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zaibatsu
October 13th, 2002, 09:24 AM
Mick
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posted December 06, 2000 02:12 AM
the first time i made AP, i cut the ratios down so i could see what AP was meant to look like....basicly, it was just a test run
i made some AP up yesterday with the following method:
60ml or H2O2 -10%
48ml of Acetone - 99%
20ml of HCI - 32%

because my H202 is only 10% i thought i would add 70ml.(the mixture was meant for 30%)
today i filtered it
and this is what i find wierd, i have about 8 heaped table spoons of AP
now, this is only my second go at AP, so has something screwed up? should i have this much AP from such a small mixture?
the first time i made AP, i got a fairly small ammount of AP, and i came out as a paste like substance, not really crystals
this batch has come out like a crystal paste...you can see tiny tiny little crystal in it, but its very pasty...
i might go take a piccie so you can see what i'm takin about...

Cricket
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posted December 08, 2000 10:40 PM
I dont know how much their should be, but here is what happens when I make mine.

60ml 27% H2O2
48ml 100% Acetone
20ml 31.45% HCl

Put the H2O2 in a wine glass in the freezer and watch TV for a while or get a large bowl and fill it with ice water, but dont let it freeze (I know the 3% will, but I dont know about the 27%). It should be about as cold as ice water (dont poke your finger in there to test the temp, go by time). Put the reaction container in the ice bath (its ok if it floats, just dont let no water in). Add the Acetone. Then add about 10-15 ml HCl and stir for 30 seconds. Make a sandwich and eat it (wash your hands first). Add 15-20ml acid, stir agian, eat another sandwich. Add the rest of the acid and stir one more time. Wait about a hour or if you are all out of AP, 30 minutes. T-shirt filter it (after I fiter it in a shirt I like to squeze it in my hand and get the rest of the juice out). Wash it with Sodium Bicarbonate. Then let it dry for a while (the drying time changes from person to person, I dry it for 2 days or so inside). Then sell it, burn it, or blow it up, but dont store it for more than a month. I havent stored it for more than about 4-5 days.

Do you see any major differances between my process and yours? Hope this helpes.

IronWarlock
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posted January 10, 2001 02:24 AM
you using a plastic bottle or glass jar?

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Rhadon
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posted January 10, 2001 10:32 AM
When I make AP with 30% H2O2 it also looks like paste. When you dry it (I simply put it onto a thick paperboard and let it stand for a while) it'll look more like crystals.
A glass jar is better than plastic but I don't think that the plastic that is dissolved a bit by the acetone will disturb the reaction (although I'm not 100% sure about this).

Motox31
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From: Topeka,ks,USA
Registered: JAN 2001
posted January 16, 2001 07:00 PM
Hey Cricket I was wondering where you got your 27$ h2o2 at. So far I have only found 3% h2o2 and that was at a walgreens.

ALENGOSVIG1
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posted January 16, 2001 07:47 PM
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