a special control board to manage the mobile phone and save energy except for picture upload.

You can find some detail here: http://www.solarcamlab.com

And a demo page, where some colleagues and friends use this solution: http://demo.solarcamlab.com

As there is no hole, all is fully weather proof. The only potential problem is the heat in summer for the battery, not for the mobile as it is most of the time power off. So far, there are some of my solarcam working for months, even 1 year in cold place (French Alpes) and hot place (south China) without any issue.

Laurent

Laurent

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