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I have some hard drives (IDE) from my old PC and I need the files that are on it to put onto my new PC. My new PC has a SATA drive and it's an All-in-One HP PC.
I bought an External Enclosure for Hard Disk (the brand is Connectland). I would have bought a better brand but there isn't really much in the way of computer supplies near where I live.
On the box, it says it supports:
- USB 2.0
- 3.5"
- SATA
- IDE
Most of the Connectland's web pages are in another language. Even if I click on the English flag to show the English version, only certain web pages (the useless ones) are in English.
2 of my old drives are IDE, and 1 is SATA.
There is no support on the Connectland website and no drivers etc are available for download from the Connectland website.
When I put the IDE drives in and power it on and plug it in nothing happens. The drive can't be seen in Windows/File Explorer. When I go to Device Manager there is an exclamation (the yellow icon) next to it. When I go to Disk Management it does not appear.
If I right click Disk Management in the treeview, and select Rescan or Refresh, it still doesn't show that IDE drive.
I've right clicked it in Device Manager and selected Update Drivers but it (as usual) says I already have the latest drivers installed.
The old SATA drive works perfectly with the enclosure. But none of the IDE drives work. Windows cannot recognize them.
Formatting them is not an option because: 1. I need the data that's on them! and; 2. I can't see them anywhere on the PC! So I can't format them!
I've searched tirelessly but have come up empty handed.
Does anybody know why this won't work for me? Or how I can fix it?
I don't know if this is relevant or not but I think it's an important connection:
My current PC has a Sata drive. Old sats drives that I put into the enclosure appear and work perfectly on my current PC. But IDE drives are not recognized.
Note: While Windows is starting up I can press F9 and it will allow me to see all drives that I can boot from. It shows the IDE drive in the Legacy boot list BUT I can't boot from it it's just a disk with lots of files (no operating system on it).
I can also change a setting in BIOS from ACHI (I think that's what it was) to IDE but then I can't boot into windows on my internal, primary drive which means I still can't access the drive in the enclosure. How do I get around this? This enclosure says I can put IDE and SATA drives in it and my current PC has an internal SATA drive, but only SATA drives that are in the enclosure are being recognized by windows!
Please help.
jay_t55
Posted 2014-10-05T12:33:17.300
Reputation: 468
Have you in any way looked at the jumper settings on the IDE drives? Better put them on "master" setting, or - if that doesn't work - cable select (CSEL). Mostly the jumpers are at the back and the drive contains a sticker on how to configure the drives. – Maarten Bodewes – 2014-10-05T13:06:50.687
By the way, USB-2.0 will require lot of waiting. It will max at 40 MB/s and it has huge latency issues (so don't mix copy commands, and beware of small files slowing down your transfer to near nothing at all - possibly first zip them on the other computer). USB-3 would have up to 4 times faster. – Maarten Bodewes – 2014-10-05T13:10:43.410
The BIOS settings for hard drives have nothing to do with USB connected drives, by the way. – Maarten Bodewes – 2014-10-05T13:11:30.770
@owlstead Jumper settings? I keep reading that everywhere I look. On the IDE drive, where are the jumper settings? Is this on the computer (GUI) or is this actually physically on the drive itself? Like those little tiny pins etc? – jay_t55 – 2014-10-05T13:27:57.283
The pins on the drive yes... Look for a sticker for the meaning for your particular brand or lookup the manual on the internet. If it is already on master or cable select try the other one; if it is on slave it is certainly likely to be a problem. Otherwise you may want to check the partitions on the drive using e.g. GParted. – Maarten Bodewes – 2014-10-05T13:29:27.490
One moment, I will post back, thank you @owlstead – jay_t55 – 2014-10-05T13:30:33.690
I don't see any settings anywhere @owlstead, there's nothing like master, CSEL etc. No stickers. This isn't making any sense. I just looked up how to set to master or cable select. There's no way to change anything. The instructions on the sticker say "Set the jumper to Cable Select if using Ultra ATA..." but there's nowhere to set anything! – jay_t55 – 2014-10-05T13:44:04.567
Let us continue this discussion in chat.
– jay_t55 – 2014-10-05T13:45:13.007Cannot chat... it seems that I lose my login when I try to chat... Do you see a block of 8 pins next to the flat cable connection (with many more pins?) Some may be covered with a small piece of plastic / metal that connects two pins. – Maarten Bodewes – 2014-10-05T13:55:02.557
@owlstead same here. I just figured out how to set jumper. Am trying it again. Will post back in a sec – jay_t55 – 2014-10-05T14:12:22.993
1@owlstead OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG! IT'S WORKING! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D – jay_t55 – 2014-10-05T14:29:42.837
Which was the winning jumper setting? Master or CS? – Maarten Bodewes – 2014-10-05T14:31:38.700
1@owlstead Sorry about the delay, I got distracted copying my old C# projects over to my new drive. The winning jumper setting was Cable Select :D – jay_t55 – 2014-10-05T14:43:00.043
1For the benefit of other readers with a similar problem, you don't need to mess with drivers for external hard drive enclosures or adapters if your version of Windows is later than 98. They are built into Windows. – fixer1234 – 2014-10-05T15:14:06.967