How long does CMOS battery (3V) on a motherboard last?

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Just wondering usually how long does CMOS battery last on a regular motherboard?

I read that motherboard leakage current of about 3 - 6 micro ampere. I did a calculation below but I believe that i may have missed something. What is the minimal voltage required for a motherboard's date/time function to work correctly?

Life of battery (down to 0V):

Normal Case (leakage current = 4 µA).
Battery capacity = 225 mAH / 4 µA
= (225 x 10^(-3)) / (4 x 10^(-6)) hr = 56250 hrs

One year has 24 x 365 hrs = 8760 hrs

Total battery life (from 3V -> 0V)
= 56250 hrs / 8760 hr per year = 6.42 years

Kevin H

Posted 2012-03-02T02:40:51.907

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@OP: To be considered also is the low voltage threshold defined by the Motherboard manufacturer. Its not necessary that the battery be completely dead (i.e at 0V) before it starts acting dead. – Bhargav Bhat – 2012-03-02T03:44:15.937

@Moab: The battery doesn't seem to be a rechargeable type, wikipedia lists it as a common button cell that is used in calculators and watches etc.

– Bhargav Bhat – 2012-03-02T03:46:27.087

@Moab: Li-ion technology allows for rechargeable batteries, but the CR2032 is not a rechargeable battery. – Bhargav Bhat – 2012-03-02T04:15:07.097

@Moab: I should have been more clear in my previous post. The CR2032 is not a lithium-ion battery. It's simply called a lithium battery because it uses lithium metal or lithium compounds in the anode. See this wikipedia page for details.

– Bhargav Bhat – 2012-03-02T05:22:23.703

Answers

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Unfortunately, the number of variables involved is large:

  • the standby current of the motherboard
  • the actual capacity of the battery (every battery is a little different, and differences between manufacturers can significantly change run time)
  • how long is the PC is on vs. off every day (when it's on, the battery isn't doing anything, so the more it's on, the less the battery is being used)
  • variations in storage conditions before the machine was bought may also affect the battery lifetime

In short, there's no good, right answer for all situations. I've generally gotten at least 3-4 years out of batteries (in other words, I replace the motherboard or whole PC before the battery goes).

Michael Kohne

Posted 2012-03-02T02:40:51.907

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1There are additional variables: How fresh the battery was when it went in, how much time it spends in a hot environment inside the machine (how long it runs per day), etc. Also, it isn't linear, so you can't go strictly by current x time. There are also internal chemical processes. If you draw zero current, the battery degrades over time. There is no answer, except don't expect it to last much beyond 5 yrs under the best conditions. Start checking it after 3. – fixer1234 – 2014-10-13T20:26:24.720

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I've personally fired up computers 10+ years with no use and still had cmos information stored by battery. I wouldn't count on that as the norm but I have seen it

Elijah Gardner

Posted 2012-03-02T02:40:51.907

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My experience shows that the CMOS battery lasts about 5-7 years before it needs to be replaced.

When the CMOS battery in my father's Dell failed, it read about 1.5 volts on my multimeter, well below the 3-volt nominal voltage, but not quite zero volts. A battery generally has virtually no energy remaining this far below the nominal voltage, so you shouldn't expect the battery to be usable all the way to zero volts.

bwDraco

Posted 2012-03-02T02:40:51.907

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Short circuit the 1.5V battery and it'll still explode. A battery never runs out of energy as long as the voltage between two polars is not zero. – iBug – 2017-03-13T12:32:18.257

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When I managed a medium-size population of workers, I instituted a cyclical replacement program. Each fiscal year I would replace 25% with brand-new systems. The entire population would be upgraded in 4 years. Never once did I encounter an internal battery problem. We simply replaced the PCs in a timely manner. The oldest PCs got repurposed or sold off to sister agencies. All the PCs were from Dell.

To answer your question: It certainly is more than 4 years.

SDsolar

Posted 2012-03-02T02:40:51.907

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As @Michael Kohne stated, there are many variables affecting the life of CMOS battery, so it is not easy to predict. In addition to his answer, I want to add:

The battery's output voltage need not to fall to zero before it becomes useless. When the voltage produced by the battery is less than the minimum required supply voltage for the chip, it already becomes useless.

Adhamzhon Shukurov

Posted 2012-03-02T02:40:51.907

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The first paragraph repeats Michael Kohne's answer. The second part was already covered by bwDraco's answer. – fixer1234 – 2019-07-25T23:10:33.963

@fixer1234 He explains his experience, but gives different reason – Adhamzhon Shukurov – 2019-07-26T04:59:59.077

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Unfortunately I'm on my phone I probably shouldn't chime in... Your math is not entirely accurate and what I mean by that is the milli-amp/hr is not I have X amps - Y hrs = 0 volts if you can fallow along I'm not trying to make this a history lesson but amp/hrs is 'HOW MUCH' current a battery is rated to put out, so you have to calculate how MUCH current is being used/drawn from the battery it should be considerably less.

To keep this short and rap it up you don't just take the 'CAR'S' horse power and multiply by how many days you drive a year by how many years; you calculate an average daily usage of HP and use that to calculate your HP for the year, that way your engine should last a whole lot longer than FULL THROTTLE!

Iceking007

Posted 2012-03-02T02:40:51.907

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Unfortunately I'm on my phone I probably shouldn't chime in. Right - your answer is very hard to understand. – Jan Doggen – 2015-08-13T13:08:50.983

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I have read more than one time that you should get on average about 5 yrs. out of a 2032 or any typical lithium watch battery. But then I am sure that would have to do with the efficiency of the circuit drawing the power from it and could fluctuate 10-20% either way. then you would have to factor in how many months (12-24 or more) that it sat in the store before purchased for use.

Rich Manson

Posted 2012-03-02T02:40:51.907

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