Water cooling a PC, is it really expensive?

Question

I recently read an article saying you can overclock an i5 750 to perform almost as well as a core i7 975 extreme (factory settings). But obviously this requires some serious cooling.

Is installing a water cooling solution expensive and complicated?

I would like to start trying out new stuff, but I have very little knowledge on overclocking and cooling.

Answer 1

Skip the liquid cooling while you are learning. You can typically get a very good OC out of Intel chips on air, you really only need liquid if you are running the vCore (CPU Voltage) at a dangerous level and need the extra heat removal. At a safe vCore, you will most likely hit a CPU or system clock limitation before you will hit a heat limit as long as you have a good aftermarket cooler.

Tom's Hardware and Extreme Overclocking both are good places to start looking for advice on OCing, but since every chip is different, and every combination of motherboard, CPU, RAM, and PSU will yield different results, there is no real way to hold your hand through it. Trial and error is your friend, you'll quickly learn where your BIOS reset jumper is on the motherboard :)

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Here are some basic facts regarding overclocking

System Clock
The System Clock is the central device in the computer from where most other component frequencies are derived. On Intel pre-I7 generation you could not directly control this. On AMD and current I7 boards, you can modify this directly.

FSB
The FSB, which is now antiquated, but is still relevant for most of the processors in circulation, was typically a multiple of the system clock and raising the FSB would actually raise the system clock. Intel motherboards had a 4x multiplier on the FSB, meaning that FSB = system clock * 4. So a 1333HMz FSB would have the system clock set at 333MHz. Raising the FSB to 1600MHz would raise the system clock to 400MHz.

CPU
Each CPU has its own multiplier that is used to derive its speed from the system clock as well. A Q6600 from Intel has a 9 multiplier and was spec'd to run on a 1066MHz FSB.

1066/4 = ~266 which is the system clock 266 * 9 (multiplier) = ~2.4GHz which is where the speed is derived from

If you increase the FSB or System clock directly (depending on what motherboard/cpu you have) you increase the frequency that all other components that tie into it operate at. This includes RAM as well, luckily on most motherboards you can control the RAM multiplier, allowing for high FSB/CPU speeds with relatively normal RAM frequency. RAM is the least overclockable component of the bunch.

These are the basics of how the components inter-relate to each other.

Voltage
Components are spec'd to run at certain voltages, the higher the voltage, the faster you can make it run, but the more heat it generates. Also, if the voltage is extremely high you can actually physically damage the component.

DDR2 RAM for example is spec'd to run at 1.8v, but it can safely be run at 2.1v and some RAM will even tell you to run it at 2.1v if you want the advertised speed (Corsair, I'm looking at you.) It is entirely possibly that an 800MHz stick of RAM rated at 1.8v is the exact same as a stick that is rated at 1066MHz with slightly looser timings and requires 2.1v, yet you will pay more for the 1066MHz module.

This is just a rough outline, but if you google "safe voltage for ..." you can get a good feel for where others that have already successfully OC'd their components are stopping and where heat levels get unbearable. As long as you know where the reset jumper is and keep the voltages safe there is a relatively low risk of you actually damaging anything.

Answer 2

A few years ago watercooling might have been the go-to answer, but lately with heat-pipe technology, more efficient air cooling, watercooling has taken a back seat. As MarkM stated, unless you go into doing something like increasing vCore way out of spec (or moding directly onto the hardware) I would point you to a good air cooler, pick one thats got great reviews (pick a site, like newegg for instance, and just look for reviews).

Add some arctic silver on the chip and between the aircooler, and you are on the right path.

However, since you asked, water cooling is more expensive typically, because you have to 'invest' in the components. Back about 8-10 years aog when I dabbled in watercooling, the custom system (NOT a cheapo kit) that I put together (cpu + mobo + gpu cooling) cost me about $300 bucks (just for the water cooling system!).

Plus you quickly realize that if you are an avid upgrader (I was, at the time), you need to then disassemble the system (remember its liquid you are playing with now + expensive electronics), and then reassemble again, while hoping nothing leaks.

The straw that broke the camels back for me was getting a new GPU that I didn't have a cooling block for, so I took the gpu out of the liquid cool loop, after that I quickly got tired of the crap in the case and dissasembled it and went to a whisper quiet Zalman cooler.

On a positive note, watercooling was whisper quiet, as the pump I had was nearly silent (and high flow), and the 120mm fan on my radiator was very quiet as well.

Answer 3

They have completely self-contained units for sale nowadays, for $60 or so, that can seriously quite down your computer, as well as provide superior cooling capacity. And they aren't what I would call "cheap kits".

It's now just plug-and-play. Attach the block to the CPU, attach the fan and radiator to the case, and plug it in. Usually it requires two fan slots. One for the pump and one for the radiator fan.

I don't ever plan on going back to air cooled heatsinks on any computers I build anymore.