Talk:Nera (3.5e NPC)

Review

• Most deities are outsiders. Any particular reason you chose humanoid?
• Humanoids use a d8 for their Hit Die, not a d6.
• What are the 20d10 HD from? Fighter? Paladin? A prestige class?
• It's a lesser deity, but what exactly is it's divine rank? Going by the salient abilities, I'm guessing 6.
• DR for a lesser deity is 20/epic, not 15/epic.
• A 40-HD creature has 14 feats. Nera is short three.

—Sledged (talk) 13:28, 1 May 2007 (MDT)

No particular reason, other than her story, but she doesn't have 20 levels of outsider. I should perhaps explain a little more on her story. Also, she has 20 levels of Swashbuckler, and 20 levels of Truenamer and is of a race with LA0. Actually, she is DR-5. (1 Bonus Salient Ability for statuss and 5 mor for Divine Rank.) I messed up a little ^^' she is a demigod... And as for feats, my bad again ^^' Thanks for your review! ^^

--Seraphim Rush 23:49, 1 May 2007 (MDT)

In what order did she take levels of swashbuckler an truenamer? The order affects base saves and base attack. Actually, the better question is how many levels of each did she have when she was a 20th-level character? Is her race one of the many cat-people races on the wiki? If not, is it a published race (either in a sourcebook, or on the web)? Also, you're still short at least one feat; Weapon Finesse is a swashbuckler bonus feat. —Sledged (talk) 10:37, 2 May 2007 (MDT)

20 levels swashbuckler, then 20 levels truenamer, I realize these things. I know weapon finesse is a bonus feat, and she was originally from one of the articles on the D&D forums, now she is one of the races on the Wiki (I think). I don't know where the feat void is, but I am sure that I probably forgot one of the pre-feats to one of them... --Seraphim Rush 17:46, 2 May 2007 (MDT)

What I meant was is that I didn't know about the swashbuckler and truenamer levels when I stated that Nera was short three feats. She should have 14 feats plus any bonus feats due to class (Weapon Finesse, Truename Research, and recitation feats) and race. Here are all the feline races. —Sledged (talk) 21:28, 2 May 2007 (MDT)

I am getting there I suppose... How does she look now?--Seraphim Rush 19:42, 3 May 2007 (MDT)

Better. A few more items:

• Does she have any special abilities due to race?
• What domains does Nera grant?
• Nera needs her deity page fleshed out.
• What skills has Nera chosen for her knowledge focus ability?
• Nera's BAB/EAB is off: +20 swashbuckler +10 twenty epic levels = +30

—Sledged (talk) 22:23, 13 May 2007 (MDT)

Alrighty the reason I did the attack bonus is due to her Divine Rank, in which they get to add to their attack. Domains and Diety Page... I'll get to that when I can. Knowledge focus 2 Planes and 2 Arcana. Special are being added ^^ --Seraphim Rush 00:10, 14 May 2007 (MDT)

I see. The "Base Atk" entry is just supposed to be the attack bonus due to HD; no divine bonuses, no enhancement bonuses, no Str/Dex bonuses, no size bonuses, etc. Just BAB and EAB.

Based on the courtblade attack bonus, I'm figuring Arc is a +10 weapon; +58 = +20 BAB, +10 EAB, +5 divine, +8 Dex, +1 Weapon Focus, +4 Divine Weapon Focus +x enhancement = +48 +x enhancement; x = 10. So I figure the damage bonus to be (+10 2-handed Str +10 enhancement +5 Divine Weapon Specialization) +25, but it's listed as +30. Where does the extra +5 come from?

Lastly, Deflect Arrows is useless to Nera, because she doesn't have a free hand. —Sledged (talk) 09:37, 14 May 2007 (MDT)

Even so, it adds flavor to her character. I missed something, but you are right about the damage... --Seraphim Rush 15:50, 16 May 2007 (MDT)

Going by the selection of salient divine abilities, it looks as though Nera grants the War domain. And if that's the case, by the rules for domain powers, it seems that Nera would gain Weapon Focus (elven courtblade) as a bonus feat. —Sledged (talk) 16:23, 16 May 2007 (MDT)

Does Nera carry any other equipment other than Arc? And is Arc an intelligent item? —Sledged (talk) 16:33, 16 May 2007 (MDT)

Nera doesn't carry any other weapons, and Arc is not an intelligent item.--Seraphim Rush 19:19, 17 May 2007 (MDT)

Insightful strike, that's what's missing. +8 to damage from Int.

You could make Arc a Medium weapon instead. Wield Oversized Weapon will allow her to treat it as a Small 2-handed weapon, and she could wield it in one hand (albeit with a −2 attack penalty). —Sledged (talk) 14:42, 18 May 2007 (MDT)

Now for the skills. I don't know what her starting Int was, nor at what levels her Int increased (much less by how much), so I can only guess at the number of skill points she's supposed to have. In the comments (viewable just above this message, but only in the "edit" view), I did a breakdown of how many ranks she has in each skill, based on the modifiers. Also, I listed how many skill points she's invested in the ones that are cross-class for both swashbuckler and truenamer. The only skill that had an obvious error was Swim. Without any ranks Swim should have a modifier of +20 (+7 Str, +5 divine, +8 swim speed). —Sledged (talk) 14:16, 20 May 2007 (MDT)

I see... I didn't give her any ranks in swim, and I had no clue about swim speed... and I simply didn't add the divine.

The skills should all add up, without divine, or odd things like swim speed... --Seraphim Rush 23:25, 20 May 2007 (MDT)

What about the modifiers from Divine Skill Focus, synergy, and knowledge focus? Do the values only take ranks and the ability score modifiers into account? —Sledged (talk) 09:09, 21 May 2007 (MDT)

Okay, ran the numbers again after adding the divine bonus and climb and swim speed bonuses (see above in edit view). Don't know about Divine Skill Focus and knowledge focus, but it looks like you took synergy into account, especially given that many of them come out to 25 ranks; just enough ranks to double up on the synergy bonus. I also calculated max possible skill points (assuming she started with an Int 26 at 1st level). —Sledged (talk) 19:55, 23 May 2007 (MDT)

It's been a while since I have been here last. However, I am pretty sure when I was making her I went level by level for skill points, and thus all of the bonuses are added in already, including her divin skill focus, knowledge focus and such. Thank you very much for running those numbers, I think I can use them, just subtract a few from some of the skills and then I should be good to go right? --Seraphim Rush 02:48, 30 June 2007 (MDT)

Yes, that should do the trick. Domains need to be assigned, too, so the spell-like abilities can be fleshed out. —Sledged (talk) 13:46, 11 September 2007 (MDT)