Why is the Core i5 5300u rated better than the i7 5600u?

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I just purchased a new x1 Carbon with all the bells and whistles. I got a Core i7-5600u which I really thought would be the better chipset to get. But now I'm looking at some benchmarks and the i5-5300u seems to outperform the i7 on every site. Now I understand that these benchmark softwares can't perfectly gauge the power of a chip but why is there a common advantage for the i5? Even though the i7 has a higher GHz rating it keeps scoring lower. Is there a technical reason or are the benchmark software created in such a way that it favors the current i5 architecture?

Here's two links: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-5300U+%40+2.30GHz&id=2459 http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5600U-vs-Intel-Core-i5-5300U

WiteCastle

Posted 2015-02-04T05:15:02.177

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There are more benchmarks and the i7 does beat the i5.

However, there still seems to be some weird performance benchmark scores flying out there. For example the Ars Technica review had some results where the gpu performance of the i7 was lower than a comparable i5's. He's got a request in with Lenovo to see why its occuring.

Here's the article: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/thinkpad-x1-carbon-review-a-fine-heir-to-the-thinkpad-name/2/

WiteCastle

Posted 2015-02-04T05:15:02.177

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2It's down to thermal throttling. They note that the fans on the XPS with the "slower" CPU spin up and get loud very quickly and so it's able to sustain a boosted GPU speed of 900MHz throughout the benchmark. The X1 on the other hand gets boosted to 900MHz but then falls back to 750MHz after a while. This is indicative of thermal throttling. – CadentOrange – 2015-03-06T10:44:02.973

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That is normal for 3 main reasons:

  1. the benchamrks score depends on the ram installed, whether it is in dual channel mode or not, so a core i5 with faster ram may perform faster.

  2. heat sink and cooling, those processors are usually coupled with heat sink and fans that can only dissipate heat generated by 15 watt of power, which is the required by Intel, however, to achive higher turbo boost speeds, the processor needs to use more power than 15w, so it depends on the specific laptop and how much heat it can dissipate above the required 15 watts.

  3. different manufacturers may limit the power draw when the processor tries to use more than 15 watts, to avoid possibly overheating the laptop.

The only thing you can do is to check that your laptop is cooling properly and not limited due to over heating.

If the processor is limited due to OEM, you can complain to them, in some cases they may relax limitation by a software update to the BIOS.

sharp12345

Posted 2015-02-04T05:15:02.177

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There is a small difference between them but i7 5600u is better because it has:

  1. Cache 4MB (vs 3MB)
  2. Processor Base Frequency 2.6 GHz (vs 2.3 GHz)
  3. Max Turbo Frequency 3.2 GHz (vs 2.7 GHz)
  4. Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency 950 MHz (vs 900 MHz)

But if I was buying I would go for the i5-5300U because it's a lot cheaper! (Recommended Customer Price $281.00 vs $393.00 for i7)

It's rated better because on tests i5 had better single core performance on both sites. On Cpubenchmark there is a huge difference in single core performance: i5(1644) vs i7(1248).

I really think it's the same cpu with different clock multiplier settings :D
And tests are there to be wrong! Just look at the Reasons to consider the Intel Core i7 5600U on Cpuboss.

Davidenko

Posted 2015-02-04T05:15:02.177

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Being a cache difference, it can be the same die with some cache disabled. The old sell everything trick. – Overmind – 2015-02-04T09:45:42.140

2@Davidenko - I don't trust the performance benchmarks. The i7 should out perform the i5 for the reasons you list. Its safe to say the benchmarks you linked to are flawed for that reason. – Ramhound – 2015-02-04T11:57:41.663

1@Ramhound I agree! But still to pay 30% more for i7 doesn't seem like an option to me. I would choose i5 if I was buying! – Davidenko – 2015-02-04T12:43:24.317

I don't know if the price to performance is enough for me to choose the i7 and I also loose some battery life too. I'll only be using the laptop for development and light photoshops so I think the i5 will do. – WiteCastle – 2015-02-05T16:11:34.440

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-EDITED- Looks like some sites were wrongfully listing the CPUs as different architecture. I opened notifications to them.

Since architecture is identical, the 5600 should outperform the 5300, however it appears that there are no relevant benchmarks available yet.

Overmind

Posted 2015-02-04T05:15:02.177

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They are both Broadwell... 1 vs. 2

– Davidenko – 2015-02-04T07:58:42.327

1You are correct, I have checked directly with intel support. Updated above post. – Overmind – 2015-02-04T08:38:29.837