TATP... Tricycloacetone peroxide... Easy to make easy to detonate, and although believed the contrary some very astounding reports of just how much shock this little bastard really can take. (alright enough with the bullshit, i am high)

one of the reasons acetone peroxide is so attractive to people as an explosive, both to shit around with, and to make for serious applications, is that it is rarely seen in the news. No one in the general public knew it existed until now. Thats because i just saw it mentioned on CNN. The guy that tried to light his shoe bomb apparently used petn with an AP initiator. This pisses me off. A once fairly unknown explosive, that had real promises for the "at home enthusiest" (so to speak) is going to be black listed. i.e. precursors are going to become harder and roskier to get. Fucking sucks...

(bare with me on any fucking up sentances. but like i said ubove i am blazed.)

[ January 11, 2002: Message edited by: CragHack ]</p>

The precursors for AP are so basic that it would be very difficult to restrict them. You don't even need pure chemicals, products containing the required chemical are easy to find and still work well.

very true. the chemicals used for making AP have so many other legitimate uses that it would be extremely inconvenient to limit them in any real capacity.

i think AP is less of a threat than other explosives despite its lack in needing expertise and chemical supplies for the simple reasons that is unstable (i still can't believe the guy WALKED on this stuff), volatile, and not very powerful relative to other HE's.

I don't think there's much chance of hydrogen peroxide being pulled off the pharmacy shelves and nail polish remover requiring licensing to buy.

:p

And the media hacks didn't give an expose on how to make the shit either, so it's highly unlikely that there's going to be a sudden rush of pre-teens blowing off their hands trying to make some.

Did CNN even use the proper name for it? Did they call it Acetone Peroxide? Or some mongrelized version that wouldn't get any hits on an internet search?

People magazine actually said that he bought the AP in Paris. :rolleyes:

They called it "tri acetone tri peroxide". Yes, with the spaces. Pretty stupid looking if you ask me, they should have at least called it "triacetone triperoxide" without the added spaces. Clearly the journalist knew absolutely nothing about chemistry, chemical names, and explosives. Absolute retard. The article was very confused, disorganized and did not seem to be written by someone who had an understanding of what they were talking about. Kind of like the police who, when commenting of 4oz. of C-4 that was found in a locker at a bus station, said that "it could have brought down the entire building". (1) 4oz?! No way! (2) There wasn't even a blasting cap of any sort. No fuse either. There was no way that was going off.

The journalist supported that point of view.

Articles like that make the average k3\/\/L 3o/\/\33r look like an all knowing god.

[ January 13, 2002: Message edited by: Pu239 Stuchtiger ]</p>

It is actually:
CycloTriAcetonPeroxyde CTAP
and not as it is wrongly named by many:
TriCycloAcetonPeroxyde TCAP
Nor even triacetontriperoxyde what would induce people to think there are 3*3peroxyl groups (3 on each aceton!)

For obvious reasons it is CTAP and not TCAP nor TCTATP:
First it is a CYCLIC TRIMER of Aceton Peroxyde
Secondly it is a Mono cylic structure not a tricylo (meaning 3 rings should be in the structure)

You have HAP, CDiAP, CTriAP and CTeAP:
*HAP:Hydroxyacetonperoxyde or monoacetonperoxyde hydrate
(CH3)2C(OH)(O-O-H)
*CDiAP: cyclodiacetonperoxyde (and not DiCAP since you have 1 ring and not 2)
(CH3)2C(-O-O-)2C(CH3)2
*CTriAP: cyclotriacetonperoxyde (and not TriCAP since there is stil one ring and not 3)
(-O-O-C(CH3)2-)3
*CTeAP: cyclotetraacetonperoxyde (and not TeCAP since 1 ring and not 4)
(-O-O-C(CH3)2-)4

thanks philou, great to see you back