Proving file creation dates

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Is it possible to fake or manipulate creation dates ? And if so, how can I "prove" that the files really are that old ?

Luckily, I stored my project on GitHub, whick confirmed the fact that the files are from that era, but that is besides the point.

I run purely Apple OS X.

Nils Munch

Posted 2012-05-30T21:59:13.880

Reputation: 143

Question was closed 2012-06-08T02:00:31.577

Related: Setting file creation date in Mac OS X

– Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007 – 2012-05-30T22:10:24.053

Answers

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If you have access to the disk then you can change the information on that disk. This including the information with the creation dates. So yes, you can fake it.

The only way to prove you had them first is if someone else can confirm that. GitHub might do. The file dates on your local disk which are fully under your control will not do.

Hennes

Posted 2012-05-30T21:59:13.880

Reputation: 60 739

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Well... IANAL, but date/time stamps on files created on a specific machine get that information from the CMOS clock, which you can set to whatever time and date you want. So, you really can't say that the files with those dates that are on your computer prove anything. However, the files that are stored by someone else, if they have been stored by someone else for as long as you say, prove that they did indeed exist before you worked for this company.

So the project stored on GitHub which confirms the fact that the files are from that era isn't beside the point, it is going to "be" the point... or the lynchpin in this case. Whether or not a court accepts the validity of their information is going to decide on whether you created this software before you worked for this company.

The point might be moot, however. If you worked on the software on company time, you might still be contractually obligated to turn it over to them. It all depends on if anything you signed before you worked there says that anything you DEVELOP while working for the company is theirs... since DEVELOP doesn't necessarily mean create. It could be interpreted as improving, or working on.

Bon Gart

Posted 2012-05-30T21:59:13.880

Reputation: 12 574

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It is possible to do usingtouch -t yyyymmddhhmm filename. A bit of googling even yields some tutorials and free apple scripts to do so. As you say, you're lucky you have github as evidence. That is the only way I can think of for you to prove when you created the files.

Yitzchak

Posted 2012-05-30T21:59:13.880

Reputation: 4 084

Creation time. – Daniel Beck – 2012-05-31T19:47:34.713