Pentaerythritol? I've got everything i need to make PETN, bar this. I looked at megas site but i dont know what paraformaldehyde is either. All i know is that it's apparently found in paint stores, but for what? Google was no help here, neither was a search, so anyone care to enlighten me?

There was a very large topic on the making of it, i'm sure if you do a search for Pentaerythritol youll find something here.

All I found were two arguments.

One about what units to use when on the site, and two, about whether or not a PE supplier in Australia was a cop or not. Sadly, thats no use. The most relevant thing i found with reference to obtaining PE was it being stressed in the threads of how hard it is to get. So the question remains...

paraformadehyde i believe is a polymer of formaldehyde
(HCHO)n where n is greater than 6
it is made by evaporating an aqueous solution of formaldehyde (formalin). it is the white residue.
armed with this knoledge you should be able to go forth and PETNise

Thanks, I saw formaldehyde as household toilet claner on a US site, anyone know if this is also the case in the UK?

have a look for farm suppliers. they use it to disinfect sheep feet i think.

formaldehyde is used a lot in taxidermy (the preservation of dead animals)

http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/prep.asp?prep=cv1p0425

Detailed synth with pics of apparatus ect ect, very detailed.

We were also discussing a while ago about using Metaldehyde (from slug pellets) instead of using Acetaldehyde (hard to obtain). Did anyone have any success with this?

EDIT- I can remember reading that hexamine can be hydrolized into Ammonia and Formaldehyde. Anyone know more about this?

I looked into metaldehyde, in fact I STILL haven't got round to sorting this (http://www.boomspeed.com/mrcool/PE.jpg) out. I'm sure I've given details of what's in here somewhere on this Forum, search for posts by me containing the words "slug clear."

Anyway, the best metaldehyde source that I've found OTC is "Slug Clear," it's in a liquid form (seems to be an emulsion), and is 20% metaldehyde. I used it as-is in my experiment, but perhaps you could depolymerise it first into acetaldehyde, and then use that.
I've never seen a slug pellet that's over about 3% metaldehyde, although I have heard rumours that 100% ones exist, in some countries at least. Extracting 3% would be a pain in the arse, since the pellets would be so bulky for a decent amount of metaldehyde, and you'd need an absolutely fucking huge amount of solvent to get it out.

So, yeah, I really should find out if that little experiment of mine worked... I'll test a little bit now.

So what were your results?

Sonny Jim,

you could always do what i did a few hours ago and fuck up a HDN experiment. as Mongo Blongo mentioned, Hexamine and nitric acid mixed in a "too wet" solution will decompose into formaldayde and ammonia. the formaldayde comes off as a gas that will burn eyes and nose after about a second or 2 of exposure (nasty stuff!).
i supose if you have such chems in bulk and didn`t mind using a little that you could bypass the RDX or HDN stage and let it decompose then distil your gas through water to make your formalin?
veiw this post as a backup plan and not as a "Good Way" to make it.
personaly it`s a waste of good chems in my opinion, but it does work.

all the best :)

Thanks YT2095. It never hurts to know alternative ways of making stuff.

I just noticed that forlamlehyde is present in 'Tetra Fin' goldfish disease treatment. It doesn't say how much or what else is there, but still....

Anyone also spotted this and done something with it?

Look here:

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/BODY_VM061

yt2095, 'the formaldayde comes off as a gas that will burn eyes and nose'

don't forget its carcinogenic too :O

better to try and reduce exposure to a minimum to avoid long term side effects.

look here:

do you see what I see?
this isnt even my best source.
www.exploratoriumstore.com/outrageousooze.html (http://www.exploratoriumstore.com/outrageousooze.html)

Hmm I wonder how much you get in one of those kits? I'm not going to order it to find out, as I am still half expecting a visit from the local Explosives and Arsenic division;). I would imagine that even a small amount might be worth it, as it is not TOO expensive, but I doubt you will be getting anything more than a couple grams from it. I dont know how much you would normally pay for PE but i know that it is quite difficult to synthesize, so if youve got lots of cash... Have you ever ordered that? And if so how much was in it?

Your right only a few grams, but it beats trying to make it(if your cash rich&knowledge poor.I have a better source than that.I just happened on it while googleing.I admire your bravery with the NG work,I have a family and cant,wont pursue it.
more than anything I wanted to show the newbies that EVERYTHING is out there its just a matter of time and determination.
case in point:http://members.tripod.com/~bc05/chemkit.html
you ever seen this
personally I think its a little expensive,but...

"Just an information for the guys who can't find pentaerythritol, there is a laxative medicine called Auxitrans 5g witch is sell in france without medical prescription and it contain 5g of PURE Pentaerythritol"

This (http://roguesci.org/theforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104&perpage=50&highlight=laxative&pagenumber=9) thread.

Everything can be found.

Right! I is off to France with some serious constipation problems see you when I gets back.:D