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aster
April 18th, 2003, 02:50 PM
hello all, can anyone tell me, if i fill my car gas tank with nitrated petrol like nitrated gasoline or nitrated kerosene then will this make me win the race like the motorbikeracer fill their gas tank with nitromethane? or just make a huge fireball and kaboom when i turn the engine on? thanks a lot:)

rooster
April 18th, 2003, 03:15 PM
The best thing nitrated petrol will do to your gas tank is destroy it, since its a solid most of the times, unless it dissolves in the petrol. Most likely it will blow the whole thing. But you are welcome to try it:)

mongo blongo
April 18th, 2003, 03:21 PM
Well it is an explosive so that would be a very bad idea unless you want the car to explode. There is not much info on this explosive but it can be a solid as well as a liquid. I don't even know if it is a primary or secondary or even a HE or not. If however it needs to be detonated then it might just burn like NG for example.

megalomania
April 18th, 2003, 03:57 PM
I am not so sure using nitrated petroleum would be such a bad idea. Of course it would destroy your engine if you do not make the necessary modifications for significently higher octane fuels. Small quantities may enhance an engine in the same way as octane booster additives.

I would try this out on an disposable moter like an old lawn mower or weed-wacker before pouring in in your cars gas tank.

Naturally a high explosive may indeed cause extensive destruction inside the cylinder or to the spark plug area where the combustion occures because of too much energy, and the nitrated petroleum fuel may not vaporize well enough to support combustion, thus clogging the fuel filter or injector.

I would suspect the reason companies don't test nitrated fuels is because of the cost of nitrated petroleum. If they ever tried it there is probably some vague obscure literature from the fifties out there.

xyz
April 18th, 2003, 07:43 PM
Be careful with this, I have read something about racing fuel NM having desensitizers added to it because before they started doing this, it could occasionally DDT (Deflagration to Detonation Transition) inside the engine.

aster
April 19th, 2003, 11:09 AM
i can get technical NM 1 litre at $90, i dont know about the price of NM for motor racing, but it must be cheaper than this technical grade, i think its right this racing NM will be present with some impurities, and possibly the desensitizer:) i think its right we must added another desensitizer before try to pouring this explosives in our gas tank what chemicals can act as desensitizer? maybe this is the trade secret:D

knowledgehungry
April 19th, 2003, 11:24 AM
1 Liter 90$! Where the fuck did you buy that, you can get it at pyrotek for like 40$ a liter.

aster
April 19th, 2003, 11:54 AM
:) thanks, i get this stuff prices from lab and chem suply store, near my reside of course, but i am not buy this yet ;)

kingspaz
April 19th, 2003, 07:47 PM
they don't fuel the cars on pure NM do they? i just thought they mixed it with petrol. 50/50 maybe?
the petrol should desensitise it enough and also help to limit burn speed so as not to destroy the engine as quickly.
anyway, this is in the HE section so we should be talking about nitrated petrol and its use as an explosive.

Anthony
April 19th, 2003, 07:56 PM
IIRC they do use straight NM in top fuel dragsters.

First of all, why nitrated petroleum? I doubt it'll have a much greater energy density than NM, plus the problem of it not being liquid.

The question is, will it burn and release more energy than regular petrol?

It's HE properties are useless, since not only will detonation destroy the engine, it's not good for propulsion.

As kingspaz pointed out, this probably shouldn't be in HE, so it'll find a new home in water cooler :)