View Full Version : AP/AN 1:5 as a Detonater?
sjaak
April 9th, 2005, 10:11 AM
I was thinking of something when i didnt had any AP left.
Its al gone in a week or so because of detonating every day LoL!
Would APAN the flame sensitive version be a good detonater for ANNM or other explosives.
I think that APAN is less sensitive than normal AP and it is stronger than AP itself plzzz correct me if im wrong :eek:
My idee was to make APAN 1:5 and put a gram or two in a drinking straw and make a good DET of it would it be better than Normal AP?
sjaak
April 9th, 2005, 10:11 AM
I was thinking of something when i didnt had any AP left.
Its al gone in a week or so because of detonating every day LoL!
Would APAN the flame sensitive version be a good detonater for ANNM or other explosives.
I think that APAN is less sensitive than normal AP and it is stronger than AP itself plzzz correct me if im wrong :eek:
My idee was to make APAN 1:5 and put a gram or two in a drinking straw and make a good DET of it would it be better than Normal AP?
sjaak
April 9th, 2005, 10:11 AM
I was thinking of something when i didnt had any AP left.
Its al gone in a week or so because of detonating every day LoL!
Would APAN the flame sensitive version be a good detonater for ANNM or other explosives.
I think that APAN is less sensitive than normal AP and it is stronger than AP itself plzzz correct me if im wrong :eek:
My idee was to make APAN 1:5 and put a gram or two in a drinking straw and make a good DET of it would it be better than Normal AP?
tom haggen
April 16th, 2005, 05:33 AM
I'm going to take a moment to reflect on my past experiences. First of all, my level of stupidity was bordering that of yours. However, I was able to properly compose a post, all be it they were shitty posts. Anyway, my point is that I was lucky not to have blown a finger off in the process. My advice to you is to put down the explosives for a while and pick up some books before you hurt yourself.
tom haggen
April 16th, 2005, 05:33 AM
I'm going to take a moment to reflect on my past experiences. First of all, my level of stupidity was bordering that of yours. However, I was able to properly compose a post, all be it they were shitty posts. Anyway, my point is that I was lucky not to have blown a finger off in the process. My advice to you is to put down the explosives for a while and pick up some books before you hurt yourself.
tom haggen
April 16th, 2005, 05:33 AM
I'm going to take a moment to reflect on my past experiences. First of all, my level of stupidity was bordering that of yours. However, I was able to properly compose a post, all be it they were shitty posts. Anyway, my point is that I was lucky not to have blown a finger off in the process. My advice to you is to put down the explosives for a while and pick up some books before you hurt yourself.
Idiot
April 16th, 2005, 05:57 AM
Hmmm, I don't think it's good bcap. Firstly and the most important thing it's unstable and can't be stored more than week. Secondly it's very weak explosive(See Boomer tests in VoD measuring thread). I Wouldn't use this shitty cap...
Idiot
April 16th, 2005, 05:57 AM
Hmmm, I don't think it's good bcap. Firstly and the most important thing it's unstable and can't be stored more than week. Secondly it's very weak explosive(See Boomer tests in VoD measuring thread). I Wouldn't use this shitty cap...
Idiot
April 16th, 2005, 05:57 AM
Hmmm, I don't think it's good bcap. Firstly and the most important thing it's unstable and can't be stored more than week. Secondly it's very weak explosive(See Boomer tests in VoD measuring thread). I Wouldn't use this shitty cap...
cyclonite4
April 16th, 2005, 08:13 AM
Tom is right, and I was in the same situation also, and chemistry (knowledge of) saved my life!
He is also right about proper posting. Correct spelling and grammar are a must, and may I recommend you don't use words like 'LoL!' and 'plzzz', and use question marks at the end of a sentence which is quite obviously a question.
Also, this problem sounds like something you could figure out yourself, wouldn't you agree?
P.S. This should be in the section 'Other Explosives', not in the High explosives section, because this does not involve HE's. :rolleyes:
cyclonite4
April 16th, 2005, 08:13 AM
Tom is right, and I was in the same situation also, and chemistry (knowledge of) saved my life!
He is also right about proper posting. Correct spelling and grammar are a must, and may I recommend you don't use words like 'LoL!' and 'plzzz', and use question marks at the end of a sentence which is quite obviously a question.
Also, this problem sounds like something you could figure out yourself, wouldn't you agree?
P.S. This should be in the section 'Other Explosives', not in the High explosives section, because this does not involve HE's. :rolleyes:
cyclonite4
April 16th, 2005, 08:13 AM
Tom is right, and I was in the same situation also, and chemistry (knowledge of) saved my life!
He is also right about proper posting. Correct spelling and grammar are a must, and may I recommend you don't use words like 'LoL!' and 'plzzz', and use question marks at the end of a sentence which is quite obviously a question.
Also, this problem sounds like something you could figure out yourself, wouldn't you agree?
P.S. This should be in the section 'Other Explosives', not in the High explosives section, because this does not involve HE's. :rolleyes:
tomu
April 16th, 2005, 02:15 PM
What do you exactly mean by the attribute "stronger"?
I can imagine that will produce more hot gases, VOD might possibly go down compared to pure AP.
One or two gramms seems a little low for a booster charge.
Anyway before you start a new thread you could have used the search, which I'm sure would have turned up plenty about APAN and or ANNM.
tomu
April 16th, 2005, 02:15 PM
What do you exactly mean by the attribute "stronger"?
I can imagine that will produce more hot gases, VOD might possibly go down compared to pure AP.
One or two gramms seems a little low for a booster charge.
Anyway before you start a new thread you could have used the search, which I'm sure would have turned up plenty about APAN and or ANNM.
tomu
April 16th, 2005, 02:15 PM
What do you exactly mean by the attribute "stronger"?
I can imagine that will produce more hot gases, VOD might possibly go down compared to pure AP.
One or two gramms seems a little low for a booster charge.
Anyway before you start a new thread you could have used the search, which I'm sure would have turned up plenty about APAN and or ANNM.
nuclearattack
April 24th, 2005, 07:37 AM
In my opinion 1:5 AP\AN ratio is too low...you should increase AP ratio or the mixture will be too unsensitive and with a low vod, generally a flame sensitive APAN has a 50\50 ratio...you can try with 3:5 ratio for a safer cap. Anyway it isn't very safe to press a mixture of APAN...i don't like AP cristals frictioning with AN particles.
For my compound caps i prefer smokeless powder instead of AN...it's a good way for me to have a fast and strong cap...i use this mixture with success and you need a few of AP because NC is sensitive.
nuclearattack
April 24th, 2005, 07:37 AM
In my opinion 1:5 AP\AN ratio is too low...you should increase AP ratio or the mixture will be too unsensitive and with a low vod, generally a flame sensitive APAN has a 50\50 ratio...you can try with 3:5 ratio for a safer cap. Anyway it isn't very safe to press a mixture of APAN...i don't like AP cristals frictioning with AN particles.
For my compound caps i prefer smokeless powder instead of AN...it's a good way for me to have a fast and strong cap...i use this mixture with success and you need a few of AP because NC is sensitive.
nuclearattack
April 24th, 2005, 07:37 AM
In my opinion 1:5 AP\AN ratio is too low...you should increase AP ratio or the mixture will be too unsensitive and with a low vod, generally a flame sensitive APAN has a 50\50 ratio...you can try with 3:5 ratio for a safer cap. Anyway it isn't very safe to press a mixture of APAN...i don't like AP cristals frictioning with AN particles.
For my compound caps i prefer smokeless powder instead of AN...it's a good way for me to have a fast and strong cap...i use this mixture with success and you need a few of AP because NC is sensitive.
malzraa
April 25th, 2005, 12:04 AM
God damn it. Do you think EOD's speak to each other through "LOL" znd "plzzzz". How about chemists? Physicists? If you answered no to these questions, you are right. We are chemists, and physicists, and all scientists. Science entails communication, so learn how to do that before you try and move in.
malzraa
April 25th, 2005, 12:04 AM
God damn it. Do you think EOD's speak to each other through "LOL" znd "plzzzz". How about chemists? Physicists? If you answered no to these questions, you are right. We are chemists, and physicists, and all scientists. Science entails communication, so learn how to do that before you try and move in.
malzraa
April 25th, 2005, 12:04 AM
God damn it. Do you think EOD's speak to each other through "LOL" znd "plzzzz". How about chemists? Physicists? If you answered no to these questions, you are right. We are chemists, and physicists, and all scientists. Science entails communication, so learn how to do that before you try and move in.
Silentnite
April 25th, 2005, 01:24 AM
I'll quote myself, since its relevant, and I'm pretty much only good for one clear concise thought in a month...
Since this is chemistry, and most if not all of the factors involved can be adjusted or done differently, it's a personal science. ...... So our experiances, while helpful, are only a starting point, and experiance is only learned firsthand.
Which basically means, you could have tried it first, and then posted your results if it panned out.
Stronger how exactly? AP may do one thing, while a mixture of APAN will have a slightly different effect. Next your going to ask about Flash and BP.... :o
Silentnite
April 25th, 2005, 01:24 AM
I'll quote myself, since its relevant, and I'm pretty much only good for one clear concise thought in a month...
Since this is chemistry, and most if not all of the factors involved can be adjusted or done differently, it's a personal science. ...... So our experiances, while helpful, are only a starting point, and experiance is only learned firsthand.
Which basically means, you could have tried it first, and then posted your results if it panned out.
Stronger how exactly? AP may do one thing, while a mixture of APAN will have a slightly different effect. Next your going to ask about Flash and BP.... :o
Silentnite
April 25th, 2005, 01:24 AM
I'll quote myself, since its relevant, and I'm pretty much only good for one clear concise thought in a month...
Since this is chemistry, and most if not all of the factors involved can be adjusted or done differently, it's a personal science. ...... So our experiances, while helpful, are only a starting point, and experiance is only learned firsthand.
Which basically means, you could have tried it first, and then posted your results if it panned out.
Stronger how exactly? AP may do one thing, while a mixture of APAN will have a slightly different effect. Next your going to ask about Flash and BP.... :o
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