i9-7940x Strange TDP increase while stress testing

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I was running the CPU torture test "In-place large FFTs" from prime95 on my brand new i9-7940x while monitoring the CPU temperature and TDP with Intel Extreme tuning utility.

During the test I noticed that at a certain point the TDP raise abruptly from 190 to 250 and subsequently the temperature hit 90+ Celsius, then I stop the test to avoid any damage to the processor.

I can't understand what's going on since according to Intel spec this processor should have a TDP of 165W, why at a certain point the TDP raise to 250?

This is the graph of the same test repeated two times:

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Where is visible the sharp TDP increase followed by the core temperature. My socket power counter (where my PC is plugged in) showed an increase of 80W in power usage while the process start going crazy.

I'm not and I don't want to be an overclocker whatsoever, I wanted just to play with my new CPU and I was wondering if what is happening is normal here. Any idea?

If this is normal then I need to buy a new cooler, the one I have now has a limit of 220TDP and if the CPU can start doing crazy thing under load (like when compiling some huge codebase) the my system is going to melt sooner or later.

Can someone comment on what might be happening here?

Some additional info, the OS is Win8.1, the mobo is an MSI X299 Carbon (Gaming PRO), the power supply is a silentiumpc 750w supremo fm2 gold, the cooler is a fortis 3 he1425 v2, the other parts probably are not relevant.

fjanisze

Posted 2018-06-09T16:50:52.067

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Answers

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Wikipedia article Thermal design power says this :

The TDP is typically not the largest amount of heat the CPU could ever generate (peak power), such as by running a power virus, but rather the maximum amount of heat that it would generate when running "real applications". This ensures the computer will be able to handle essentially all applications without exceeding its thermal envelope, or requiring a cooling system for the maximum theoretical power (which would cost more but in favor of extra headroom for processing power).

So it seems that Intel does not consider prime95 to be a "real application" (and this does have some merit). TDP of 165 W for this CPU does not mean that this is the maximum possible.

You will need to invest in a better cooling system to really stretch the capabilities of this beastie.

harrymc

Posted 2018-06-09T16:50:52.067

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Thanks! Do you have any suggestion on why the TDP raise to such a huge value after a couple of minutes into the stress test? I'm just curious on why that sudden raise in the TDP, perhaps is this coming from a CPU "feature"? – fjanisze – 2018-06-09T19:19:10.370

I don't know the answer, but I can guess that the power controller on the chip has decided to over-clock. Base Frequency is 3.10 GHz while Max Turbo is 4.30 GHz or 4.40 GHz. Apparently the prime95 program has caused it to climb to a higher performance level. This article says the i9-7980XE may go up to 500W=500TDP, so yours might be able to go even higher than 250TDP. Needs excellent cooling.

– harrymc – 2018-06-09T19:41:29.973