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June 17th, 2003, 08:21 PM
Jumala
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posted 06-19-2001 08:55 PM
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I donīt know if it is the correct english term. I have read in an old patent about this HE and Iīm interested to know more.
It shall be a little less sensitive than PETN
and it has a little higher brisance.
enneaheptite alcohol ( original name in the patent is Anhydroenneaheptite) is made from formaldehyde and aceton. The nitration is done by mixed acid.
Has anyone heared about this stuff?
wantsomfet
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posted 06-20-2001 07:28 AM
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The pentanitrate of anhydroenneaheptite hasn't proved to be very usefull, although you're right in saying it has a greater brisance than PETN and is less sensible, the yield of the alcohol production is very low. Acetone & Formaldehyde form mostly polymers like CH2=CHCOCH3.
I'll mail you the whole text.
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Mr Cool
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posted 06-20-2001 08:07 AM
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Could you please send it to me as well?
Thanks.
PHILOU Zrealone
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posted 06-21-2001 09:00 AM
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Formol has the hability to add itself to various activated hydrogenated carbon... thus in alfa of a ceto group a nitro group!
Basically thus
1)CH3-CO-CH3 + OCH2 --> CH3-CO-CH=CH2 + H2O
And then partially CH3-CO-CH2-CH2OH after water addition and a little polymerisation.
The beta cetoalcool is now more activated than the first aceton and can capt two more CH2O what is in exces in the process:
CH3-CO-CH2-CH2OH + 2CH2O --> CH3-CO-C(CH2OH)3
The other side can do the same after a long time of reaction to lead to (HOCH2)3C-CO-C(CH2OH)3 an hexol containing 7 carbon is thus synthetised.
This hexol can be hexanitrated to lead to a brother of PETN!
2)CH3-NO2 + CH2O --> CH2=CH2-NO2 + H2O
Polynitrovinyle can be made from that monomer (nitrovinyle) here again following experimental conditions you get the alcool
HO-CH2-CH2-NO2 that reacts further to (HO-CH2)2CH-NO2 and finally to (HO-CH2)3C-NO2.
This last one can be nitrated to another PETN brother with a higher power, about the same sensitivity!
Enjoy the discovery of the nearly infinite world of organic chemical reactions.....
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Posts: 200
From: Germany
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posted 06-19-2001 08:55 PM
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I donīt know if it is the correct english term. I have read in an old patent about this HE and Iīm interested to know more.
It shall be a little less sensitive than PETN
and it has a little higher brisance.
enneaheptite alcohol ( original name in the patent is Anhydroenneaheptite) is made from formaldehyde and aceton. The nitration is done by mixed acid.
Has anyone heared about this stuff?
wantsomfet
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Posts: 236
From: EU
Registered: JAN 2001
posted 06-20-2001 07:28 AM
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The pentanitrate of anhydroenneaheptite hasn't proved to be very usefull, although you're right in saying it has a greater brisance than PETN and is less sensible, the yield of the alcohol production is very low. Acetone & Formaldehyde form mostly polymers like CH2=CHCOCH3.
I'll mail you the whole text.
------------------
for best catfood visit:
kangaroooo.cjb.net
[This message has been edited by wantsomfet (edited June 20, 2001).]
Mr Cool
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Posts: 991
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posted 06-20-2001 08:07 AM
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Could you please send it to me as well?
Thanks.
PHILOU Zrealone
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Posts: 479
From: Brussels,Belgium,Europe
Registered: SEP 2000
posted 06-21-2001 09:00 AM
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Formol has the hability to add itself to various activated hydrogenated carbon... thus in alfa of a ceto group a nitro group!
Basically thus
1)CH3-CO-CH3 + OCH2 --> CH3-CO-CH=CH2 + H2O
And then partially CH3-CO-CH2-CH2OH after water addition and a little polymerisation.
The beta cetoalcool is now more activated than the first aceton and can capt two more CH2O what is in exces in the process:
CH3-CO-CH2-CH2OH + 2CH2O --> CH3-CO-C(CH2OH)3
The other side can do the same after a long time of reaction to lead to (HOCH2)3C-CO-C(CH2OH)3 an hexol containing 7 carbon is thus synthetised.
This hexol can be hexanitrated to lead to a brother of PETN!
2)CH3-NO2 + CH2O --> CH2=CH2-NO2 + H2O
Polynitrovinyle can be made from that monomer (nitrovinyle) here again following experimental conditions you get the alcool
HO-CH2-CH2-NO2 that reacts further to (HO-CH2)2CH-NO2 and finally to (HO-CH2)3C-NO2.
This last one can be nitrated to another PETN brother with a higher power, about the same sensitivity!
Enjoy the discovery of the nearly infinite world of organic chemical reactions.....