Is using 4-pin connector for 8-pin ATX 12V power connector ok?

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My new computer rig has a power supply with just 1 4-pin connector but the motherboard, a GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H has an 8-pin ATX 12V power connector.

Is using only the 4-pin connector enough?

Edit:

The motherboard has a 2x12 main power connector and a 2x4 12v power connector for the CPU. According to the manual, its not even supposed to be able to be turned on without the 12V cable.

Edit 2:

  • CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz
  • PSU: 400W OCZ StealthXstream

wag2639

Posted 2010-05-27T07:29:27.257

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Fried Pin Zone. Original 4-pin would occasionally burn the pins. – Fiasco Labs – 2013-08-30T05:55:50.387

Answers

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IT depends on your CPU. The additional 4 pins were added to support the higher power draw of newer (at the time) Core 2 Quads. The 4 pins will happily provide power to most lower end CPUs, but if you have a Quad I would double check the TDP and make sure you can provide enough power with the 75W that the 4-pin can provide and that you don't need the 150W that the 8-pin provides.

Either way, I would upgrade your PSU. You can get a good, brand name, high efficiency PSU with the proper connectors for well under $100 and you will be all set in the event that you upgrade down the road.

Edit: The Rana has a 95W TDP, this means that your CPU will consume 95W on max load. Your 24 pin power connector provides 144W max on the 12V rail. 75 of these Watts are used by PCIe, which leaves ~69W for the CPU (though other components will use some of this so in reality it's probably closer to 60W). This means that with the additional 75W from the 4-pin you can ~135W available to the CPU under max load. This should be plenty assuming you are doing no overclocking and your motherboard and you don't have any other major 12v draws in your system (like an additional video card).

Seriously though, you should still get a new PSU. They can be reused in newer computers if you upgrade and there's no guarantee that you aren't voiding your motherboard warranty even though it should work.

MDMarra

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I have a triple core Athlon II, according to newegg, its rated TDP is 95W, but I believe the OCZ PSUs are reputed to be high efficiency (vs some of those crap PSUs that just claim their peak but are usually overrated by 100W) – wag2639 – 2010-05-27T15:47:15.087

@wag2639 - see my edit – MDMarra – 2010-05-27T15:54:09.503

thanks. It is a brand new PSU and I have a new 700W PSU lying around also, but it seems overkill for something like this. Its just for my parents to watch SD videos (maybe HD in future). I wasn't even going to add any PCI adapters or additional graphics card. – wag2639 – 2010-05-27T17:39:20.637

@wag2639 - Got ya. If that's the case, you should be OK from an available power standpoint. Just keep it in mind if there is ever any flakey behavior. – MDMarra – 2010-05-27T18:14:36.373

3I'm curious, if the 75W from the 4-pin wasn't enough, what would happen? Would it damage the motherboard, or just shut off? – callum – 2011-07-01T10:30:18.527

One day, the computer gets really flakey and you find wiggling the 4-pin connector brings it back to shambling life. On pulling the plug, you find the pins and sockets oxidized from the heat generated from the poor connection. You then do like my neighbor did. Heat the motherboard solder up, pull the pins. Clip the plug off, strip and stuff the wires through and solder in place. Otherwise you have to figure out how to replace the pins in the board and the sockets in the connector. – Fiasco Labs – 2013-08-30T05:59:53.683

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The CPU power connector is used to power the voltage regulators for the CPU. This is a seperate rail on the motherboard from the 12V rail on the ATX power connector so you can't just add together the capacity of this connector and the capacity of the 12V line on the main ATX power connector.

Molex "mini fit JR" connectors are supposed to be good for about 9A per pin which would allow for arround 200W on a 4 pin connector (2 power 2 ground). That should be more than enough for nearly all CPUs. Unfounrtately however many power supplies have cheap clones of a minin fit JR which can't tolerate such high currents. Also the inside of PC cases can be quite warm which reduces the safe current a bit. Combine this with enthusiasts overclocking/overvolting their CPUs and burned out connectors started to become a problem. In response motherboard vendors started fitting the 8 pin "EPS" connector (which was originally intended for high power server CPUs).

In general if you aren't overclocking/overvolting you should be fine with the 4 pin connector.

plugwash

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