How much will it cost me to run a Windows Home Server?

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Anybody has any measurements of how much electricity does a Windows Home Server (say one of the HP models) use while being on 24/7?

I have an old PC running at home to store files that everyone can access from their laptops, but it is using too much power. I'm wondering if it would be worth to buy a WHS to replace it.

Kwh consumption per day or month is what i'm looking for, as rates vary from place to place.

Edit: Here are my conclusions, feel free to let me know if I'm not right.

Based on Stephen measurements (which validate Joel's estimates), I've come to this conclusions:

An HP WHS with a 2Ghz Celeron (rated for 65W TDP) with only 2 HDD and 1 GB of ram could be well under 2 Kwh a day (The 2.4Ghz Quad Cored max TDP is 105W and was measured at 2.5 kwh per day with 4 HDD and 8GB Ram).

That's a saving of almost 3kwh per day against the old box that averaged 4.6 kwh per day (over 1000 kwh per year). @25 cents/kwh we pay here, that's about $275 a year savings in energy, meaning ROI is less than two years at current (likely to go up) electricity rates.

Now, there is also a new HP WHS with a 1.6 GHz Atom processor. I'll have to check its performance since that would mean even greater savings.

Edit 2: The Atom powered WHS (I researched one from HP and one from Acer) claim that load power usage is 26 watts and that they can go to sleep @ 3W and turn back on upon accessed automatically. @ 26w that means 0.6 kwh per day (meaning even faster at less than 1 year ROI).

Edit 3 (Jul 28): Got my hands on a Fluke meter with data logging capabilities and a clamp and took some samples over time of the power usage of my current PC. The average was 3.45 Kwh per day.

jvanderh

Posted 2009-07-15T18:28:00.213

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If your storage requirements are low, build it in a laptop. (My first WHS was a used Dell D600). Low power, compact, built-in keyboard, mouse, monitor, wifi, and UPS. – Jay Bazuzi – 2011-08-13T07:39:38.363

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I recently upgraded a server I had running at home, it was a Windows 2k3 install which I believe is what is under the covers of Home Server.

Originally it was a 1.4GHz single Athlon with 1 Gb ram and 5 HDDs - headless system.

Power Consumption: 192W (4.6 Kwh a day)

Replaced with a 2.4Ghz Quad core Intel, 8 Gb ram and 4 HDDs again headless.

Power Consumption: 106W (2.5 Kwh a day).

I was very impressed at the power saving for a better machine! And as I run Hyper-V on it I was able to run the old server image, my build machine, a Home Server virtual machine and others all on the one box so it was well worth the upgrade.

I believe the dedicated home servers are designed to be low power but if you add lots of external HDDs with their own power supplied add about 15w (0.36 Kwh a day) for each one.

All the values were measured with a cheap plug in module so probably not especially accurate.

Stephen Harrison

Posted 2009-07-15T18:28:00.213

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This is what I was looking for, from someone with a pre-built WHS. I could be right in thinking that an HP WHS with a 2Ghz Celeron (rated for 65W TDP) and only 2 HDD would be well under 2Kwh a day. (The 2.4Ghz Quad Cored max TDP is 105W). That's a saving of almost 3kwh per day (over 1000 kwh per year). @25 cents/kwh we pay here, that's about $275 a year savings, meaning ROI is less than two years at current (likely to go up) electricity rates. – jvanderh – 2009-07-15T23:47:12.410

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You may be interested in a Kill-A-Watt device; it allows you to directly measure the electricity usage of any device.

Paul Sonier

Posted 2009-07-15T18:28:00.213

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2I have one, I just don't have the WHS to measure and want the info before I make a decision to purchase. – jvanderh – 2009-07-15T18:33:35.003

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An old rule of thumb I used to use was $200 per year per PC. However, this was several years back. Things have changed significantly since then, both in terms of $ per watt (higher now) and watts per PC (higher, I think, than in 1999, but actually down I think in the last couple years).

Taking that as a starting point though, if you figure a PC lasts for 5 years that's $1000, or double the cost of a basic computer. If you can halve the power use of the PC you'll shave $500 off the TCO, or roughly $9/mo. But again, things have changed.

I know another big difference is that my old estimates included display power costs. Early LCDs used significantly less power than CRTs, to the point where they'd pay for themselves fairly quickly in many business scenarios where the display was on 8hrs or more per day (this is how LCDs achieved the economy of scale to get so cheap so quickly... businesses that were also watching power consumption would purchase them early, even at higher initial price points). Recent LCD displays are brighter and use more power again (update: the switch to LED negates this). However, the machine the OP asked about will likely be headless, and that will throw my estimate off even further.

As a final note, the reason the $200 per year number has stuck so long in my head is that it stayed true for a very long time. Given there are a number of factors affecting it in both directions, such as increased energy costs, increased overall requirements, followed by improved efficiency and removing the need to power a display, the number may not be all that far off after all. It's likely determined as much by the economics of what people are will to pay and can afford as it is by technical matters, and if that's true, the estimate will hold for some time to come.

Joel Coehoorn

Posted 2009-07-15T18:28:00.213

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That's what I'm looking for, the updated rule of thumb. I've read that the pre-built WHS are low power consumers, but haven't been able to find any info on how low. I know my 6 year old P4 machine with 4 hard drives is wasting power to just sit there. – jvanderh – 2009-07-15T18:35:50.100

Wow, nice estimates. At the current average Kwh price in WI (12 cents), $200 is about 1600 kwh per year. Divide that by 365 days that's 4.6 kwh per day. Exactly what Stephen measured. – jvanderh – 2009-07-15T23:33:46.467

You get +1, stephen gets accepted answer. Thanks both, together you provided what I needed. I'll come back in a few months and post the results of my measurements when I buy the WHS. – jvanderh – 2009-07-16T00:03:20.030

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Notice, though, that there are three things consuming electricity:

  1. The monitor -- a good monitor with Windows correctly configured will spend just a few watts per hour. Measure it, though, even if it is "turned off".

  2. The computer's power supply. All electricity consumed inside the computer goes through it, and the performance of the power suppy is very important. A little bit more money to get a more efficient power supply is justified for servers nowadays.

  3. The no-break inherent power loss. Everything that transforms electricity consumes some of it, unless you are talking super-conductors. If it produces heat, then it's consuming electricity.

I recommend you measure each of these things separately (of course, the no-break measure will give the total for it and the computer), and consider alternatives available in the market with better energy efficiency.

I'm a Windows user, I'm a PROUD user of Windows Vista 64, and think anyone staying with XP or 32 is a sissie. I'm not calling anyone names (those XP and 32 bits-users aside), I'm not even denigrating Microsoft or its products -- and God knows that, as a user, I'm entitled and have reason for that at times.

And, finally, this is an answer, and not even a particularly good one information-wise, though I certainly answered to question to the extent of my knowledge. So if you don't like the humour in it, go ahead and vote it down. But, as there is a bitter truth to my remark on the destiny of souls, I'd very much appreciate it being left there.

Daniel C. Sobral

Posted 2009-07-15T18:28:00.213

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2No need for the "soul to Microsoft" comment. Thanks for the rest of the answer. WHS are headless devices, there won't even be a monitor. I agree that more efficient power supply is the key here. My question is really "how efficient are the power supplies of pre-built home servers".
The thing here is, that I can't measure without actually buy the WHS first, hence the question here. Care to mention "other alternatives available in the market with better energy efficiency"?
– jvanderh – 2009-07-15T18:42:43.267

Well, I think it funny, and a community which can laugh at itself is one I have to interest in taking a part of. As for better energy efficiency, I mean different PSU and no-breaks have different power efficiencies, and a little bit of research can go a long way. – Daniel C. Sobral – 2009-07-16T11:59:35.520

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Give Edison a shot. I never actually figured out what it does for you, but it does tell you the energy consumption of your computer, how much it costs, etc...

Peter Turner

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Any specific reasons for windows home server?. Linux is a good choice for home server if you have little experience with pc's as you may have to do some customization. You can build a custom pc with 45w processors.

kishore

Posted 2009-07-15T18:28:00.213

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Yes, its not for me, it is for my parents home. It has the features they (and I need) out of the box for $400. I'll spend 10 minutes setting it up when they buy it and it will pay for itself against what they have now in less than a year. The Atom powered one claims 26w power usage and 3w sleep. That's less than 1kwh per day. – jvanderh – 2009-07-16T01:08:00.770

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If you have a budget around $500+ then you could build a Windows Home Server with this and it only consumes around 80W (http://www.mini-box.com/PicoPSU-120-WI-25-12-25V-DC-DC-ATX-power-supply ).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136064

http://www.mini-box.com/site/mb/Power_MB.htm

djangofan

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