What colour is the dark green on 'old fashioned' green screen computer displays/VDUs?

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I'd like to make my text editors display like the old skool white-on-green VDUs of yore that I can just about remember from my childhood. I have this idea they might be easier on my old eyes.

I was wondering if there was standard dark green used on these and, if so, what the RGB or Hex values for it might be?

5arx

Posted 2011-11-25T09:56:53.587

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DaveBoltman's answer is very remarkable and useful. However, the phosphors' wavelengths in Wikipedia are not exact. There are other references and Google books giving slightly different values. For instance, P1 w/l is 525, not 528 nm: http://www.labguysworld.com/crt_phosphor_research.pdf

Anyway, I remember what colors those phosphors displayed (including the amber phosphors), so I am nearly sure of these RGB and Hex values:

enter image description here

I suppose that Apple //c and Apple /// monitors used the P24 GE phosphor, because they had its hue. And the background of the old monochrome CRTs usually was lighter than pure black, see this photo:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/IBM_PC_5150.jpg

For better eye comfort, I suggest that the OP use any of those greens with that background. In the dark, the old-fashioned green on dark gray looks better than the present black on white.

Giorgio Brandi

Posted 2011-11-25T09:56:53.587

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It's funny after all this time, eyes feel better with basic combination of ambar or green on black. Just created iTerm2 profile based on your answer. Good stuff, thank you – mau – 2019-09-16T23:52:58.897

I'm unclear what you mean by hex color #XXXXXX = YYY nm, as that certainly doesn't make sense as an equation. The real-life color produced by some RGB color will depend highly on the display. Which was the original and how did you derive the other from it? – Apollys supports Monica – 2019-12-02T22:26:59.473

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Inspired by the above (incomplete) answers:

  1. Almost all the "'old fashioned' green screen computer displays/VDUs" used the P1 phosphor (see wikipedia reference)

  2. The P1 phosphor produces a peak wavelength (a.k.a. colour in human terms) of 528 nm (reference)

  3. Converting colour from a wavelength to RGB values (in the commonly used byte format of 0 to 255) using formulae here, gives: Red=65 Green=255 Blue=0, or #41FF00 in hexadecimal. (see this convertor).

  4. This does not take brightness into account. (to adjust the brightness the RBG value would need to be converted to HSV, have the V component adjusted up or down, then converted back to RGB to satisfy the OP).

Reversed Engineer

Posted 2011-11-25T09:56:53.587

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From Wikipedia you can find a wavelength of this phosphor and RGB conversion formulas can be found easily from internet.

Cougar

Posted 2011-11-25T09:56:53.587

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1Wow! Now that's what I call a geeky answer. Many, many thanks for this amazing idea! – 5arx – 2011-11-25T19:30:17.380

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  • There wasn't a standard color.
  • Brightness is part of color and was usually changeable by turning a knob.
  • Colors change as the phosphor ages.
  • You could order VDUs with amber and other color phosphors.
  • Some makers claimed amber was better for eyes.
  • The ones I used were mostly green on black (not white on green)
  • RGB values probably depend on calibration of your display.

RedGrittyBrick

Posted 2011-11-25T09:56:53.587

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I've tried both amber and green. In hindsight I liked the amber best. – Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen – 2019-11-26T06:23:11.613

"Some makers claimed amber was better for eyes." - Medically-prescribed 'VDU' glasses were/are amber-tinted (a relative worked in a medical eye centre) – Linker3000 – 2011-11-25T12:52:03.023

3in short. do what a lot of nostalgic geeks do, and adjust it till it looks right – Journeyman Geek – 2011-11-25T13:22:05.900

1Unfortunately I don't really remember what it looked like. I was <10yrs old at the time :-| – 5arx – 2011-12-03T23:43:11.433

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Try RGB color code:

R:36
G:204
B:68

For a result like this:

enter image description here

Ing

Posted 2011-11-25T09:56:53.587

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13Why do you think this is the right color? Other answers provide some insight and reasoning. How can we tell it's not just your opinion or a wild guess? – Kamil Maciorowski – 2018-02-20T21:31:57.913