WIFI protocol mismatch on 5GHz

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Hardware involved: FritzBox 5490 and a Lumia 950XL smartphone (with Qualcomm Atheros AR6320)

While beeing connected on the 5GHz band the router' webinterface reports using 802.11ac for the connection with the phone, while the phone claims to be using 802.11b.

Is that even possible, 802.11b on 5GHz? Might it be some kind of fallback?

When the connection is established on the 2.4GHz band, both devices report 802.11n and there are no problems (untrue after recent tests, same problem as on 5GHz). The former connection does have problems, in that the phone gets disconnected after ~30 sec after locking the screen (with obvious implications for all network reliant apps). However, I still recieve WhatsApp&Co messages on a (roughly) 30-40 minute basis.

So...to put it crudely: what gives?

Evgeni

Posted 2017-12-12T13:51:00.400

Reputation: 85

2No, 802.11b is 2.4 gig only. – davidgo – 2017-12-12T19:03:10.270

Answers

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Is that even possible, 802.11b on 5GHz? Might it be some kind of fallback?

Not only does 802.11b operate only in the 2.4GHz band, it also uses DSSS instead of OFDM to communicate. There is no way an device using 802.11b can communicate with a device using a newer standard like 802.11g or 802.11n (assuming 802.11b legacy support is disabled on such a device).

If a newer device were to "fall back" to support 802.11b, it would only operate in 2.4GHz and only use DSSS for the communications. End result is that if your AP is showing it as connected to 5GHz as an 802.11ac device, you phone probably has a cosmetic bug displaying incorrect information.

the phone gets disconnected after ~30 sec after locking the screen

This is typical behavior for many mobile devices. When the screen locks, the device assumes it isn't being actively used and enters into a sleep or power save mode. This often includes shutting off the 802.11 interface or at the very least putting it in power save mode (if the network supports it).

If a mobile device were to continue to act like it was being used even when it wasn't, it would continue to consume power from the battery and significantly decrease the time a device could operate between charges.

I still recieve WhatsApp&Co messages on a (roughly) 30-40 minute basis.

Your device, when locked/sleeping will continue to wake up periodically to check for updates (notifications, alerts, etc). These can either be data that is "pushed" to the device/app or it may be the app "calls home" in a more active manner.

So...to put it crudely: what gives?

My best guess is that everything is behaving as it should, except for a small cosmetic bug where your phone is reporting 802.11b instead of 802.11ac.

YLearn

Posted 2017-12-12T13:51:00.400

Reputation: 1 741

Hmm....it certaintly did not behave like this with the pevious router. It seemed to stay connected and recieved push messages in a timely fashion. And other smartphones (newer and older than mine) ARE staying connected, as can be seen through the router's webinterface – Evgeni – 2017-12-13T06:23:56.033

If your phone is showing up as disconnected that quickly on the AP/router, it is likely sending a disassociation or deauthentication frame to the AP when it goes to sleep. Otherwise, most wireless infrastructure won't remove a wireless client that quickly. Still leans toward normal operations. That it doesn't behave like other wireless devices doesn't mean it isn't operating as designed. If you believe there is more to it, it would take more evidence to prove it. You can always contact your carrier's or manufacturer's support to report the difference. May get fixed with a future update. – YLearn – 2017-12-14T02:51:43.743

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My Microsoft Lumia 950XL also incorrectly reports that it is connected to 802.11b WiFi at 5 GHz when the router is transmitting 802.11ac at 5 GHz. As stated above, this can not be the case and therefore it is actually connected to 802.11ac at 5 GHz. This could be caused by the WiFi driver incorrectly reporting the WiFi type.

Anthony

Posted 2017-12-12T13:51:00.400

Reputation: 1