Where to install small programs without installers on Windows?

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On the Windows platform, most large applications come with their own installer which sets up folders under C:\Program Files, possibly some other places, and perhaps adding some registry keys, etc.

But there's still quite a few tools around that consist of just an .exe or maybe also a README and a .dll or two.

How should I install such tools? Directly in C:\Program Files? All in one subfolder under C:\Program Files? Somewhere under C:\Users\Me? Somewhere totally different?

Or maybe different approaches for the tools with just an .exe to those that also have other files, or maybe only the ones with .dlls need to be treated differenty ...

Is there any standard accepted way to do this? A "best practice"? If the answer depends on the Windows version, I'm using Windows 7.

In particular, what might strike people as the obvious answer seems to have a catch:

I had tried to manually create new subfolders under C:\Program Files. In fact I thought I had done so before, but Windows puts up a dialog Destination Folder Access Denied. This caused me to think twice rather than just blindly click Continue.

Destination Folder Access Denied

On the assumption that greater minds than mine have come up against this many times over the years I'd like to ask the community if some kind of "best practice" has come to be accepted.

hippietrail

Posted 2013-01-11T08:18:45.693

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@UltraDEVV: I want to know if others have considered this problem and decided upon a "best practice". I want to know what solutions are out there before deciding whether to install in C:\Program Files or elsewhere and I provide info on a potential barrier to C:\Program Files being an obvious solution. – hippietrail – 2014-09-24T05:50:28.663

So read mine! http://superuser.com/a/815831/354352

– UltraDEVV – 2014-09-24T05:53:36.563

@UltraDEVV: I already read yours and I already voted for it. It's cool to see this sleeper question come back to life after a three-and-a-half year rest! – hippietrail – 2014-09-24T06:09:35.230

I am glad that the bounty time is ending. This question made my mind blown up. You folks, dont ask opinion-based questions in the future please ... – UltraDEVV – 2014-09-25T15:21:24.180

@UltraDEVV: It's not an opinion-based question. It's just a question that successfully determined that in this case there is no one approach generally held to be the best practice. So now I and others can stop wondering. – hippietrail – 2014-09-25T15:29:28.540

Yes but it no matters where you copy it. I have copied them almost everywhere and I had no problem. (Eclipse on desktop, some in program files, some in D: drive and ...) but answers were nice to read, thanks for asking. – UltraDEVV – 2014-09-25T15:36:30.657

awarded answer looks to me a bit unexpected :) Chocolatey's point has something to do with the question, but I wouldn't say it is primarily about directory standard. Maybe you actually wanted to ask something else? Could you please explain what thoughts led you to selected answer? – miroxlav – 2014-09-26T23:17:20.117

One could say that an unclear question from almost two years ago can be answered in a million different ways, two years later.

Imagine the unlimited posibilities if one keeps 'fishing' for the 'correct' answer for another 10 years or so. – liquidplace – 2014-10-10T15:07:05.370

3What point of view are you asking this question from? Specifically, is this an application that you're writing, or are you trying to install somebody else's application(s)? – Harry Johnston – 2013-01-14T01:28:35.610

2@HarryJohnston: It's for installing other people's applications. I downloaded several programs designed to view or edit very large files the other day and a couple didn't have installers. But the same applies for most command-line tools on Windows too, of which I have several. – hippietrail – 2013-01-14T06:22:34.930

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Use C:\Tools

or C:\Users\<user>\Tools
 

I'm using many small programs without installer and I'm recommending the following:

  • Save them all into C:\Tools
  • If a program consists of single file, put it directly under C:\Tools
  • If a program consists of multiple files, put it under C:\Tools\ProgramName
  • SysInternals tools have a special category C:\Tools\_SysInternals because there is many of them

I'm simply moving C:\Tools from machine to machine when migrating, works like a charm.

Practical sample (shortened listing):

C:\Tools\autoexec-elevated.bat
C:\Tools\cleanup.bat
C:\Tools\BabelMap.exe
C:\Tools\netmon.exe
C:\Tools\notifu.exe
C:\Tools\putty.exe
C:\Tools\UDPixel.exe
C:\Tools\battery.vbs

C:\Tools\3dclip-1.5.1\
C:\Tools\alternatestreamview\
C:\Tools\blender-2.71-windows64\
C:\Tools\Notepad++\
C:\Tools\QueryExpress\
C:\Tools\winscp555\
C:\Tools\Xinorbis\

C:\Tools\_Sysinternals\accesschk\
C:\Tools\_Sysinternals\Autoruns\
C:\Tools\_Sysinternals\depends22_x64\
C:\Tools\_Sysinternals\depends22_x86\
C:\Tools\_Sysinternals\LogonSessions\

I hope this gives an idea.

EDIT: Extended info

I suppose that under install in your question How should I install such tools? you actually mean manual setup, something like copying the files.

Rule of thumb: Use manually created folders for manually maintained files. Let system folders to be used by (installation) processes you don't directly control. You will immediately get benefit of recognition which content is 'yours' (and you can freely copy it) and which application is managed by the installer.

So when installing manually (by copying), stay away from

  • C:\Program Files - programs found here cannot be simply migrated, must be reinstalled (gives a great hint for migration)
  • C:\Program Files (x86) - as the above, but on 64-bit systems, 32-bit programs go here (can give a hint to determine whether particular app is 32-bit or 64-bit)
  • C:\ProgramData - application storages found here show that these programs maintain some of their data in their own way. But you asked about putting your programs under Data? Not a good idea.
  • C:\Users\Steven\AppData - again, putting programs under Data is not a good idea. If you asked about data, then several interesting things can be written about this path. But for programs simply 'no'. :)

Possible path

  • C:\Users\Steven - can be your alternative root if this is a shared computer and you want to keep it tidy, so you decide not to create any global directories. You can consider C:\Users\Steven\Tools for your programs or even C:\Users\Steven\Desktop\Tools if you want to use comfortable Desktop folder access available via shortcut from many places in Windows. But better can be the former one and you can still place the shortcut to this folder to desktop or whenever needed.

Edit: Additional useful hint:

If you want to make some of your small programs recognized in Windows 10 Start menu (for incremental searching of their names or instant elevated start using Ctrl+Shift+Enter), add their shortcuts there and launch them once. (Then you can remove them.)

miroxlav

Posted 2013-01-11T08:18:45.693

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This sounds good, but is it supported by best practices documentation or something like that? If so, it would really improve the answer. – None – 2017-02-18T15:06:34.037

@DoritoStyle – you might need to check current best practices documentation in your corporation. If you know about some more general best practices documentation, please let me know and I'll check it. – miroxlav – 2017-02-18T16:28:38.460

1I use "C:\Utility" but otherwise use this same approach! – Jon Schneider – 2017-08-25T15:38:07.620

Will something else, rather than 'Tools' work just as well: If I were to use something like C:\Other or C:\Users\<user>\Other, would that be considered just as "legit" as 'Tools'? – Henrik – 2018-06-07T20:42:25.083

@Henrik - since there is no standard, use whatever fits your feelings and is clear enough. For example, I tried C:\Progs (name evokes small programs without installer), but at the end of the day it felt unintuitive so I reverted the name back to Tools. – miroxlav – 2018-06-07T22:36:34.223

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As far as I know there's no universal approach.

Placing your applications into C:\Program Files is a rather standard way. And you'll get the access protection: regular (and non-elevated) users can't write to C:\Program Files. So you can't accidentally delete, overwrite such files; and they're better protected from viruses.

That is why you get the warning — elevation request – when you try to create a folder in C:\Program Files.

Hence, C:\Program Files is the most secure place for executable files.

However, it is not suitable for (portable) apps which store their configuration near the .exe because they won't be able to save the configuration changes.


C:\ProgramData is for storing application data shared among users. By default all users can create files and folders here but only the user that created them can modify the files.

This folder could be easily used for shared apps/tools. At the same time, I never saw an app in this folder.


If you place apps in your user profile, C:\Users\<username>, other users of the system will have no access to it. You have all the permissions to your profile, so you won't get any security warning. That's the reason why Chrome installs into user's profile: it can update itself easily without prompting for elevation.

In per-user mode, Windows Installer packages, .msi files, install to C:Users\<username>\AppData\Microsoft\Installer\<ProductId>. So it's quite standard to keep non-shared apps in user's profile.

I have utils folder in my user's profile with apps which are useful only to me. This folder is added to my users PATH environment variable for easy access.

For shared apps, I use C:\tools or similar directory, possibly on another drive. It's added to global PATH variable.

Alexey Ivanov

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I agree with already given answers to some point. But for really small programs (utils) I tend to put them to bin folder (in my case E:\bin). These programs are usually single exe file or my own python scripts. I add this folder to PATH variable so I can use these program from command line (which I tend to use quite a lot).

del-boy

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I did also consider making a generic C:\Program Files\bin for these types of tools and utilities. Thanks for the feedback. – hippietrail – 2013-01-11T09:51:21.847

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As far as I know there are no best practices. It is really up to you individually to decide how you want to handle it.

I tend to follow the same standard as any application with an installer. If it is an executable or library I would place in either in \Program Files\ if it is 64Bit and Program Files (x86)\ if it's 32Bit.

Data files I tend to store in my Users folders since they are normally specific to a user.

There are also applications like Google Chrome and Click-Once Applications that deploy to Users\AppData\, however these are not normally available to multiple profiles.

I prefer the first method because if I need to log in on another profile or as administrator I can still access the applications.

With regards to the permission warning. It is exactly that, a warning. It is simply to warn you from using the folder for the wrong reasons, however it doesn't prevent you from using it.

BinaryMisfit

Posted 2013-01-11T08:18:45.693

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3I recommend not to manually install anything to %ProgramFiles% too, but for another reason: applications without installers are often portable, and you do not have write permission there – kinokijuf – 2014-09-28T07:23:41.087

4I recommend not manually installing applications in the Program Files folder, because applications without installers are often either elderly or ports from other operating systems, so they don't always cope well with the space in the path. YMMV. – Harry Johnston – 2013-01-14T01:31:39.570

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If you're looking to standardize these applications then I'd suggest using the Chocolatey package standards. This is good for a lot of different reasons; mainly because a lot of the software has already been packaged for you and is ready to install from anywhere with just a few commands.

It is also easy to make your own packages for applications which you can't freely distribute. You probably do have the right to distribute anything you own on your own network; so for those applications you can setup a local repository. If you are managing many computers or have limited internet bandwidth this can be helpful even for the free stuff.

krowe

Posted 2013-01-11T08:18:45.693

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If you take cygwin's default install choices, it places all your files at c:\cygwin. I would take the same approach. I personally have a c:\apps folder. In the past, I have used c:\utils, and c:\cli (short for command line). It really depends on how you want to organize your files. I would suggest for single off utilities to place them in a catchall folder. For a suite of utilities (e.g. cygwin, sysinternals, rktools), might I suggest a subfolder of its own. For example, you might put all the sysinternals inside c:\apps\sysinternals. If you install cygwin, that will take most (if not all) of the Unix commands you have come to love.

Remember to change your environmental variables (Start > Control Panel > System > Advanced > Environmental Variables) and appendd any new app paths to your PATH system variable. This allows you to run them on demand from the command prompt or by using Windows+R (run command).

Sun

Posted 2013-01-11T08:18:45.693

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5I think Cygwin developers don't care about Windows standards and it's wrong to copy their bad habit (creating folders in root directory). I feel its like creating \Program Files directory in linux. – Kamil – 2014-09-24T12:05:47.323

I don't know why that would be a bad thing. Cygwin is for a Unix environment. Why would Cygwin cater to Windows standards, when they are for people that want to use Unix tools? – Sun – 2014-09-25T15:24:18.870

@Sun exactly! OP asked for Windows best practices. – None – 2017-02-18T15:07:31.987

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C:\Users\Me\toolName (a.k.a %homepath%\toolName) is the correct place of putting the tools assuming you want it for the Me user since some of this tools writing (temp) files and will require user's permission in-order to write toProgram files folder. another plus is that you won't forget to back it up because it's already in the user space.

Elazaron

Posted 2013-01-11T08:18:45.693

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2I would use %homepath%' rather thanc:\users\me`. This points to the right location even if the default location was moved, and is thus more portable. +1 for the writing/temp part. – Hennes – 2014-09-26T13:03:28.567

i stand corrected and edited in the reason it was added and not replaced is to answer with the same terms as the question, thanks Hennes :) – Elazaron – 2014-09-28T07:21:47.857

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The default system Path environment variable in windows is something like (Depending on the version of windows installed):

%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\

Out of those options, %SystemRoot% (which is usually C:/) seems like the best choice for you read/write and it will be easy to reference later.

user394804

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There are no rules about this, you can install them where-ever you want to, but installing them to your OSP (Operating System Partition) in a non-user folder is generally a good idea, because you'll get the same access protections are you have on other applications; this makes it harder to accidentally delete, or have them modified by a third party (eg: virus).

Personally, I usually put the program in "C:\Program Files (x86)", because most such programs I've encountered are 32bit, but if it was a 64bit program then I'd place it in C:\Program Files". If it's a system related program (eg: Imagex.exe) then I will place it in "C:\Windows\system32" for 32bit programs, and "C:\Windows\system32" for 64bit programs to allow easier access from the command line when running elevated command prompts, because you start in C:\Windows\system32" by default; this means you can type "name.exe" instead of C:\location\name.exe" to run the program.

Some people prefer to seperate their portable (does not require installation or perform unsupervised alternations outside its folder), and non-installer-based (not portable, but doesn't require use of an installer) programs from regular programs by creating a new directory on their OSP (eg: C:\Portable Program Files (x86), or C:\Dumpable Program Files (x86). I would advise the 2nd of the 2 given it's greater level of accuracy, even if it doesn't sound as pretty.

To summarize, there are no rules, however if you install them to the OSP (in a non-user folder) you will be able to help protect the program from undesired un-installation/modifications (including malicious modifications), and under some circumstances organization can be beneficial (eg: the previously mentioned system32 folder for system CLI programs).

Robin Hood

Posted 2013-01-11T08:18:45.693

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1I think you have fundamentally misunderstood the question. The first part of the original question is "Best practice", not "What are the rules". – Steven Penny – 2014-09-21T00:31:13.207

@StevenPenny Not at all, just a different phrasing. The point of the question is reasons to do X or not do X. – Robin Hood – 2014-09-21T00:37:28.387

I just came up with something I like: Etc or Etcetera if you prefer real fancy pansy latin. On a close second place, I also considered Misc. But Etc sealed the deal for me. :) – Henrik – 2018-06-07T21:05:43.923

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I think creating a shortcut to C:\Tools in the Send To menu in windows is the best option as it is always accessible from anywhere. This way you could quickly "install" your small programs by right-clicking them and choosing Tools out of the Send To menu from anywhere in Windows.

I got this Tutorial about How to add to Send To menu from HowToGeek
I paste the summary:

To get to the SendTo folder, you’ll need to open up an Explorer window, and then paste in the following to the address bar.

%APPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo

Then Paste the shortcut of the folder you want your programs to be copied there.

Then every time you download a new portable app just extract it and send it to that place.
The only problem is creation of shortcuts which I think worth to do it manually.
Regards.

UltraDEVV

Posted 2013-01-11T08:18:45.693

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The Send To folder isn't really suitable for use as a location to install a program. It has a specific purpose, namely, to enable sending files/documents for further handling by a program (e.g. Opening a file in Notepad). Further, all files placed in the Send To folder will appear on the Windows Context menu, including supporting .DLLs. That's clearly not desirable in the majority of cases. – I say Reinstate Monica – 2014-09-25T01:48:29.793

1No. Looks like you and all downvoters did not get what I meant. I mean Add a shortcut of for example C:\Tools\ to Send To folder and access it from any where then you will not have the hassle of coping each of your programs manually. My answer is likely to make faster the process of coping for other stuff read others. It works for me great. – UltraDEVV – 2014-09-25T10:34:39.763

I made a possible edit to include this additional clarification in your answer. Answers are up/down voted based on the answer, not necessarily on details included in comments, so hopefully this will help. – I say Reinstate Monica – 2014-09-25T13:52:38.690

No, starting with Windows Vista, the %APPDATA% variable is rooted in the %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming folder, so for Windows 7 the path above is correct. In Windows XP you would need to add the Roaming folder as you indicated, however. – I say Reinstate Monica – 2014-09-25T14:31:19.140

If you believe your question is not clear you should clarify it. Why did you submit two answers? – Ramhound – 2014-09-25T14:55:00.867

Apologies, I just rechecked %APPDATA% on Windows 7 does include roaming :/ – DavidPostill – 2014-09-25T16:35:48.810