How do I watch or stream movies over WiFi without constant stuttering?

I've got a bunch of movies on my desktop. Each one is around 700MB long, so for an average movie this is around 128 kb/s.

My WiFi is capable of transferring the movies at an average speed of 1 MB/s, sometimes 1.5 MB/s. However, if I try to watch a movie directly from the mapped network drive, it stutters all the time.

Watching a traffic monitor I can see that both Windows Media Player and Zoom Player do something that is entirely incompatible with WiFi - they load a bunch of bytes, buffering up to about 10 seconds' worth, and then show the 10 seconds of video. Only when the buffer has nearly run out do they try to read the next chunk. So they leave themselves 1 second to read the next 10 seconds' worth. WiFi isn't fast enough to let them do that.

Any ideas on how to fix this? Perhaps a video player that's a bit smarter than this? Or a network drive mapper that proactively buffers a specified amount of data any time a program performs a read?

RomanSt

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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Try decreasing the buffer size to 1 sec? – Vincent Van Den Berghe – 2009-08-20T10:22:08.593

Tried that. I couldn't find a relevant setting anywhere, and ffmpeg has a couple of hundred of them... Couldn't find one in WMP or ZoomPlayer either. – RomanSt – 2009-08-20T12:07:19.240

Answers

You could try using VLC to do streaming, that might cope better

Col

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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1Just to clarify I'm suggesting using VLC as a streaming server on the desktop as well as the client on the desktop if you don't get sufficient improvement using it just as the client. – Col – 2009-08-20T10:28:42.743

Oh! I didn't know this was possible. Will definitely give it a shot. Thanks. – RomanSt – 2009-08-20T12:06:12.377

Here's a shortcut to the pdf instructions on the videolan site http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/streaming-howto-en.pdf

– Col – 2009-08-20T12:22:08.013

The main problem with this is that VLC is often too weak to play the actual movies, much less handle them while streaming. What can an MPlayer fan do? – Joe Phillips – 2009-08-21T04:49:01.390

Can I stream with VLC and then watch it with MPlayer? – Joe Phillips – 2009-08-21T04:51:35.347

Sorry, I mean MPC, not MPlayer – Joe Phillips – 2009-08-21T04:52:06.003

I can't say I've come across a movie that vlc wouldn't play so I've never tried playing streamed media through MPC. – Col – 2009-08-21T07:28:57.417

For the record, while I initially thought VLC helped, in actual fact movies watched off mapped drives still stutter. As for streaming... firstly, it has never worked, and secondly, am I supposed to control it via the remote PC?... No deal; I want to choose what I watch after I’m lying on the sofa, not before :) – RomanSt – 2012-04-21T12:36:47.913

Trying to set up streaming now, and VLC is a most unfriendly piece of software. It would also help if the screenshots in their guides matched the actual software at least a little bit. They must have been written for a very old version and never updated. Overall, a rather frustrating experience with VLC. – RomanSt – 2009-10-04T01:35:47.730

Windows file sharing has an incredible amount of overhead. I'd recommend using a protocol that uses less such as HTTP. I set up an apache server to just serve my video files. You can then copy the url from your browser into VLC. I was using this on my 802.11B network years ago and was able to get a much better speed.

You can also increase the buffer size in VLC. It will cause a small delay when you first start playing the video, but it should reduce the stutter.

alumb

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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Set up a decent Media Streaming application. XBMC edition is easy to use and buffers decently! Have UPNP on your router turned on!

Pit

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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Just as another datapoint: I don't have any problems watching 1Mbit/s video over 802.11g from an NFS mount using the "totem" video player (Debian/Lenny). No "streaming" software involved. I suspect totem is sensible about buffering ahead though (network bandwidth monitor shows none of the bursty bandwidth behaviour you describe).

timday

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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Can you start the movie and then hit pause allowing the media player to download the rest of the video? Then, you could play the video when it was done downloading evreything...

Mark

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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that's what I do with youtube :) – warren – 2009-08-20T11:51:23.280

1Hehe, yes, it works with services like YouTube that were built with streaming in mind. Not so much with watching an .avi off a network drive :) I really wish they did that though. – RomanSt – 2009-08-20T12:05:39.087

What kind of wireless card/adapter are you using? I went through 5 before ending with a slightly older Intel 4965AGN before i got perfect streaming. Broadcom WiFi chips seem to be quite bad at streaming. I even went up to Broadcom draft N chips and they didn't help any over G. Try finding an Intel wireless card if you're using a laptop. Fact is there are so many variables with where you live, it can be very hard to figure out what could be the main problem. The final form of N should help a lot as with beamforming.

HexiumVII

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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I can't say off the top of my head, and I have no access to the laptop right now. However the fact is that I have at least 8x-12x the theoretical minimum bandwidth available, so even if I can just fix this by getting a faster WiFi adapter it still means that something is majorly wrong with my setup. (Judging from other answers, it's "not using streaming" & "using directshow filters") – RomanSt – 2009-08-23T18:23:24.500

My home setup streams TVersity to my PS3 over 802.11g. The media server computer is like a PIII 800Mhz w/ 512MB ram. I'm able to stream w/o stuttering. Try it!

George

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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What standard of WiFi are you using? The newer 802.11n is much faster than the (more common) older 802.11g protocol and should be able to stream your videos (and maybe even HD) at sufficient speeds.

Josh Hunt

Posted 2009-08-20T09:35:24.600

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I'm aware of 802.11n, but I'd need to upgrade everything to it... Plus the dongles sticking out of laptops - I hate those. – RomanSt – 2009-08-20T10:08:36.623